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I have dropfoot on both legs and an inability to raise my toes more than 1 " .

The VA told me it was probably caused by my adult onset diabetes. Mine is

borderline so they are not treating it but I've had it a long time.

I have done exercises for years - calf raises, toe pull ups, and jumping on the

trampoline and mine haven't deteriorated for at least 5 years.

I used to drag my toes and fall occasionally but not for years now.

I do find that stationary jogging and trampoline work, as well as leg presses

make my ankles rigid and keeps them from flopping around and causing falls. I

do have 5 cats and they are always in the way but I've never stepped on them.

This is an interesting forum - I'd never heard of

Charcot-Marie-Tooth Disease

Before

Maybe all neurology problems have a common cause. I do take vitamin C on a

regular basis but rarely a mega dose.

I have a friend with muscular dystopy and he has a wife and son-in-law with MS

and they have similar symptoms.

Thanks

Hansen

CMT 1A: Results of Vitamin C trial in the UK

First clinical trial of Ascorbic Acid (Vit. C) for Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease

http://www.muscular-dystrophy.org/research/grants/completed_grants/2713_first_cl\

inical_trial_for_charcot-marie-tooth_disease

Project Leader: Dr Reilly

Location: MRC Centre for Neuromuscular Diseases, Department of Molecular

Neuroscience, UCL Institute of Neurology

Condition: Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease 1A

Duration: 3 years, completed August 2009

Total Project Cost: £201,601

Official Title: Randomised double blind placebo controlled trial of long-term

ascorbic acid treatment in Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease type 1A.

Dr Reilly and colleagues organised this first clinical trial for

Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease type 1A (CMT1A) to determine if vitamin C could slow

the progression of the condition. Unfortunately the trial showed that while the

high doses of vitamin C were safe, it did not improve the symptoms nor did it

slow the progression of CMT1A on objective tests. The trial did however gather

important information on the progression of CMT1A and gained experience in

conducting clinical trials for this condition that will be valuable for future

CMT1A clinical trials.

What were the researchers aiming to do?

In 2004, researchers discovered that when they gave vitamin C to a mouse model

of CMT1A, there was an improvement in the symptoms the mice were displaying.

These mice also performed better in a series of muscle function tests than

untreated mice. Since vitamin C is already freely available there was concern

that some people with CMT1A were taking high doses of vitamin C, having read

about this study, without there being clear evidence of a similar effect in

humans. It was, therefore, decided that a trial should be set up to test if

vitamin C did indeed have a similar effect in humans and whether it was safe for

this group of individuals to be taking high dose vitamin C.

Dr Reilly and her colleagues in Italy set up this trial to test the safety and

efficacy of vitamin C in CMT1A. The trial was a randomized, double-blind,

placebo-controlled trial. This means that participants were randomly assigned to

receive either vitamin C or a placebo (an inactive substance that looks and

tastes just like vitamin C) and neither the doctors nor the participants knew

who was getting what. As this was the first trial for CMT it was very important

to think carefully about what to measure in order to correctly establish if

there was a difference between the people treated with Vitamin C and those who

got the placebo - these are called outcome measures. Prior to the trial

starting, a European Neuromuscular Centre funded workshop was organised to

determine the best outcome measures. The workshop was attended by an

international group of clinicians and importantly also included two patient

representatives.

Following the workshop it was decided to run the trial in the UK and Italy

with the aim of recruiting 272 participants. The participants, aged between 18

and 70 years of age, would get three doses of either Vitamin C (1.5 g in total

per day) or the placebo every day for 2 years. They were followed up every 6

months and measurements such as muscle strength, changes in feeling, walking

speed and levels of pain and fatigue assessed. 50 participants were to be

recruited in the UK arm of the study, run by Dr Reilly.

What did their research show?

Of the original 50 participants, 38 completed the trial. The 12 who did not

complete the trial dropped out for a variety of reasons including adverse

events, pregnancy, admissions for surgery, withdrawal of consent and failure to

attend follow-up appointments.

Unfortunately the trial showed that while the high doses of vitamin C were

safe, it did not improve the symptoms nor did it slow the progression of CMT1A

on objective tests. Although this is a negative result, it was still important

to carry out the trial to prove one way or the other whether vitamin C would

have an effect. Researchers will be able to use this information and move onto

exploring other avenues for possible therapy.

