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Throwing...Aubrey (10, dstr21, hearing impaired, PDDNOS diagnosed in May of this

year) throws like there's no tomorrow. She didn't throw when she was younger,

but started over the past two years or so when we started really noticing the

unusual sensory behaviors...

I'm wondering if it's a sensory thing, discovering " cause and effect, or

a compulsive need for the visual stim?!?!?! She especially loves to throw things

as far as she can, in corners, across the room etc...She does understand that if

something is thrown hard enough it can hurt you. It seems it also may be a way

of her expressing herself-frustration?

Scary stuff, but very rare when she throws something with the intent to hurt.

Example...we have had a very problematic neighbor renting a unit above the

townhome we own. Our family is an easy target...single mom, two young

daughters...One of the many problems we had with upstairs tenant was his having

his children running back and forth across their living room all day long

especially on weekends...way too much " stim " for Aubrey sitting right below

it...one rainy Sunday afternoon, my normally very loving child punched her older

sister smack in the face after a long day of pounding above her head...my older

daughter and I were shocked! That incident was the last straw for me and was the

impetus for me to have the courage to take action against this tenant(s) once

and for all.

Thankfully, tenant(s) got evicted in mid-October. That night he made sure to

come out of his unit, stand behind my car and " stare us down " yet again as we

came out of our car...(we had a temporary restraining order on him when he would

verbally harass us after I decided to finally take a stand and started filing

incident reports with our association-that a judge eventually sadly dismissed.)

After we filed police report that night (for documentation purposes as

instructed by prior officers) this tenant started jumping and pounding on his

floor with such rage that it was terrifying. Aubrey threw a large lint roller

" brush " right at my face. Double whammy for Mommy!

In this case, I believe she was trying to express her fear and frustration with

the neighbor. When I walked over to her, (I was really scared, too but can

verbally express my fear) I asked her if she was afraid because of the loud

noise. (Remember Aubrey is mild to moderately hearing impaired so that tells you

how loud this noise is.) She signed " afraid " and then started to cry.

I just sat there with her on the floor, and held her while she cried for a long

time. When she appeared to feel better, I signed/talked to her (I don't know how

much she really understands but I will respect her need to know and share

everything with her in the simplest way I know how...)

about how " Aubrey OK?...man upstairs going away " (we now are counting down the

days together-9 days left-good math lesson-good for the psychi ;) and

then...that she cannot throw things at Mommy and how she hurt me...She signed

" sorry " and then she went on with her play.

Her throwing is a behavior addressed in her BSP at school, and as far as I know,

she doesn't dare throw in school anymore or recess gets taken away from her.

Thankfully, she hasn't thrown in a restaurant etc yet...BUT I always worry about

the potential with big songbooks in church. YIKES!

Aubrey can go into a closet to play hide and seek and throw things out of it in

less than 5 minutes if not monitored every second. Imagine if you couldn't put

everything back into that closet right away?!

This is a behavior one wants to redirect soon or house will look like

mine-remember that Warner Brother's " Taz " character...yup, she can " whirl " , too

and QUICK!

At home, this is one of the most frustrating parts about being a single parent.

I could use another body around the house with her, just to monitor this

behavior. I try as hard as I can NOT to give her the BIG REACTION I used to when

she would throw something and calmly redirect her behavior. She HAS to put away

toys, objects, especially those she throws...Thankfully, she truly has improved

a lot with maturity.

Praying one day, we can say goodbye to " Taz-like " behaviors once and for all-and

hello to an orderly house!

Desi

ps in court hearing, the tenant had no attorney and so HE had the opportunity to

question me after my testimony. His last question to me was-

" Are you a bitter old woman who is upset with the cosmos for giving you a child

with Down Syndrome and Autism and is taking it out on me? "

I could have thrown EVERYTHING in sight at him at that moment. Instead, I just

cried on the stand. (Until they walk our shoes, huh?!)

Thank God for recesses.

