Re: Re: BioEra vs BioExplorer

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BioEra does allow export of data to Excel during a session.  So assessment could take place on those values rather than on data exported from BioReview.  The major drawback right not is there is not an object that calculates coherence.  I know the issue has come up on the support page at BIoEra.It has taken me a while to master the ins and outs of the program.  The biggest challenge has been to find a way to create designs that are as straight forward to use as are the BIoExplorer designs.   The ability to create a threshold object that will toggle between Auto and Manual thresholds and toggle enhance and inhibit takes many different objects.   The good thing about BioEra is that once you have created something like this it can be saved as a single (nested) element and inserted into any other designs you like.I am hopeful of having a basic design package available in the next several months.   With luck and perseverance I will also be able to include a library of nested elements as well so users will find it easier to modify or create designs of their own, georgemartin@...www.northstarneurofeedback.com I've started using bioera recently. I think you're right, it is muchmore flexible and powerful than bioexplorer, but on the other handdefinitely harder to master.Bioera's developer, Jarek, is very responsive and helpful, in contrastto the bioexplorer team.There are more designs available from the developer than the ones youlisted, but these others are more for the purposes of showing how touse bioera rather than end products. They come with the bioera prodownload.I anticipate selling design suites eventually, but the release will beat least several months away. I would guess in time, other designpacks will become available but don't know of anyone working on one.There is no bioera equivalent of bioreview, so I imagine it would beharder to develop the TLC package for bioera - but perhaps Pete willcomment on it.Best,Glyn BlackettYork England I have been looking to BioEra and BioExplorer. In my opinion BioEra ismuch more flexible, allows to define simulated source of the signal,allows to read and write to different format files (.edf,  .pcm, .wav,.xls, etc) , allows to transform to frequency domain (FFT) and toprocess the frequency vectors, and many other options.However just few design example are available:OneRewardBinauralBeats.bpd, OneRewardContinuousTone.bpd,OneRewardMidi.bpd, OneRewardOneInhibitPacman.bpd,OneRewardOneInhibitRacerGame.bpd, OneRewardVideo.bpd.When I look at brain-trainer website, I see that many material isavailable on BioExplorer (i.e. Quick start package, TCL assestment,TCL artifacter, ABCD plan and protocol service, NeuroInnovationDesigns for BioExplorer) but none it seems to be available on BioEra. if I choose BioEra, do I risk to be left on my own? Is anybody workingwith it and developing packages as for BioExplorer?Thanks, ilario ------------------------------------

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BioEra does allow export of data to Excel during a session. So assessment could take place on those values rather than on data exported from BioReview. The major drawback right not is there is not an object that calculates coherence. I know the issue has come up on the support page at BIoEra.

It has taken me a while to master the ins and outs of the program. The biggest challenge has been to find a way to create designs that are as straight forward to use as are the BIoExplorer designs. The ability to create a threshold object that will toggle between Auto and Manual thresholds and toggle enhance and inhibit takes many different objects. The good thing about BioEra is that once you have created something like this it can be saved as a single (nested) element and inserted into any other designs you like.

I am hopeful of having a basic design package available in the next several months. With luck and perseverance I will also be able to include a library of nested elements as well so users will find it easier to modify or create designs of their own,

georgemartin@...

www.northstarneurofeedback.com

I've started using bioera recently. I think you're right, it is much

more flexible and powerful than bioexplorer, but on the other hand

definitely harder to master.

Bioera's developer, Jarek, is very responsive and helpful, in contrast

to the bioexplorer team.

There are more designs available from the developer than the ones you

listed, but these others are more for the purposes of showing how to

use bioera rather than end products. They come with the bioera pro

download.

I anticipate selling design suites eventually, but the release will be

at least several months away. I would guess in time, other design

packs will become available but don't know of anyone working on one.

There is no bioera equivalent of bioreview, so I imagine it would be

harder to develop the TLC package for bioera - but perhaps Pete will

comment on it.

Best,

Glyn Blackett

York England

I have been looking to BioEra and BioExplorer. In my opinion BioEra is

much more flexible, allows to define simulated source of the signal,

allows to read and write to different format files (.edf, .pcm, .wav,

..xls, etc) , allows to transform to frequency domain (FFT) and to

process the frequency vectors, and many other options.

