Medication question

April 27, 2007

Our 5 yo son was put on the med for his anxiety problems. He has the

same diagnosis. We took him off after 3 weeks. His teachers begged us

to. THey said the spark was gone, he lost his personality. We found he

was more defiant. It scared us to thepoint where we will not do this

again. The one positive was that his handwriting improved greatly.

I am glad that things are going well in your case.

>

> Hi!

> Our 13 y.o. son who wasdx'ed with aspergers syndrome 3 yrs ago was

> just this past week put on a medicine called Ambilfy, anyone heard of

> it? It has really helped our son immencely in so many areas of his

> daily life. Has anyone else in the group had any experience with

this

> med.? I'd appreciate any input on this you all could offer.

> Thanks!!

> Merica

>

April 30, 2007

Hope has been on Abilify for almost 1 year and a half. It has completely changed everything. I was unable to work, leave the house etc., because she was so violent and self injurious. It basically calmed her down enough for us to work with her. She continues to use it at 20mg, along with Tenex and DVATP for bed wetting. I have not yet seen a single reaction other than the sleepiness for the first 2 weeks we were using it. d corbin <jdcorbin_2000@...> wrote: Hello Merica, my dd is 14 and has been on Abilify for almost 1 yr in addition to her adderall xr and namenda. It was dx'd in her case for her bi polar and I really have not seen any negatives with it. As long as I can get her to take it nightly, it works. good luck and God bless! DeeDeejimmynjoshuasmom <jimmynjoshuasmom > wrote: Hi!Our 13 y.o. son who wasdx'ed with aspergers syndrome 3 yrs ago was just this past week put on a medicine called Ambilfy, anyone heard of it? It has really helped our son immencely in so many areas of his daily life. Has anyone else in the group had any experience with this med.? I'd appreciate any input on this you all could offer.Thanks!!Merica Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Message to those affected with autismNever change. We love you just as you are. We will teach you our communication style in the best way we know how. We want to learn how to communicate in your style too. Please teach us. When we achieve this goal, we can find the perfect balance of coexisting in this world, accepting each other for who we are.

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May 1, 2007

Merica

Do you mean Abilify? If so my son is also

on it, and has been for about a year but we are getting ready to go off of it.

It has made him so hungry that the hunger makes behavior issues.

Greta

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1:54 PM

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medication question

Hi!

Our 13 y.o. son who wasdx'ed with aspergers syndrome 3 yrs ago was

just this past week put on a medicine called Ambilfy, anyone heard of

it? It has really helped our son immencely in so many areas of his

daily life. Has anyone else in the group had any experience with this

med.? I'd appreciate any input on this you all could offer.

Thanks!!

Merica

May 5, 2007

My son just started on Clonidine yesterday and slept most of the

day. I pray that it helps him with tantrums and sometimes violent

behavior. Jodi

>

> Hi!

> Our 13 y.o. son who wasdx'ed with aspergers syndrome 3 yrs ago was

> just this past week put on a medicine called Ambilfy, anyone heard

of

> it? It has really helped our son immencely in so many areas of his

> daily life. Has anyone else in the group had any experience with

this

> med.? I'd appreciate any input on this you all could offer.

> Thanks!!

> Merica

>

May 5, 2007

Hi

I am new to the group my son is 11 years old non verbal with autism &

behavioral issues. He was prescribed abilify to help him focus & calm

down for the most part it has helped, but with it his appetite has

increased & he has gained weight. MP has always been a big & strong

kid.Well with the weight increase his strength has also increased

making it hard to handle him at times. We are doing an execise

program (once a week & now that the nicer weather is comming we hope

he will be able to be outside more which he loves ) & also with the

weight gain we have to consintally increase his dose MP is around

5ft & 136 lbs

I am happy to hear that others on abilify have been sucessful

thanks for puting this group together I look forward to exchanging

ideas & chatting with you all Valarie

In Autism and Aspergers Treatment , Jen <diegowench@...> wrote:

>

> Hope has been on Abilify for almost 1 year and a half. It has

completely changed everything. I was unable to work, leave the house

etc., because she was so violent and self injurious. It basically

calmed her down enough for us to work with her. She continues to use

it at 20mg, along with Tenex and DVATP for bed wetting. I have not

yet seen a single reaction other than the sleepiness for the first 2

weeks we were using it.