Subject: Re: throwing

To:

Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 2:26 PM

Hi ,

My 4 1/2 yr old son's goal at pre-school is to " reduce his throwing " -

I like the honesty of it because it admits that he really throws a lot

and likely won't get down to no throwing in the near future. At first

his pre-school teachers would say " stop " and then he had to help clean

up all the puzzle pieces etc, but he likes to clean up. Lately though

his throwing was reduced after his OT suggested starting a " sensory

diet " so now they turn out the lights in one corner of the room and he

has a couch there inside a little tent and its all sort of hidden

behind a bookshelf and he can take a book (somehtnig he likes a lot)

and go inside and a teacher goes in and reads to him, also they put a

netted sort of ball play area in another corner which gives him nice

sensory input. They also duct tape down the boxes of small throwables

like lego (it slows him down so they can get there before the box is

thrown). so since they rearragned the room he seems less overwhelmed

and less frustrated and he throws a bit less. The teachers also

started taking him out of the room for 15 minutes every hour or so and

he goes to a quiet little room with nothing on the walls and they take

one toy and teach him how to play with it. They are much more patient

than I am!

Did I mention how great his teachers are?

I have to say that at home we just have to remove anything we don't

want thrown. Leaving something on the couch or coffee table is asking

for trouble. And we just don't go to restaurants with him much at all.

Hope this is helpful,

>

> Hi all,

> now this might sound like a really stipid question, but I'd be grateful

> for any ideas.

> Do any of you have problems with your children throwing things? At home

> we're used to Rebekah hurling and smashing anything she can get hold

> of. Today we went out to a quiet family pub, no crowds or noise and

> plenty of food(Rebekah' s favourite hobby) usually we don't have too

> many problems but today was horrendous. We cleared the table(as usual)

> of anything within her reach, but her speed meant she still managed to

> spill 2 drinks and throw 2 plates-even with my husband and I holding

> one of her hands each! Also she has begun spitting at people- a habit

> which has just developed out of the blue.

> Any ideas on what has started to cause these problems or how to tackle

> them would be gratefully received. Rebekah has only just received a

> diagnosis after a 3 and a half year battle so I am new to a lot of

> typical problems and possible solutions.

> -mum to Rebekah 7 DS/ASDand Leah 8

>

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Sorry group, been away for awhile and just reading posts.  Noah was in the

hospital for a round of iv antibiotics.  Everything ok so far.  I was reading

these posts about throwing and that is my Noah.  One of our friends lovingly

calls him Taz, so it was funny that it was mentioned.  As far as that tenant,

WHAT A JERK!!!  Leilani

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Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:09:50 AM

Subject: Re: Re: throwing-frustration?

Throwing...Aubrey (10, dstr21, hearing impaired, PDDNOS diagnosed in May of this

year) throws like there's no tomorrow. She didn't throw when she was younger,

but started over the past two years or so when we started really noticing the

unusual sensory behaviors...

I'm wondering if it's a sensory thing, discovering " cause and effect, or

a compulsive need for the visual stim?!?!?! She especially loves to throw things

as far as she can, in corners, across the room etc...She does understand that if

something is thrown hard enough it can hurt you. It seems it also may be a way

of her expressing herself-frustration ?

Scary stuff, but very rare when she throws something with the intent to hurt.

Example...we have had a very problematic neighbor renting a unit above the

townhome we own. Our family is an easy target...single mom, two young

daughters... One of the many problems we had with upstairs tenant was his having

his children running back and forth across their living room all day long

especially on weekends...way too much " stim " for Aubrey sitting right below

it...one rainy Sunday afternoon, my normally very loving child punched her older

sister smack in the face after a long day of pounding above her head...my older

daughter and I were shocked! That incident was the last straw for me and was the

impetus for me to have the courage to take action against this tenant(s) once

and for all.

Thankfully, tenant(s) got evicted in mid-October. That night he made sure to

come out of his unit, stand behind my car and " stare us down " yet again as we

came out of our car...(we had a temporary restraining order on him when he would

verbally harass us after I decided to finally take a stand and started filing

incident reports with our association- that a judge eventually sadly dismissed.)

After we filed police report that night (for documentation purposes as

instructed by prior officers) this tenant started jumping and pounding on his

floor with such rage that it was terrifying. Aubrey threw a large lint roller

" brush " right at my face. Double whammy for Mommy!

