Medication question

[Guest guest]

Cool! I would make sure (obviously) you find one with experience with

your child's age group.

Curious, what else are you doing for it?

Correy

On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:42 PM, jen leahy wrote:

> Yes, he uses 3 pillows at night. We haven't tried a chiro., but

> maybe we should

> give it a try.

>

> Re: Re: Medication question

>

> How old is your child? A chiro might be able to help you. I can't

> remember the name of the nerve, but when a child is born sometimes it

> gets disturbed. This can cause reflux.with a few adjustments, if this

> is the case, can help or cure it.

>

> Have you done a lot of research. Example...sleeping on an incline etc?

>

> correy

> On Oct 1, 2008, at 9:58 PM, jen leahy wrote:

>

> > This is a bit off topic but I was wondering if anyone knows of

> > a natural remedy for a child that may have acid reflux?

> >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

What Le said!

The International Chiropractic Pediatric Association has a search

engine where you can find a pediatric chiro in your area:

http://www.icpa4kids.org/

Good article on GERD and chiropractic:

http://www.worldchiropracticalliance.org/tcj/2004/nov/loomis.htm

Chriopractic is a good idea for the overall health and wellness of

your child (and you, for that matter!).

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:58 PM, jen leahy <jenleahy@...> wrote:

> This is a bit off topic but I was wondering if anyone knows of

> a natural remedy for a child that may have acid reflux?

[Guest guest]

Our son had reflux badly enough to stop him sleeping, we saw a cranio-sacral

therapist who

worked wonders. He slept for 8 hours straight the night after he saw her a 2nd

time. He was

about 6 weeks at the time. Also, sleeping in a car seat or swing may help.

> This is a bit off topic but I was wondering if anyone knows of

> a natural remedy for a child that may have acid reflux?

>

[Guest guest]

You could try putting the baby in a bouncy seat for sleeping. I used

to have rock one of my twins in a bouncy with my toe :oP to put one of

them to sleep while I nursed the other. Worked like a charm and I've

heard of it working for reflux (although we didn't have that problem).

Sorry to hear you are having reflux problems. -Arlynn

[Guest guest]

Check the product info sheet the pharmacy gave you with the meds .

From: bainofmyexistance <bainofmyexistance@...>

Subject: Medication Question

spinal problems

Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 1:27 PM

I have refused narcotic pain relief until my visit with the pain doctor on

Thursday. He gave me a prescription for Vicoprophen. I took one this morning,

and about an hour after taking it I had a very severe low blood sugar attack. I

usually have some warning symptoms that occur beforehand, but today it just came

out of the blue. Do some narcotics have that effect?

[Guest guest]

Once you have looked at the package insert to see if that's one of the side

effects (drugs.com does not list it as one though, and I think they get their

info from the drug manufacturer), I would call your doc and ask if this med can

cause lowering of your blood sugar - narcotics do weird things to some people

that are not listed as a side effect. You can also call your pharmacist - they

know a lot about drugs and have good books to look them up in.

Have you taken it again since?

Jenn

[Guest guest]

Once you have looked at the package insert to see if that's one of the side

effects (drugs.com does not list it as one though, and I think they get their

info from the drug manufacturer), I would call your doc and ask if this med can

cause lowering of your blood sugar - narcotics do weird things to some people

that are not listed as a side effect. You can also call your pharmacist - they

know a lot about drugs and have good books to look them up in.

Have you taken it again since?

Jenn

[Guest guest]

I didn't get the first part of the message, but if you are asking about

narcotics having an effect on blood sugar...the answer is yes...absolutely they

can affect blood sugar levels in diabetics in particular. ---

From: <sessions.jennifer@...>

Subject: Re: Medication Question

spinal problems

Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 2:00 PM

Once you have looked at the package insert to see if that's one of the side

effects (drugs.com does not list it as one though, and I think they get their

info from the drug manufacturer) , I would call your doc and ask if this med can

cause lowering of your blood sugar - narcotics do weird things to some people

that are not listed as a side effect. You can also call your pharmacist - they

know a lot about drugs and have good books to look them up in.

Have you taken it again since?

Jenn

[Guest guest]

I didn't get the first part of the message, but if you are asking about

narcotics having an effect on blood sugar...the answer is yes...absolutely they

can affect blood sugar levels in diabetics in particular. ---

From: <sessions.jennifer@...>

Subject: Re: Medication Question

spinal problems

Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 2:00 PM

Once you have looked at the package insert to see if that's one of the side

effects (drugs.com does not list it as one though, and I think they get their

info from the drug manufacturer) , I would call your doc and ask if this med can

cause lowering of your blood sugar - narcotics do weird things to some people

that are not listed as a side effect. You can also call your pharmacist - they

know a lot about drugs and have good books to look them up in.