One important result of this trial has been the validation of the outcome

measures for CMT. The fact that this has been a long term trial (2 years) has

also allowed Dr Reilly and her colleagues to gather detailed information about

how this condition progresses and changes over time. This valuable information

will help with the planning of future clinical trials for CMT.

How will the outcomes of the research benefit patients?

This trial has shown that vitamin C does not improve the symptoms or slow the

progression of CMT1A. As many people were taking high doses of vitamin C having

heard about the animal study, it was important to determine if this might indeed

prove to be an effective treatment or whether people were unnecessarily taking

this substance.

The work done in this trial also will help to inform and improve future trials

for CMT.

Background Information

CMT is the most prevalent inherited neuromuscular condition affecting around

23,000 people in the UK. CMT1A is the commonest form of CMT and is caused by the

presence of an extra copy of a gene that carries the instructions for a protein

called peripheral myelin protein 22 (PMP-22). PMP-22 has an important role in

the formation and maintenance of myelin. Myelin is the layer wrapped around the

axon of nerve cells and it is important for the conduction of electrical signals

down the nerve. It is thought that having an extra copy of the PMP-22 gene may

impair the function of the myelin and thus affecting how well the nerves are

able to conduct the electrical signals.

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How frustrating!

First, 1.5g of Vitamin C per day is below any efficacy level. Period.

Second, not all Vitamin C is created the same, i.e., it's not identical. A rose

is not always a rose. What kind of Vitamin C were they using?

Third, there is no indication whether the Vitamin C was timed released, or not.

It's worthless if it's all flushed out of your body within minutes, regardless

the dosage.

Fourth, what were those little critter mice being fed as a diet? Yes, it matters

what the humans were eating/drinking.

Fifth, who designs these studies?!

Sixth, what a waste of 2 years!!

>

> First clinical trial of Ascorbic Acid (Vit. C) for Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease

>

>

http://www.muscular-dystrophy.org/research/grants/completed_grants/2713_first_cl\

inical_trial_for_charcot-marie-tooth_disease

>

>

> Project Leader: Dr Reilly

> Location: MRC Centre for Neuromuscular Diseases, Department of Molecular

Neuroscience, UCL Institute of Neurology

> Condition: Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease 1A

> Duration: 3 years, completed August 2009

> Total Project Cost: £201,601

> Official Title: Randomised double blind placebo controlled trial of long-term

ascorbic acid treatment in Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease type 1A.

>

>

> Dr Reilly and colleagues organised this first clinical trial for

Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease type 1A (CMT1A) to determine if vitamin C could slow

the progression of the condition. Unfortunately the trial showed that while the

high doses of vitamin C were safe, it did not improve the symptoms nor did it

slow the progression of CMT1A on objective tests. The trial did however gather

important information on the progression of CMT1A and gained experience in

conducting clinical trials for this condition that will be valuable for future

CMT1A clinical trials.

>

>

> What were the researchers aiming to do?

> In 2004, researchers discovered that when they gave vitamin C to a mouse model

of CMT1A, there was an improvement in the symptoms the mice were displaying.

These mice also performed better in a series of muscle function tests than

untreated mice. Since vitamin C is already freely available there was concern

that some people with CMT1A were taking high doses of vitamin C, having read

about this study, without there being clear evidence of a similar effect in

humans. It was, therefore, decided that a trial should be set up to test if

vitamin C did indeed have a similar effect in humans and whether it was safe for

this group of individuals to be taking high dose vitamin C.

>

> Dr Reilly and her colleagues in Italy set up this trial to test the safety and

efficacy of vitamin C in CMT1A. The trial was a randomized, double-blind,

placebo-controlled trial. This means that participants were randomly assigned to

receive either vitamin C or a placebo (an inactive substance that looks and

tastes just like vitamin C) and neither the doctors nor the participants knew

who was getting what. As this was the first trial for CMT it was very important

to think carefully about what to measure in order to correctly establish if

there was a difference between the people treated with Vitamin C and those who

got the placebo - these are called outcome measures. Prior to the trial

starting, a European Neuromuscular Centre funded workshop was organised to

determine the best outcome measures. The workshop was attended by an

international group of clinicians and importantly also included two patient

representatives.