>

> d corbin <jdcorbin_2000@...> wrote:

> Hello Merica, my dd is 14 and has been on Abilify for

almost 1 yr in addition to her adderall xr and namenda. It was dx'd

in her case for her bi polar and I really have not seen any negatives

with it. As long as I can get her to take it nightly, it works.

>

> good luck and God bless!

> DeeDee

>

> jimmynjoshuasmom <jimmynjoshuasmom@...> wrote:

> Hi!

> Our 13 y.o. son who wasdx'ed with aspergers syndrome 3 yrs ago was

> just this past week put on a medicine called Ambilfy, anyone heard

of

> it? It has really helped our son immencely in so many areas of his

> daily life. Has anyone else in the group had any experience with

this

> med.? I'd appreciate any input on this you all could offer.

> Thanks!!

> Merica

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

> Message to those affected with autism

> Never change. We love you just as you are. We will teach you our

communication style in the best way we know how. We want to learn how

to communicate in your style too. Please teach us. When we achieve

this goal, we can find the perfect balance of coexisting in this

world, accepting each other for who we are.

>

> ---------------------------------

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> Check outnew cars at Autos.

>

May 6, 2007

my son takes clonidine 3 times a day

if he dont take his concerta he is very tired but he is still a bit hyper with his concerta he is more focused but a behavior issue.at night when he takes the meds he will sleep okay some nights and still bad on other nihgts if he dont have to concerta he is alseep at 730 and will sleep all night

it is so hard to find a good meds that work and dont contradict the other one goodluck heres to good sleep

Re: medication question

My son just started on Clonidine yesterday and slept most of the day. I pray that it helps him with tantrums and sometimes violent behavior. Jodi> > > > Hi!> Our 13 y.o. son who wasdx'ed with aspergers syndrome 3 yrs ago was > just this past week put on a medicine called Ambilfy, anyone heard of > it? It has really helped our son immencely in so many areas of his > daily life. Has anyone else in the group had any experience with this > med.? I'd appreciate any input on this you all could offer.> Thanks!!> Merica>

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May 7, 2007

Jodi, My daughter's Neurologist wants to put her on Clonidine also, but I thought it was more for her sleeping issues. If it would help her tantrums and behavior too, that would be unbelieveable. Did they tell you that? THanks, ELissaJeff and Jodi <jjkgardenier@...> wrote: My son just started on Clonidine yesterday and slept most of the day. I pray that it helps him with tantrums and sometimes violent behavior.

Jodi> > > > Hi!> Our 13 y.o. son who wasdx'ed with aspergers syndrome 3 yrs ago was > just this past week put on a medicine called Ambilfy, anyone heard of > it? It has really helped our son immencely in so many areas of his > daily life. Has anyone else in the group had any experience with this > med.? I'd appreciate any input on this you all could offer.> Thanks!!> Merica> Check me out!

May 8, 2007

Sleep issues have been a part of our life also. Some medications help and some cause insomnia. I'm not an expert, but I would like to share that my son, now 10, has been sleeping better since I started giving him certain supplements. He is not on any prescription medication, but I give him 5HTP, magnesium, calcium, and Calms Forte before going to bed. Some people give melatonin and have found it to help.

I, personally, take 5HTP and I've found that I sleep more deeply and if I get woken up for any reason, I am able to fall asleep again. By the way, its also great for your mood and suppresses the appetite if you take it before meals....I just thought I'd share this, cause I know our kids can't always tell us how they feel.

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May 8, 2007

yes the do prescribe clonidine for behavior my son take 1 in the am 1 in ht eafternoon and 1 and half at bedtime it does help some what with the behavior

Re: Re: medication question

Jodi,

My daughter's Neurologist wants to put her on Clonidine also, but I thought it was more for her sleeping issues. If it would help her tantrums and behavior too, that would be unbelieveable. Did they tell you that?