However just few design example are available:

OneRewardBinauralBeats.bpd, OneRewardContinuousTone.bpd,

OneRewardMidi.bpd, OneRewardOneInhibitPacman.bpd,

OneRewardOneInhibitRacerGame.bpd, OneRewardVideo.bpd.

When I look at brain-trainer website, I see that many material is

available on BioExplorer (i.e. Quick start package, TCL assestment,

TCL artifacter, ABCD plan and protocol service, NeuroInnovation

Designs for BioExplorer) but none it seems to be available on BioEra.

if I choose BioEra, do I risk to be left on my own? Is anybody working

with it and developing packages as for BioExplorer?

Thanks, ilario

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Am I right in thinking that this can be run directly on a Mac?BioEra does allow export of data to Excel during a session. So assessment could take place on those values rather than on data exported from BioReview. The major drawback right not is there is not an object that calculates coherence. I know the issue has come up on the support page at BIoEra.It has taken me a while to master the ins and outs of the program. The biggest challenge has been to find a way to create designs that are as straight forward to use as are the BIoExplorer designs. The ability to create a threshold object that will toggle between Auto and Manual thresholds and toggle enhance and inhibit takes many different objects. The good thing about BioEra is that once you have created something like this it can be saved as a single (nested) element and inserted into any other designs you like.I am hopeful of having a basic design package available in the next several months. With luck and perseverance I will also be able to include a library of nested elements as well so users will find it easier to modify or create designs of their own,georgemartinnorthstarneurofeedbackwww.northstarneurofeedback.comI've started using bioera recently. I think you're right, it is muchmore flexible and powerful than bioexplorer, but on the other handdefinitely harder to master.Bioera's developer, Jarek, is very responsive and helpful, in contrastto the bioexplorer team.There are more designs available from the developer than the ones youlisted, but these others are more for the purposes of showing how touse bioera rather than end products. They come with the bioera prodownload.I anticipate selling design suites eventually, but the release will beat least several months away. I would guess in time, other designpacks will become available but don't know of anyone working on one.There is no bioera equivalent of bioreview, so I imagine it would beharder to develop the TLC package for bioera - but perhaps Pete willcomment on it.Best,Glyn BlackettYork EnglandI have been looking to BioEra and BioExplorer. In my opinion BioEra ismuch more flexible, allows to define simulated source of the signal,allows to read and write to different format files (.edf, .pcm, .wav,.xls, etc) , allows to transform to frequency domain (FFT) and toprocess the frequency vectors, and many other options.However just few design example are available:OneRewardBinauralBeats.bpd, OneRewardContinuousTone.bpd,OneRewardMidi.bpd, OneRewardOneInhibitPacman.bpd,OneRewardOneInhibitRacerGame.bpd, OneRewardVideo.bpd.When I look at brain-trainer website, I see that many material isavailable on BioExplorer (i.e. Quick start package, TCL assestment,TCL artifacter, ABCD plan and protocol service, NeuroInnovationDesigns for BioExplorer) but none it seems to be available on BioEra. if I choose BioEra, do I risk to be left on my own? Is anybody workingwith it and developing packages as for BioExplorer?Thanks, ilario------------------------------------