In this case, I believe she was trying to express her fear and frustration with

the neighbor. When I walked over to her, (I was really scared, too but can

verbally express my fear) I asked her if she was afraid because of the loud

noise. (Remember Aubrey is mild to moderately hearing impaired so that tells you

how loud this noise is.) She signed " afraid " and then started to cry.

I just sat there with her on the floor, and held her while she cried for a long

time. When she appeared to feel better, I signed/talked to her (I don't know how

much she really understands but I will respect her need to know and share

everything with her in the simplest way I know how...)

about how " Aubrey OK?...man upstairs going away " (we now are counting down the

days together-9 days left-good math lesson-good for the psychi ;) and

then...that she cannot throw things at Mommy and how she hurt me...She signed

" sorry " and then she went on with her play.

Her throwing is a behavior addressed in her BSP at school, and as far as I know,

she doesn't dare throw in school anymore or recess gets taken away from her.

Thankfully, she hasn't thrown in a restaurant etc yet...BUT I always worry about

the potential with big songbooks in church. YIKES!

Aubrey can go into a closet to play hide and seek and throw things out of it in

less than 5 minutes if not monitored every second. Imagine if you couldn't put

everything back into that closet right away?!

This is a behavior one wants to redirect soon or house will look like

mine-remember that Warner Brother's " Taz " character... yup, she can " whirl " , too

and QUICK!

At home, this is one of the most frustrating parts about being a single parent.

I could use another body around the house with her, just to monitor this

behavior. I try as hard as I can NOT to give her the BIG REACTION I used to when

she would throw something and calmly redirect her behavior. She HAS to put away

toys, objects, especially those she throws...Thankfully , she truly has improved

a lot with maturity.

Praying one day, we can say goodbye to " Taz-like " behaviors once and for all-and

hello to an orderly house!

Desi

ps in court hearing, the tenant had no attorney and so HE had the opportunity to

question me after my testimony. His last question to me was-

" Are you a bitter old woman who is upset with the cosmos for giving you a child

with Down Syndrome and Autism and is taking it out on me? "

I could have thrown EVERYTHING in sight at him at that moment. Instead, I just

cried on the stand. (Until they walk our shoes, huh?!)

Thank God for recesses.

From: cathynash19 <cathynashshaw (DOT) ca>

Subject: Re: throwing

To: @yahoogrou ps.com

Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 2:26 PM

Hi ,

My 4 1/2 yr old son's goal at pre-school is to " reduce his throwing " -

I like the honesty of it because it admits that he really throws a lot

and likely won't get down to no throwing in the near future. At first

his pre-school teachers would say " stop " and then he had to help clean

up all the puzzle pieces etc, but he likes to clean up. Lately though

his throwing was reduced after his OT suggested starting a " sensory

diet " so now they turn out the lights in one corner of the room and he

has a couch there inside a little tent and its all sort of hidden

behind a bookshelf and he can take a book (somehtnig he likes a lot)

and go inside and a teacher goes in and reads to him, also they put a

netted sort of ball play area in another corner which gives him nice

sensory input. They also duct tape down the boxes of small throwables

like lego (it slows him down so they can get there before the box is

thrown). so since they rearragned the room he seems less overwhelmed

and less frustrated and he throws a bit less. The teachers also

started taking him out of the room for 15 minutes every hour or so and

he goes to a quiet little room with nothing on the walls and they take

one toy and teach him how to play with it. They are much more patient

than I am!

Did I mention how great his teachers are?

I have to say that at home we just have to remove anything we don't

want thrown. Leaving something on the couch or coffee table is asking

for trouble. And we just don't go to restaurants with him much at all.

Hope this is helpful,

>

> Hi all,

> now this might sound like a really stipid question, but I'd be grateful

> for any ideas.

> Do any of you have problems with your children throwing things? At home

> we're used to Rebekah hurling and smashing anything she can get hold

> of. Today we went out to a quiet family pub, no crowds or noise and

> plenty of food(Rebekah' s favourite hobby) usually we don't have too

> many problems but today was horrendous. We cleared the table(as usual)

> of anything within her reach, but her speed meant she still managed to

> spill 2 drinks and throw 2 plates-even with my husband and I holding

> one of her hands each! Also she has begun spitting at people- a habit

> which has just developed out of the blue.