THanks,

ELissaJeff and Jodi <jjkgardenier@ sbcglobal. net> wrote:

My son just started on Clonidine yesterday and slept most of the day. I pray that it helps him with tantrums and sometimes violent behavior. Jodi> > > > Hi!> Our 13 y.o. son who wasdx'ed with aspergers syndrome 3 yrs ago was > just this past week put on a medicine called Ambilfy, anyone heard of > it? It has really helped our son immencely in so many areas of his > daily life. Has anyone else in the group had any experience with this > med.? I'd appreciate any input on this you all could offer.> Thanks!!> Merica>

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May 8, 2007

My son is on clonidine for sleep. Our

neurologist says it lowers blood pressure so he will go to sleep and sleep

through the night, which in turn, ends up helping with some of the behavior

problems, because he gets a good night sleep. (which he never got before). I

have a friend whose son is on a clonidine patch for anxiety…..and it does

keep him calmer without a doubt.

From:

Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Elissa Mercado

Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:38

PM

To:

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: Re:

Re: medication question

Jodi,

My daughter's Neurologist wants to put her on Clonidine also, but I

thought it was more for her sleeping issues. If it would help her tantrums and

behavior too, that would be unbelieveable. Did they tell you that?

THanks,

ELissa

Jeff and Jodi

<jjkgardeniersbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

My son just started on

Clonidine yesterday and slept most of the

day. I pray that it helps him with tantrums and sometimes violent

behavior. Jodi

>

> Hi!

> Our 13 y.o. son who wasdx'ed with aspergers syndrome 3 yrs ago was

> just this past week put on a medicine called Ambilfy, anyone heard

of

> it? It has really helped our son immencely in so many areas of his

> daily life. Has anyone else in the group had any experience with

this

> med.? I'd appreciate any input on this you all could offer.

> Thanks!!

> Merica

>

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me out!

May 8, 2007

Amen! Sleep is our biggest issue around

here…if one sleeps the other doesn’t! I never get any!

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Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:48

PM

To:

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: Re:

Re: medication question

my son takes clonidine 3 times a day

if he dont take his concerta he is very tired but he is

still a bit hyper with his concerta he is more focused but

a behavior issue.at night when he takes the meds he will sleep okay some

nights and still bad on other nihgts if he dont have to concerta he is alseep

at 730 and will sleep all night

it is so hard to find a good meds that work and dont contradict the

other one goodluck heres to good sleep

Re: medication question

My son just started on Clonidine yesterday and slept

most of the

day. I pray that it helps him with tantrums and sometimes violent

behavior. Jodi

>

> Hi!

> Our 13 y.o. son who wasdx'ed with aspergers syndrome 3 yrs ago was

> just this past week put on a medicine called Ambilfy, anyone heard

of

> it? It has really helped our son immencely in so many areas of his

> daily life. Has anyone else in the group had any experience with

this

> med.? I'd appreciate any input on this you all could offer.

> Thanks!!

> Merica

>

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May 9, 2007

and it made my son super hyper figures

RE: Re: medication question

My son is on clonidine for sleep. Our neurologist says it lowers blood pressure so he will go to sleep and sleep through the night, which in turn, ends up helping with some of the behavior problems, because he gets a good night sleep. (which he never got before). I have a friend whose son is on a clonidine patch for anxiety…..and it does keep him calmer without a doubt.

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Elissa MercadoSent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:38 PMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: Re: medication question

Jodi,

My daughter's Neurologist wants to put her on Clonidine also, but I thought it was more for her sleeping issues. If it would help her tantrums and behavior too, that would be unbelieveable. Did they tell you that?

THanks,

ELissaJeff and Jodi <jjkgardeniersbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

My son just started on Clonidine yesterday and slept most of the day. I pray that it helps him with tantrums and sometimes violent behavior. Jodi> > > > Hi!> Our 13 y.o. son who wasdx'ed with aspergers syndrome 3 yrs ago was > just this past week put on a medicine called Ambilfy, anyone heard of > it? It has really helped our son immencely in so many areas of his > daily life. Has anyone else in the group had any experience with this > med.? I'd appreciate any input on this you all could offer.> Thanks!!> Merica>

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May 9, 2007

At 07:30 09/05/2007, you wrote:

and it made my son

super hyper figures

And this surprised you because? Do you not know that as an Aspie I

did research into education and conditions within the spectrum. I

found that 87% experienced " atypical reactions " to medications

designed for Mundanes (Neurotypical); why do doctors think that we would

be normal in medications and not is physiology?