>

> Following the workshop it was decided to run the trial in the UK and Italy

with the aim of recruiting 272 participants. The participants, aged between 18

and 70 years of age, would get three doses of either Vitamin C (1.5 g in total

per day) or the placebo every day for 2 years. They were followed up every 6

months and measurements such as muscle strength, changes in feeling, walking

speed and levels of pain and fatigue assessed. 50 participants were to be

recruited in the UK arm of the study, run by Dr Reilly.

>

> What did their research show?

> Of the original 50 participants, 38 completed the trial. The 12 who did not

complete the trial dropped out for a variety of reasons including adverse

events, pregnancy, admissions for surgery, withdrawal of consent and failure to

attend follow-up appointments.

>

>

> Unfortunately the trial showed that while the high doses of vitamin C were

safe, it did not improve the symptoms nor did it slow the progression of CMT1A

on objective tests. Although this is a negative result, it was still important

to carry out the trial to prove one way or the other whether vitamin C would

have an effect. Researchers will be able to use this information and move onto

exploring other avenues for possible therapy.

>

>

> One important result of this trial has been the validation of the outcome

measures for CMT. The fact that this has been a long term trial (2 years) has

also allowed Dr Reilly and her colleagues to gather detailed information about

how this condition progresses and changes over time. This valuable information

will help with the planning of future clinical trials for CMT.

>

> How will the outcomes of the research benefit patients?

> This trial has shown that vitamin C does not improve the symptoms or slow the

progression of CMT1A. As many people were taking high doses of vitamin C having

heard about the animal study, it was important to determine if this might indeed

prove to be an effective treatment or whether people were unnecessarily taking

this substance.

>

> The work done in this trial also will help to inform and improve future trials

for CMT.

>

> Background Information

> CMT is the most prevalent inherited neuromuscular condition affecting around

23,000 people in the UK. CMT1A is the commonest form of CMT and is caused by the

presence of an extra copy of a gene that carries the instructions for a protein

called peripheral myelin protein 22 (PMP-22). PMP-22 has an important role in

the formation and maintenance of myelin. Myelin is the layer wrapped around the

axon of nerve cells and it is important for the conduction of electrical signals

down the nerve. It is thought that having an extra copy of the PMP-22 gene may

impair the function of the myelin and thus affecting how well the nerves are

able to conduct the electrical signals.

>

>

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I am sorry you feel so frustrated by this finding.

As a patient in the National Hospital for Neurology I can tell you that the

study and its findings were not taken lightly - it was designed with utmost

care, the people (researchers and clinical doctors alike) working on the study

did their absolute best for the trial. This was 100% NOT a waste of 2 years.

Not in the slightest. These trials are hard to do, and the findings are all

important.

As a participant in other CMT research projects at the National I think that

rather than dismissing the findings if we don't like them, it is more important

to ask and understand what the consequence is and what the next steps will be...

A lot is not understood about the way that the human body processes asorbic acid

(Vitamin C) so although there is not a clinically significant finding for CMT,

this study has helped further understanding of C in humans.

Anytime you want more info on what is going on in the UK let me know - the

support we can get is good, I am often able to request latest research findings

etc.

Best wishes from London,

Donna

>

> How frustrating!

>

> First, 1.5g of Vitamin C per day is below any efficacy level. Period.

>

> Second, not all Vitamin C is created the same, i.e., it's not identical. A

rose is not always a rose. What kind of Vitamin C were they using?

>

> Third, there is no indication whether the Vitamin C was timed released, or

not. It's worthless if it's all flushed out of your body within minutes,

regardless the dosage.

>

> Fourth, what were those little critter mice being fed as a diet? Yes, it

matters what the humans were eating/drinking.

>

> Fifth, who designs these studies?!

>

> Sixth, what a waste of 2 years!!

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Donna,

I am not disappointed in the findings; I'm not surprised by them, either.

Knowledge is knowledge is knowledge. Also, don't lose your objectivity just

because you are/were a participant; I know that's easier said than done, at

times.

I AM disappointed in the way this study - and many studies - was

designed/constructed. It's frustrating - for me - because the design of a good

study is NOT complicated. And if you are going to go to all the effort, and

TIME, to conduct a study, then it should be as tight as possible from the

beginning. Anything can be studiedresearched; make your studies/research

worthwhile - to others.