> Any ideas on what has started to cause these problems or how to tackle

> them would be gratefully received. Rebekah has only just received a

> diagnosis after a 3 and a half year battle so I am new to a lot of

> typical problems and possible solutions.

> -mum to Rebekah 7 DS/ASDand Leah 8

>

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Desi, has always been a kid that throws things. I let him have

only soft things to play with and only one thing at a time. He has

got mad and thrown my tables into walls,etc. The older he gets the

less he does this. Are you making her pickup whatever she throws?

These kids do understand clean up clean up everybody everywhere. That

is so funny you call her TAZ because I have always called the

Tazmanin Devil. He even sounds like TAZ. Well at least we are not

living with the Exorcist. I could not stand it if 's head twirled

around. But now the body thing he does do that. I was an apartment

manager years ago and you have your work cut out for you.Glad you are

getting that demon out of the outstairs apartment. People can be

soooo weird and scarey. I hope you have a good Thanksgiving. God put

a hedge of protection around this family and keep them in your loving

tender care.Cyndi B

>

> Sorry group, been away for awhile and just reading posts.  Noah was

in the hospital for a round of iv antibiotics.  Everything ok so

far.  I was reading these posts about throwing and that is my Noah. 

One of our friends lovingly calls him Taz, so it was funny that it

was mentioned.  As far as that tenant, WHAT A JERK!!!  Leilani

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:09:50 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: throwing-frustration?

>

>

> Throwing...Aubrey (10, dstr21, hearing impaired, PDDNOS diagnosed

in May of this year) throws like there's no tomorrow. She didn't

throw when she was younger, but started over the past two years or so

when we started really noticing the unusual sensory behaviors...

>

> I'm wondering if it's a sensory thing, discovering " cause and

effect, or

> a compulsive need for the visual stim?!?!?! She especially loves to

throw things as far as she can, in corners, across the room etc...She

does understand that if something is thrown hard enough it can hurt

you. It seems it also may be a way of her expressing herself-

frustration ?

>

> Scary stuff, but very rare when she throws something with the

intent to hurt.

>

> Example...we have had a very problematic neighbor renting a unit

above the townhome we own. Our family is an easy target...single mom,

two young daughters... One of the many problems we had with upstairs

tenant was his having his children running back and forth across

their living room all day long especially on weekends...way too

much " stim " for Aubrey sitting right below it...one rainy Sunday

afternoon, my normally very loving child punched her older sister

smack in the face after a long day of pounding above her head...my

older daughter and I were shocked! That incident was the last straw

for me and was the impetus for me to have the courage to take action

against this tenant(s) once and for all.

>

> Thankfully, tenant(s) got evicted in mid-October. That night he

made sure to come out of his unit, stand behind my car and " stare us

down " yet again as we came out of our car...(we had a temporary

restraining order on him when he would verbally harass us after I

decided to finally take a stand and started filing incident reports

with our association- that a judge eventually sadly dismissed.)

>

> After we filed police report that night (for documentation purposes

as instructed by prior officers) this tenant started jumping and

pounding on his floor with such rage that it was terrifying. Aubrey

threw a large lint roller " brush " right at my face. Double whammy for

Mommy!

>

> In this case, I believe she was trying to express her fear and

frustration with the neighbor. When I walked over to her, (I was

really scared, too but can verbally express my fear) I asked her if

she was afraid because of the loud noise. (Remember Aubrey is mild to

moderately hearing impaired so that tells you how loud this noise

is.) She signed " afraid " and then started to cry.

>

> I just sat there with her on the floor, and held her while she

cried for a long time. When she appeared to feel better, I

signed/talked to her (I don't know how much she really understands

but I will respect her need to know and share everything with her in

the simplest way I know how...)

> about how " Aubrey OK?...man upstairs going away " (we now are

counting down the days together-9 days left-good math lesson-good for

the psychi ;) and then...that she cannot throw things at Mommy and

how she hurt me...She signed " sorry " and then she went on with her

play.