Most documented reactions are as follows:

Psychotropic and calming medications (e.g. Xanax, Prozac, Valium,

Ritalin, ...): Reaction being hyped-up, although often unable to

communicate or articulate; what we call chemical zombification: results

in a greater level of stress and anxiety, dark thoughts and depression;

Aspies and Auties build up tolerances to these over time, resulting in

higher doses, shorter intervals, lower performance and mobility, and when

wearing off sudden build up of a display of confusion and anxiety, shown

by extreme forceful behaviour (due to build up of excessive emotional

stresses) we attempt to get out our reactions, observations, feelings as

soon as we can; this is often thought to be aggressive, violent or

disruptive behaviour, resulting in more meds which intensify the

reaction. Tendancies of shown reactions in Mundanes <1%?, in

Aspies 1 in 34%, Auties 1 in 27% (over 59% of Aspies with Allergies and A

Bloodtypes) - predisposition to atypical reaction are inherited, like

allergies.

Pain killers: Aspirin, Paracetamol: in Mundanes this thins the blood, or

increases blood flow: in Aspies and Auties, this is likely to have the

tendancy or spreading the pain more widespread, resulting in higher

anxiety and feeling less well, as more pain receptors respond.

Often these should be avoided in favour of painblockers (Opiates, such as

Iboprofen (Neurofen), Melfen - please note that these should only be

taken in the MOST severe pain and rarely, not several a day, as they have

to be taken with food, and are otherwise likely to cause Ulcers and

severe reactions in the stomach and intestines due to their potency and

acidity (taking regular amounts of this medication without food can

result in death from burst or ruptured digestive tract and internal

bleeding - usually seen before fatal by bloodloss in urine or fecal

mattter, such as piles; Other affective Opiates which limit the amount of

pain information getting to the brain and thus block the pain receptors

include: Codeine, or products containing Quinine (e.g. Schweppes Indian

Tonic Water). Small localised issues can be controlled by

will-power.

Steroid-based anti-inflamatories (Cortizone/Hydrocortisyl): these are

usually given for Arthritis and swellings of joints and muscles in

Mundanes; in Aspies and relatives have known reactions resulting in

alternating hot/cold flushes, eczema (red inflamed skin with white

bubbles popping up), kidney-pains and more severe localised pains on the

affected joins, spreading all over the body (say from foot, where pain

started, all the way up to the neck).

It is not unknown to people to die or require emergency resuscitation:

Reaction in Mundanes: 1 in 100,000; In Auties 18%+, Aspies

35.8%;

Vacinations: because retention of metals and slow clearing of microbes

and bacteria can take place reactions tend to hold for several days in

people with genetic predisposition to an Autistic immunity, resulting in

temperatures and general unease. Parents tend to blame vaccinations

for intensification or start-up of Autism, as they sometimes occur at the

same stages - in countries where they do not occur at the same time (e.g.

where all vaccinations are between birth and 6 months), children still

end up getting noted for Autism between 2-5 years old, as this is when

most developmental key stages come and go and when failure to meet these

is thus observed. While the reactions are known and documented, it

is recommended that closer observation of a child from a family with a

history of conditions within or adjacent to the spectrum. Ironically it

is 1% LESS likely to get a diagnosis when vaccinated, then

those whom are not - my belief is that this is because of greater

socialisation and participation tends to help a child normalise to a

degree that they go unobserved. Although my first son, Gene

Tómas Iain Wise died (yesterday 12

years ago) at 24 days after a temperature 6 days from his BJC

vaccination, and all his blood, gas and tissue samples appear to have

gone missing, our other 3 children have been vaccinated on schedule

between birth and 6 months - each of them were born with the atypical

reactions which you might expect (secondary lactose intolerance in males;

acute awareness and observation of shapes and sounds from birth; sitting

up and looking around after a week, mild and quite disposition until 18

months, inquisitive active brain, hearing and light sensitivity) ....

before the vaccinations occurred ...

Standarised testing shows that conditions in the Autistic spectrum may be

9 times more common in peoples with Germanic and Scandinavian,

Anglo-Irish and Celtic population then African, Native American or

Indo-Chinese populations.