I have not read the original study, only what's been presented here, so perhaps

there were logical reasons for only using 1.5g AA, justification for the type of

AA used, why they did not (I assume) use time-released AA, dietary control,

etc., etc., etc. Maybe.

As for me, this study did not further my understanding at all. Realize this,

between my diet, and supplements, I consume +/- 1.5g AA on a daily basis - with

no change in my CMT.

This study basically determined that merely observing a bottle of pain

medication does not reduce pain (no comments from all of you regarding the

mind-body connection, please). The 'consequence' of this study is that it will

have to - if ever - be redesigned, studied and analyzed, which could reasonably

take us out another 4+ YEARS!! Some of us do not live comfortable lives with our

CMT, and wish researchers would think a bit more out-of-the-box, carefully and

quickly.

> >

> > How frustrating!

> >

> > First, 1.5g of Vitamin C per day is below any efficacy level. Period.

> >

> > Second, not all Vitamin C is created the same, i.e., it's not identical. A

rose is not always a rose. What kind of Vitamin C were they using?

> >

> > Third, there is no indication whether the Vitamin C was timed released, or

not. It's worthless if it's all flushed out of your body within minutes,

regardless the dosage.

> >

> > Fourth, what were those little critter mice being fed as a diet? Yes, it

matters what the humans were eating/drinking.

> >

> > Fifth, who designs these studies?!

> >

> > Sixth, what a waste of 2 years!!

>

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For information, I was not a participant in this study.

Isn't it amazing how we judged each other based on the words in our posts? This

is a reminder to me that not everyone knows " where I am coming from " ...

Personally, and this is my opinion, I think this was a well designed study. We

have to acknowledge that as far as study design goes, when you start from a base

of an RDA of 60 milligrams, trialling 1500mg is a big jump! On this board we

discuss taking very high doses like it is nothing - 10000mg are what some people

take. My nutritionist and doctors recognise that these are doses that are

taken, and tolerated, by some people. But there is much debate as to what " a

large dosage " of Vitamin C is. So the fact that they have now, in essence,

pushed the envelope so that 1500mg can be seen as " normal " is good news in my

opinion.

I have participated in other studies at the National - namely the exercise based

one on hip flexor strength. They follow very strict protocol. So I am sure

this study was not different in that regard, but I am not sure of the details.

I will ask my doctors for the exact text of the study and post it to here. Will

let everyone know when I do.

Donna

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Hi, Donna - We take up to 4000 mg vitamin c whenever we get a cold and that +

echinea knocks it out fast. Almost never do we have colds or anything else.

Normally we take 2,000 a day.

That 60 mg a day is what a government that doesn't care if we are sick

recommends.

We've never had a problem with vitamin c: and it also helps blood pressure and

asthma.

Hansen

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For information, I was not a participant in this study.

Isn't it amazing how we judged each other based on the words in our posts?

This is a reminder to me that not everyone knows " where I am coming from " ...

Personally, and this is my opinion, I think this was a well designed study. We

have to acknowledge that as far as study design goes, when you start from a base

of an RDA of 60 milligrams, trialling 1500mg is a big jump! On this board we

discuss taking very high doses like it is nothing - 10000mg are what some people

take. My nutritionist and doctors recognise that these are doses that are taken,

and tolerated, by some people. But there is much debate as to what " a large

dosage " of Vitamin C is. So the fact that they have now, in essence, pushed the

envelope so that 1500mg can be seen as " normal " is good news in my opinion.

I have participated in other studies at the National - namely the exercise

based one on hip flexor strength. They follow very strict protocol. So I am sure

this study was not different in that regard, but I am not sure of the details.

I will ask my doctors for the exact text of the study and post it to here.

Will let everyone know when I do.

Donna

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This study is part of a group of studies and all of the data is not currently

available because some trials are still ongoing or just completing duration.

(Italy, USA, etc) The UK recruited only 50 patients with CMT, out of the 50,

only 38 completed the trial. An international team of investigators and the

European Neuromuscular Center designed the research and established the best

measures. These trials are using Ascorbic Acid.