>

> Her throwing is a behavior addressed in her BSP at school, and as

far as I know, she doesn't dare throw in school anymore or recess

gets taken away from her. Thankfully, she hasn't thrown in a

restaurant etc yet...BUT I always worry about the potential with big

songbooks in church. YIKES!

>

> Aubrey can go into a closet to play hide and seek and throw things

out of it in less than 5 minutes if not monitored every second.

Imagine if you couldn't put everything back into that closet right

away?!

>

> This is a behavior one wants to redirect soon or house will look

like mine-remember that Warner Brother's " Taz " character... yup, she

can " whirl " , too and QUICK!

>

> At home, this is one of the most frustrating parts about being a

single parent. I could use another body around the house with her,

just to monitor this behavior. I try as hard as I can NOT to give her

the BIG REACTION I used to when she would throw something and calmly

redirect her behavior. She HAS to put away toys, objects, especially

those she throws...Thankfully , she truly has improved a lot with

maturity.

>

> Praying one day, we can say goodbye to " Taz-like " behaviors once

and for all-and hello to an orderly house!

>

> Desi

> ps in court hearing, the tenant had no attorney and so HE had the

opportunity to question me after my testimony. His last question to

me was-

> " Are you a bitter old woman who is upset with the cosmos for giving

you a child with Down Syndrome and Autism and is taking it out on me? "

>

> I could have thrown EVERYTHING in sight at him at that moment.

Instead, I just cried on the stand. (Until they walk our shoes, huh?!)

>

> Thank God for recesses.

>

>

>

> From: cathynash19 <cathynashshaw (DOT) ca>

> Subject: Re: throwing

> To: @yahoogrou ps.com

> Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 2:26 PM

>

> Hi ,

>

> My 4 1/2 yr old son's goal at pre-school is to " reduce his

throwing " -

> I like the honesty of it because it admits that he really throws a

lot

> and likely won't get down to no throwing in the near future. At

first

> his pre-school teachers would say " stop " and then he had to help

clean

> up all the puzzle pieces etc, but he likes to clean up. Lately

though

> his throwing was reduced after his OT suggested starting a " sensory

> diet " so now they turn out the lights in one corner of the room and

he

> has a couch there inside a little tent and its all sort of hidden

> behind a bookshelf and he can take a book (somehtnig he likes a lot)

> and go inside and a teacher goes in and reads to him, also they put

a

> netted sort of ball play area in another corner which gives him nice

> sensory input. They also duct tape down the boxes of small

throwables

> like lego (it slows him down so they can get there before the box is

> thrown). so since they rearragned the room he seems less overwhelmed

> and less frustrated and he throws a bit less. The teachers also

> started taking him out of the room for 15 minutes every hour or so

and

> he goes to a quiet little room with nothing on the walls and they

take

> one toy and teach him how to play with it. They are much more

patient

> than I am!

>

> Did I mention how great his teachers are?

>

> I have to say that at home we just have to remove anything we don't

> want thrown. Leaving something on the couch or coffee table is

asking

> for trouble. And we just don't go to restaurants with him much at

all.

>

> Hope this is helpful,

>

>

> >

> > Hi all,

> > now this might sound like a really stipid question, but I'd be

grateful

> > for any ideas.

> > Do any of you have problems with your children throwing things?

At home

> > we're used to Rebekah hurling and smashing anything she can get

hold

> > of. Today we went out to a quiet family pub, no crowds or noise

and

> > plenty of food(Rebekah' s favourite hobby) usually we don't have

too

> > many problems but today was horrendous. We cleared the table(as

usual)

> > of anything within her reach, but her speed meant she still

managed to

> > spill 2 drinks and throw 2 plates-even with my husband and I

holding

> > one of her hands each! Also she has begun spitting at people- a

habit

> > which has just developed out of the blue.

> > Any ideas on what has started to cause these problems or how to

tackle

> > them would be gratefully received. Rebekah has only just received

a

> > diagnosis after a 3 and a half year battle so I am new to a lot

of

> > typical problems and possible solutions.

> > -mum to Rebekah 7 DS/ASDand Leah 8

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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