RE: Re: medication question

My son is on clonidine for sleep. Our

neurologist says it lowers blood pressure so he will go to sleep and

sleep through the night, which in turn, ends up helping with some of the

behavior problems, because he gets a good night sleep. (which he never

got before). I have a friend whose son is on a clonidine patch for

anxiety…..and it does keep him calmer without a

doubt.

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May 14, 2007

That's really good to know. I don't know if it is my imagination or not, but just a few days on Omega 3 and 6 has given me a different child. I told her to go take her clothes off to take a shower and she said "OKAY!" I cannot believe it. I usually have to go through a tantrum and kicking/screaming fight with her. Unbelievable! Maybe (knock on wood) the Omegas will work so well that we don't need anything else (wouldn't that be great!) THanks, Elissavickie <blackfoot124@...> wrote: yes the do prescribe clonidine for behavior my son take 1 in the am 1 in ht eafternoon and 1 and half at bedtime it does help some what with the behavior Re: Re: medication question Jodi, My daughter's Neurologist wants to put her on Clonidine also, but I thought it was more for her sleeping issues. If it would help her tantrums and behavior too, that would

be unbelieveable. Did they tell you that? THanks, ELissaJeff and Jodi <jjkgardenier@ sbcglobal. net> wrote: My son just started on Clonidine yesterday and slept most of the day. I pray that it helps him with tantrums and sometimes violent behavior. Jodi> > > > Hi!> Our 13 y.o. son who wasdx'ed with aspergers syndrome 3 yrs ago was > just this past week put on a medicine called Ambilfy, anyone heard of > it? It has really helped our son immencely in so many areas of his > daily life. Has anyone else in the group had any experience with this > med.? I'd appreciate any input on this you all could offer.> Thanks!!> Merica> Check me out! Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Check me out!

May 15, 2007

What is 5HTP? Thanks. Robinhorsbuf@... wrote: Sleep issues have been a part of our life also. Some medications help and some cause insomnia. I'm not an expert, but I would like to share that my son, now 10, has been sleeping better since I started giving him certain supplements. He is not on any prescription medication, but I give him 5HTP, magnesium, calcium, and Calms

Forte before going to bed. Some people give melatonin and have found it to help. I, personally, take 5HTP and I've found that I sleep more deeply and if I get woken up for any reason, I am able to fall asleep again. By the way, its also great for your mood and suppresses the appetite if you take it before meals....I just thought I'd share this, cause I know our kids can't always tell us how they feel. HTH......Sylvia See what's free at AOL.com.

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August 16, 2007

I don't know much about other meds. My son takes abilify and

is heavy also - around 5'6 " - 203 lbs. But he also has

psychosis and needs this med. I do know that not all kids

gain weight with the meds - ours are just the unlucky ones!

It's so depressing.

>

> My 17 year old son takes Abilify 15mg daily and Prozac 80mg daily.

He has

> taken Prozac for a number of years. He started Abilify several

years ago

> when he was no longer able to take stimulants. Up until about 4-5

years ago

> he was slender (in fact in elementary school he was a " stick " ). We have

> seen a huge weight gain over the last 4-5 years to the point he is now

> markedly obese (5'8 " and 259 pounds). He also has metabolic

syndrome which

> was diagnosed about 3 years ago and takes Glucophage for this. We

have had

> several discussions with the pdoc in the last year or two about changing

> meds to see if this would help with the weight issue; we have all

resisted

> this as he has done so well on the current combo. But, after seeing

the GP

> yesterday for a school physical I am very concerned. He has gained more

> weight - 11 pounds since March so I now feel we have no choice but to

> revisit the possibility of changing his meds. While I know every

child is

> different and reacts differently to meds I was wanting some feedback

on good

> combos that don't cause weight gain. Tyler's diagnoses are ADHD

(dx'd age

> 5) and Asperger's (dx'd age 15).

>

> Thanks in advance for your help.

>

August 16, 2007

Hi, do a google search for SSRI and weight gain (if I had more time

I'd do it now) but there is more than one medication that I've seen

listed in the past that - I think - you can take with an SSRI that

helps stop, and even lose, the weight gain...I think topomax(sp?) was

one but there are others. Anyway, I've seen this come up in group

posts (other groups too) over the years and know that there is

something(s) to help. OK, I did a quick search and found this

paragraph on it, you might can find more to bring up to your son's

doctor; this was on a page about OCD which Prozac is also taken for:

" What drug options are available to manage weight gain?