Remember mice can synthesize Ascorbic Acid, humans cannot, so in all these

trials, dosage and length of trials is important. This one was only 2 years. The

jury is still out until all trials are completed. By about next March-May we

should be hearing about the longer (3 years)USA Ascorbic Acid trials.

Keep the faith! Don't give up!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > First clinical trial of Ascorbic Acid (Vit. C) for Charcot-Marie-Tooth

disease

> >

> >

http://www.muscular-dystrophy.org/research/grants/completed_grants/2713_first_cl\

inical_trial_for_charcot-marie-tooth_disease

> >

> >

> > Project Leader: Dr Reilly

> > Location: MRC Centre for Neuromuscular Diseases, Department of Molecular

Neuroscience, UCL Institute of Neurology

> > Condition: Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease 1A

> > Duration: 3 years, completed August 2009

> > Total Project Cost: £201,601

> > Official Title: Randomised double blind placebo controlled trial of

long-term ascorbic acid treatment in Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease type 1A.

> >

> >

> > Dr Reilly and colleagues organised this first clinical trial for

Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease type 1A (CMT1A) to determine if vitamin C could slow

the progression of the condition. Unfortunately the trial showed that while the

high doses of vitamin C were safe, it did not improve the symptoms nor did it

slow the progression of CMT1A on objective tests. The trial did however gather

important information on the progression of CMT1A and gained experience in

conducting clinical trials for this condition that will be valuable for future

CMT1A clinical trials.

> >

> >

> > What were the researchers aiming to do?

> > In 2004, researchers discovered that when they gave vitamin C to a mouse

model of CMT1A, there was an improvement in the symptoms the mice were

displaying. These mice also performed better in a series of muscle function

tests than untreated mice. Since vitamin C is already freely available there was

concern that some people with CMT1A were taking high doses of vitamin C, having

read about this study, without there being clear evidence of a similar effect in

humans. It was, therefore, decided that a trial should be set up to test if

vitamin C did indeed have a similar effect in humans and whether it was safe for

this group of individuals to be taking high dose vitamin C.

> >

> > Dr Reilly and her colleagues in Italy set up this trial to test the safety

and efficacy of vitamin C in CMT1A. The trial was a randomized, double-blind,

placebo-controlled trial. This means that participants were randomly assigned to

receive either vitamin C or a placebo (an inactive substance that looks and

tastes just like vitamin C) and neither the doctors nor the participants knew

who was getting what. As this was the first trial for CMT it was very important

to think carefully about what to measure in order to correctly establish if

there was a difference between the people treated with Vitamin C and those who

got the placebo - these are called outcome measures. Prior to the trial

starting, a European Neuromuscular Centre funded workshop was organised to

determine the best outcome measures. The workshop was attended by an

international group of clinicians and importantly also included two patient

representatives.

> >

> > Following the workshop it was decided to run the trial in the UK and Italy

with the aim of recruiting 272 participants. The participants, aged between 18

and 70 years of age, would get three doses of either Vitamin C (1.5 g in total

per day) or the placebo every day for 2 years. They were followed up every 6

months and measurements such as muscle strength, changes in feeling, walking

speed and levels of pain and fatigue assessed. 50 participants were to be

recruited in the UK arm of the study, run by Dr Reilly.

> >

> > What did their research show?

> > Of the original 50 participants, 38 completed the trial. The 12 who did not

complete the trial dropped out for a variety of reasons including adverse

events, pregnancy, admissions for surgery, withdrawal of consent and failure to

attend follow-up appointments.

> >

> >

> > Unfortunately the trial showed that while the high doses of vitamin C were

safe, it did not improve the symptoms nor did it slow the progression of CMT1A

on objective tests. Although this is a negative result, it was still important

to carry out the trial to prove one way or the other whether vitamin C would

have an effect. Researchers will be able to use this information and move onto

exploring other avenues for possible therapy.

> >

> >

> > One important result of this trial has been the validation of the outcome

measures for CMT. The fact that this has been a long term trial (2 years) has

also allowed Dr Reilly and her colleagues to gather detailed information about

how this condition progresses and changes over time. This valuable information

will help with the planning of future clinical trials for CMT.

> >

> > How will the outcomes of the research benefit patients?