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Am I right in thinking that Bioera can be used natively in a Mac environment?BioEra does allow export of data to Excel during a session. So assessment could take place on those values rather than on data exported from BioReview. The major drawback right not is there is not an object that calculates coherence. I know the issue has come up on the support page at BIoEra.It has taken me a while to master the ins and outs of the program. The biggest challenge has been to find a way to create designs that are as straight forward to use as are the BIoExplorer designs. The ability to create a threshold object that will toggle between Auto and Manual thresholds and toggle enhance and inhibit takes many different objects. The good thing about BioEra is that once you have created something like this it can be saved as a single (nested) element and inserted into any other designs you like.I am hopeful of having a basic design package available in the next several months. With luck and perseverance I will also be able to include a library of nested elements as well so users will find it easier to modify or create designs of their own,georgemartinnorthstarneurofeedbackwww.northstarneurofeedback.comI've started using bioera recently. I think you're right, it is muchmore flexible and powerful than bioexplorer, but on the other handdefinitely harder to master.Bioera's developer, Jarek, is very responsive and helpful, in contrastto the bioexplorer team.There are more designs available from the developer than the ones youlisted, but these others are more for the purposes of showing how touse bioera rather than end products. They come with the bioera prodownload.I anticipate selling design suites eventually, but the release will beat least several months away. I would guess in time, other designpacks will become available but don't know of anyone working on one.There is no bioera equivalent of bioreview, so I imagine it would beharder to develop the TLC package for bioera - but perhaps Pete willcomment on it.Best,Glyn BlackettYork EnglandI have been looking to BioEra and BioExplorer. In my opinion BioEra ismuch more flexible, allows to define simulated source of the signal,allows to read and write to different format files (.edf, .pcm, .wav,.xls, etc) , allows to transform to frequency domain (FFT) and toprocess the frequency vectors, and many other options.However just few design example are available:OneRewardBinauralBeats.bpd, OneRewardContinuousTone.bpd,OneRewardMidi.bpd, OneRewardOneInhibitPacman.bpd,OneRewardOneInhibitRacerGame.bpd, OneRewardVideo.bpd.When I look at brain-trainer website, I see that many material isavailable on BioExplorer (i.e. Quick start package, TCL assestment,TCL artifacter, ABCD plan and protocol service, NeuroInnovationDesigns for BioExplorer) but none it seems to be available on BioEra. if I choose BioEra, do I risk to be left on my own? Is anybody workingwith it and developing packages as for BioExplorer?Thanks, ilario------------------------------------

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,BioEra Lite  Has been successfully run on a Mac.  The current commercial version is installed with a windows .exe file and the BioEra program is an .exe as well. The lite version has fewer features than the pro version and as far as I know is no longer being upgraded.georgemartin@...www.northstarneurofeedback.com Am I right in thinking that Bioera can be used natively in a Mac environment?BioEra does allow export of data to Excel during a session.  So assessment could take place on those values rather than on data exported from BioReview.  The major drawback right not is there is not an object that calculates coherence.  I know the issue has come up on the support page at BIoEra.It has taken me a while to master the ins and outs of the program.  The biggest challenge has been to find a way to create designs that are as straight forward to use as are the BIoExplorer designs.   The ability to create a threshold object that will toggle between Auto and Manual thresholds and toggle enhance and inhibit takes many different objects.   The good thing about BioEra is that once you have created something like this it can be saved as a single (nested) element and inserted into any other designs you like.I am hopeful of having a basic design package available in the next several months.   With luck and perseverance I will also be able to include a library of nested elements as well so users will find it easier to modify or create designs of their own,georgemartinnorthstarneurofeedbackwww.northstarneurofeedback.comI've started using bioera recently. I think you're right, it is muchmore flexible and powerful than bioexplorer, but on the other handdefinitely harder to master.Bioera's developer, Jarek, is very responsive and helpful, in contrastto the bioexplorer team.There are more designs available from the developer than the ones youlisted, but these others are more for the purposes of showing how touse bioera rather than end products. They come with the bioera prodownload.I anticipate selling design suites eventually, but the release will beat least several months away. I would guess in time, other designpacks will become available but don't know of anyone working on one.There is no bioera equivalent of bioreview, so I imagine it would beharder to develop the TLC package for bioera - but perhaps Pete willcomment on it.Best,Glyn BlackettYork EnglandI have been looking to BioEra and BioExplorer. In my opinion BioEra ismuch more flexible, allows to define simulated source of the signal,allows to read and write to different format files (.edf,  .pcm, .wav,.xls, etc) , allows to transform to frequency domain (FFT) and toprocess the frequency vectors, and many other options.However just few design example are available:OneRewardBinauralBeats.bpd, OneRewardContinuousTone.bpd,OneRewardMidi.bpd, OneRewardOneInhibitPacman.bpd,OneRewardOneInhibitRacerGame.bpd, OneRewardVideo.bpd.When I look at brain-trainer website, I see that many material isavailable on BioExplorer (i.e. Quick start package, TCL assestment,TCL artifacter, ABCD plan and protocol service, NeuroInnovationDesigns for BioExplorer) but none it seems to be available on BioEra. if I choose BioEra, do I risk to be left on my own? Is anybody workingwith it and developing packages as for BioExplorer?Thanks, ilario------------------------------------