If all else fails, we sometimes try adding a second drug for a few

weeks to try and assist with weight loss. Cytomel is a thyroid

hormone preparation that can be used to speed metabolic rate. It is

sometimes used for a few weeks to help weight loss. Sometimes a few

weeks of a stimulant drug like Ritalin (Methylphenidate) will help

curb appetite. One drug that often helps a lot with weight loss

associated with anti-obsessional medication and is safe in low doses

(i.e., 50mg) is Topamax (topiramide). There is a recent report on the

ulcer drug, Nizatidine, reducing the weight gain associated with

Zyprexa by as much as 50% without affecting the effectiveness of the

Zyprexa. Chromium Piccolinate is recommended by some people (this can

be obtained in health food stores), but we have limited and

unimpressive experience to date. "

>

> My 17 year old son takes Abilify 15mg daily and Prozac 80mg daily.

He has

> taken Prozac for a number of years. He started Abilify several

years ago

> when he was no longer able to take stimulants. Up until about 4-5

August 16, 2007

The only feedback I have is that my son is also dx'd with adhd/aspergers. He is on Focalin and Risperdal. Seems to work very well. Just the Focalin was great until at about 10 years old,,,,he started really having rages. So,,,in came the Risperdal. If he didn't take the Focalin,,,,he wouldn't need the Risperdal........ He'd be bouncing off the walls, but,.,,,,,,well,,,you get the idea. Good luck. Robin <cindyelgamal@...> wrote: My 17 year old son takes Abilify 15mg daily and Prozac 80mg daily. He has taken Prozac for a number of years. He started Abilify several years ago when he was no longer able to take stimulants. Up until about 4-5 years ago he was slender (in fact in elementary school he was a “stick”). We have seen a huge weight gain over the last 4-5 years to the point he is now markedly obese (5’8” and 259 pounds). He also has metabolic syndrome which was diagnosed about 3 years ago and takes Glucophage for this. We have had several discussions with the pdoc in the last year or two about changing meds to see if this would help with the weight issue; we have all resisted this as he has done so well on the current combo. But, after seeing the GP yesterday for a school physical I am very

concerned. He has gained more weight – 11 pounds since March so I now feel we have no choice but to revisit the possibility of changing his meds. While I know every child is different and reacts differently to meds I was wanting some feedback on good combos that don’t cause weight gain. Tyler’s diagnoses are ADHD (dx’d age 5) and Asperger’s (dx’d age 15). Thanks in advance for your help.

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August 17, 2007

,Is it possible for him to remain on the Abilify and pay very close attention to his diet? The reason I'm asking is that I take Zyprexa, another med in the same class as Abilify, and I gained 50 pounds while on it. Once I came to my senses, I started watching what I was eating. So far, I've lost 30 pounds. Just an idle thought. Undoubtedly my circumstances are different from his. (The first one being that I'm not a 1;7 year old boy!)LizOn Aug 16, 2007, at 3:43 PM, wrote:My 17 year old son takes Abilify 15mg daily and Prozac 80mg daily. He has taken Prozac for a number of years. He started Abilify several years ago when he was no longer able to take stimulants. Up until about 4-5 years ago he was slender (in fact in elementary school he was a “stick”). We have seen a huge weight gain over the last 4-5 years to the point he is now markedly obese (5’8” and 259 pounds). He also has metabolic syndrome which was diagnosed about 3 years ago and takes Glucophage for this. We have had several discussions with the pdoc in the last year or two about changing meds to see if this would help with the weight issue; we have all resisted this as he has done so well on the current combo. But, after seeing the GP yesterday for a school physical I am very concerned. He has gained more weight – 11 pounds since March so I now feel we have no choice but to revisit the possibility of changing his meds. While I know every child is different and reacts differently to meds I was wanting some feedback on good combos that don’t cause weight gain. Tyler’s diagnoses are ADHD (dx’d age 5) and Asperger’s (dx’d age 15). Thanks in advance for your help.

August 17, 2007

Focalin is a stimulant and Tyler cannot take any stimulants –

caused horrible hair and nail pulling and tics. That is why he was put on the

Abilify as it helps with some of the ADHD issues.