> > This trial has shown that vitamin C does not improve the symptoms or slow

the progression of CMT1A. As many people were taking high doses of vitamin C

having heard about the animal study, it was important to determine if this might

indeed prove to be an effective treatment or whether people were unnecessarily

taking this substance.

> >

> > The work done in this trial also will help to inform and improve future

trials for CMT.

> >

> > Background Information

> > CMT is the most prevalent inherited neuromuscular condition affecting around

23,000 people in the UK. CMT1A is the commonest form of CMT and is caused by the

presence of an extra copy of a gene that carries the instructions for a protein

called peripheral myelin protein 22 (PMP-22). PMP-22 has an important role in

the formation and maintenance of myelin. Myelin is the layer wrapped around the

axon of nerve cells and it is important for the conduction of electrical signals

down the nerve. It is thought that having an extra copy of the PMP-22 gene may

impair the function of the myelin and thus affecting how well the nerves are

able to conduct the electrical signals.

> >

> >

> > < Return to completed grants

> >

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Hi ,

The primary side effect of taking high dosage vitamin c is stomach irritation

and diarrhea. This can be managed through slowly increasing doses to a high

level, and ensuring adequate hydration. At least that is my experience and the

recommendation of my nutritionist.

Personally I had to discontinue vitamin c supplements (and all supplements which

could have an impact on CMT) when I participated in the hip flexor strength

study at the Institute of Neurology here in the UK. I have managed my health

since then by focusing on nutrition, diet, healthy eating and exercise.

I have checked with my physiotherapy team at ION (UCH) who work with Dr

Reilly's clinic, and the research has not been published yet (the paper is still

being written) - what has been published on the forum is a first release

extract by the MDA.

Best wishes,

Donna from London

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As for me, I'm not giving up. I'm just frustrated. A study using 10-15g would

have been a better place at which to START, not 1.5g. We know most animals fall

generally in this 10-15g range under normal conditions, but when under stress

they produce even more.

Sigh.

> > >

> > > First clinical trial of Ascorbic Acid (Vit. C) for Charcot-Marie-Tooth

disease

> > >

> > >

http://www.muscular-dystrophy.org/research/grants/completed_grants/2713_first_cl\

inical_trial_for_charcot-marie-tooth_disease

> > >

> > >

> > > Project Leader: Dr Reilly

> > > Location: MRC Centre for Neuromuscular Diseases, Department of Molecular

Neuroscience, UCL Institute of Neurology

> > > Condition: Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease 1A

> > > Duration: 3 years, completed August 2009

> > > Total Project Cost: £201,601

> > > Official Title: Randomised double blind placebo controlled trial of

long-term ascorbic acid treatment in Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease type 1A.

> > >

> > >

> > > Dr Reilly and colleagues organised this first clinical trial for

Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease type 1A (CMT1A) to determine if vitamin C could slow

the progression of the condition. Unfortunately the trial showed that while the

high doses of vitamin C were safe, it did not improve the symptoms nor did it

slow the progression of CMT1A on objective tests. The trial did however gather

important information on the progression of CMT1A and gained experience in

conducting clinical trials for this condition that will be valuable for future

CMT1A clinical trials.

> > >

> > >

> > > What were the researchers aiming to do?

> > > In 2004, researchers discovered that when they gave vitamin C to a mouse

model of CMT1A, there was an improvement in the symptoms the mice were

displaying. These mice also performed better in a series of muscle function

tests than untreated mice. Since vitamin C is already freely available there was

concern that some people with CMT1A were taking high doses of vitamin C, having

read about this study, without there being clear evidence of a similar effect in

humans. It was, therefore, decided that a trial should be set up to test if

vitamin C did indeed have a similar effect in humans and whether it was safe for

this group of individuals to be taking high dose vitamin C.

> > >

> > > Dr Reilly and her colleagues in Italy set up this trial to test the safety

and efficacy of vitamin C in CMT1A. The trial was a randomized, double-blind,

placebo-controlled trial. This means that participants were randomly assigned to

receive either vitamin C or a placebo (an inactive substance that looks and

tastes just like vitamin C) and neither the doctors nor the participants knew

who was getting what. As this was the first trial for CMT it was very important

to think carefully about what to measure in order to correctly establish if

there was a difference between the people treated with Vitamin C and those who

got the placebo - these are called outcome measures. Prior to the trial

starting, a European Neuromuscular Centre funded workshop was organised to

determine the best outcome measures. The workshop was attended by an

international group of clinicians and importantly also included two patient

representatives.

> > >

> > > Following the workshop it was decided to run the trial in the UK and Italy

with the aim of recruiting 272 participants. The participants, aged between 18

and 70 years of age, would get three doses of either Vitamin C (1.5 g in total

per day) or the placebo every day for 2 years. They were followed up every 6

months and measurements such as muscle strength, changes in feeling, walking

speed and levels of pain and fatigue assessed. 50 participants were to be

recruited in the UK arm of the study, run by Dr Reilly.

> > >

> > > What did their research show?

> > > Of the original 50 participants, 38 completed the trial. The 12 who did

not complete the trial dropped out for a variety of reasons including adverse

events, pregnancy, admissions for surgery, withdrawal of consent and failure to

attend follow-up appointments.

> > >

> > >

> > > Unfortunately the trial showed that while the high doses of vitamin C were

safe, it did not improve the symptoms nor did it slow the progression of CMT1A

on objective tests. Although this is a negative result, it was still important

to carry out the trial to prove one way or the other whether vitamin C would

have an effect. Researchers will be able to use this information and move onto

exploring other avenues for possible therapy.

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> > > One important result of this trial has been the validation of the outcome

measures for CMT. The fact that this has been a long term trial (2 years) has

also allowed Dr Reilly and her colleagues to gather detailed information about

how this condition progresses and changes over time. This valuable information

will help with the planning of future clinical trials for CMT.

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> > > How will the outcomes of the research benefit patients?

> > > This trial has shown that vitamin C does not improve the symptoms or slow

the progression of CMT1A. As many people were taking high doses of vitamin C

having heard about the animal study, it was important to determine if this might

indeed prove to be an effective treatment or whether people were unnecessarily

taking this substance.

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> > > The work done in this trial also will help to inform and improve future

trials for CMT.

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> > > Background Information

> > > CMT is the most prevalent inherited neuromuscular condition affecting

around 23,000 people in the UK. CMT1A is the commonest form of CMT and is caused

by the presence of an extra copy of a gene that carries the instructions for a

protein called peripheral myelin protein 22 (PMP-22). PMP-22 has an important

role in the formation and maintenance of myelin. Myelin is the layer wrapped

around the axon of nerve cells and it is important for the conduction of

electrical signals down the nerve. It is thought that having an extra copy of

the PMP-22 gene may impair the function of the myelin and thus affecting how

well the nerves are able to conduct the electrical signals.

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Thanks much for the information.

Hansen

Re: CMT 1A: Results of Vitamin C trial in the UK

Hi ,

The primary side effect of taking high dosage vitamin c is stomach irritation

and diarrhea. This can be managed through slowly increasing doses to a high

level, and ensuring adequate hydration. At least that is my experience and the

recommendation of my nutritionist.

Personally I had to discontinue vitamin c supplements (and all supplements

which could have an impact on CMT) when I participated in the hip flexor

strength study at the Institute of Neurology here in the UK. I have managed my

health since then by focusing on nutrition, diet, healthy eating and exercise.

I have checked with my physiotherapy team at ION (UCH) who work with Dr

Reilly's clinic, and the research has not been published yet (the paper is still

being written) - what has been published on the forum is a first release

extract by the MDA.

Best wishes,

Donna from London

www.myfitnessyear.com

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I have taken 8gm of time-released Vit C from GNC divided morning and night

since the results of the mouse study were released. I went up to that dose

slowly, but started seeing some muscle increases at 4-6 gm. Today my hands

are much stronger than they were and I have increased the muscles in my feet

and legs. I still have bilateral foot drop, but I got to where I was over

20-30 yrs so I don't expect to repair the damage sooner.

Interestingly the mouse study was on CMT Type 1 and I was diagnosed by Dr

Jerry Mendel at OSU as having Type 2 CMT. I figured I had nothing to lose

trying the Vit C. I'm so glad I did. My husband, a Family Practice

Physician and my Orthopedic Physician said not to expect any results by

trying but it wouldn't hurt me. I showed them!

Sue

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