From:

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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:42 PM

Subject: Re: ( ) Medication question

The only feedback I have is that my son is also dx'd with

adhd/aspergers.

He is on Focalin and Risperdal.

Seems to work very well.

Just the Focalin was great until at about 10 years old,,,,he

started really having rages.

So,,,in came the Risperdal.

If he didn't take the Focalin,,,,he wouldn't need the

Risperdal........

He'd be bouncing off the walls, but,.,,,,,,well,,,you get

the idea.

Good luck.

Robin

<cindyelgamal@...> wrote:

My 17 year old

son takes Abilify 15mg daily and Prozac 80mg daily. He has taken Prozac

for a number of years. He started Abilify several years ago when he was

no longer able to take stimulants. Up until about 4-5 years ago he was

slender (in fact in elementary school he was a “stick”). We have seen a huge

weight gain over the last 4-5 years to the point he is now markedly obese

(5’8” and 259 pounds). He also has metabolic syndrome which was diagnosed

about 3 years ago and takes Glucophage for this. We have had several

discussions with the pdoc in the last year or two about changing meds to see if

this would help with the weight issue; we have all resisted this as he has done

so well on the current combo. But, after seeing the GP yesterday for a

school physical I am very concerned. He has gained more weight – 11

pounds since March so I now feel we have no choice but to revisit the possibility

of changing his meds. While I know every child is different and reacts

differently to meds I was wanting some feedback on good combos that don’t cause

weight gain. Tyler’s diagnoses are ADHD (dx’d age 5) and Asperger’s (dx’d

age 15).

Thanks in

advance for your help.

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August 17, 2007

Unfortunately, we have tried to address his weight in several

ways. I took him to Weight Watchers for a while – initially he lost

13 pounds and then put it back on plus some. He lives with his dad and

his dad quit buying sodas and other unhealthy things. I also don’t

keep sodas or junk foods. We have talked to him about appropriate food

choices and have gotten very graphic about the medical consequences of

remaining obese (my husband is a general surgeon and I am a nurse). Food

is one of his obsessions and he thinks about it all the time. But, he is

going to a private school next year that doesn’t have a cafeteria so will

have to take his lunch – we will use this opportunity to our advantage.

We also try to get him to exercise but the sad truth is that he has gotten so

big that he can’t tolerate much exertion. I did tell his dad that

we have got to make him move – start out walking 5-10 minutes daily for a

week and then bump it up weekly in 5 minutes increments.

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Behalf Of Liz Bohn

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 6:32 PM

Subject: Re: ( ) Medication question

,

Is it possible for him to remain on the Abilify and pay very

close attention to his diet? The reason I'm asking is that I take Zyprexa,

another med in the same class as Abilify, and I gained 50 pounds while on it.

Once I came to my senses, I started watching what I was eating. So far, I've

lost 30 pounds. Just an idle thought. Undoubtedly my circumstances are

different from his. (The first one being that I'm not a 1;7 year old boy!)

Liz

On Aug 16, 2007, at 3:43 PM, wrote:

My 17 year old son takes Abilify 15mg daily and Prozac 80mg

daily. He has taken Prozac for a number of years. He started

Abilify several years ago when he was no longer able to take stimulants.

Up until about 4-5 years ago he was slender (in fact in elementary school he

was a “stick”). We have seen a huge weight gain over

the last 4-5 years to the point he is now markedly obese (5’8” and

259 pounds). He also has metabolic syndrome which was diagnosed about 3

years ago and takes Glucophage for this. We have had several discussions

with the pdoc in the last year or two about changing meds to see if this would

help with the weight issue; we have all resisted this as he has done so well on

the current combo. But, after seeing the GP yesterday for a school

physical I am very concerned. He has gained more weight – 11 pounds

since March so I now feel we have no choice but to revisit the possibility of

changing his meds. While I know every child is different and reacts

differently to meds I was wanting some feedback on good combos that don’t

cause weight gain. Tyler’s diagnoses are ADHD (dx’d age 5)

and Asperger’s (dx’d age 15).

Thanks in advance for your help.

August 17, 2007

Thanks for the info. I will do a search tonight.

From:

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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:23 PM

Subject: ( ) Re: Medication question

Hi, do a google search for SSRI and weight gain

(if I had more time