Have you taken it again since?

Jenn

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

In what way does the narcotics affect a diabetic? Make it go up or down?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

 

Well I was under the impression that narcotics and synthetic narcotics can make

blood suger harder to control, mainly through lowering the sugar. I know I

looked up Tramadol and blood sugar effects once for a patient...but damn I have

been looking all over the internet for something that talks about it and I'm not

finding anything.I have had several patients tell me they cannot take narcotics

for pain as they have diabetes and their endo says no, can effect sugars.  I'll

try to do some more research...

 

Deb??? Do you know anything about this effect???

 

---

From: Jim & <_JM@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Medication Question

spinal problems

Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:08 PM

Hi ,

In what way does the narcotics affect a diabetic? Make it go up or down?

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tracey,

I haven't heard anything on it until now from you guys. I had my sugar finally

under control after losing some weight but after being put on Lyrica, I started

gaining weight and they put me on more insulin which also causes me to gain

weight and my sugar is back in the 200-300 range again. He told me to start

taking 2 shots a day. I already take 1 (50 units of Levmir) shot per day and 2

pills (1 januvia and 1 glimpiride) and he wants to take another shot (starting

with 20 units and going up to 50). I know that will make me gain even more

weight. And now my new pain doc has me on 2 lyricas, 2 neurontins and 2 7.5

lortabs. My fasting sugar this morning was 217. I am stopping the neurontin as I

do good to take the 2 lyricas without my head getting crazy. Actually I like

just taking the 1 lyrica a day and the 2 lortabs. But I still have lots of nerve

pain with the 1 but at least my head is not spinning. I don't know what the

perfect cocktail will be but I guess he'll keep tweaking it until just right.

The weight thing is a downer. I've gained 40 lbs back and I know I've got to get

it off to get this sugar down. I was just thinking if the lortabs bring it down,

at least that's a positive thing about taking it besides the pain relief. Let me

know if you find out anything on it.

[Guest guest]

Will do ...keep your chin up...and try to walk!

---

From: Jim & <_JM@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Medication Question

spinal problems

Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 9:39 PM

Thanks Tracey,

I haven't heard anything on it until now from you guys. I had my sugar finally

under control after losing some weight but after being put on Lyrica, I started

gaining weight and they put me on more insulin which also causes me to gain

weight and my sugar is back in the 200-300 range again. He told me to start

taking 2 shots a day. I already take 1 (50 units of Levmir) shot per day and 2

pills (1 januvia and 1 glimpiride) and he wants to take another shot (starting

with 20 units and going up to 50). I know that will make me gain even more

weight. And now my new pain doc has me on 2 lyricas, 2 neurontins and 2 7.5

lortabs. My fasting sugar this morning was 217. I am stopping the neurontin as I

do good to take the 2 lyricas without my head getting crazy. Actually I like

just taking the 1 lyrica a day and the 2 lortabs. But I still have lots of nerve

pain with the 1 but at least my head is not spinning. I don't know what the

perfect cocktail will be but I

guess he'll keep tweaking it until just right. The weight thing is a downer.

I've gained 40 lbs back and I know I've got to get it off to get this sugar

down. I was just thinking if the lortabs bring it down, at least that's a

positive thing about taking it besides the pain relief. Let me know if you find

out anything on it.

[Guest guest]

Hi , and welcome back, we have missed you. I have been following this

thread, and just wanted to say that sometimes the narcotics do in fact drop my

blood sugar down. I am a border line, I have to maintain taking the actoplusmet

in the morning, but I have been having to cut it in half, which brings it down

from around 300 to between 90-110, then if I'm not careful the pain meds cause's

it to bottom out, down past 80 and I am shaking, nausea, dizzy...etc.

I hope this helps

george

 

 

 

 

________________________________

From: Babbitt <tpowell1977@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 7:57:17 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Medication Question

Hi ,

 

Well I was under the impression that narcotics and synthetic narcotics can make

blood suger harder to control, mainly through lowering the sugar. I know I

looked up Tramadol and blood sugar effects once for a patient...but damn I have

been looking all over the internet for something that talks about it and I'm not

finding anything.I have had several patients tell me they cannot take narcotics

for pain as they have diabetes and their endo says no, can effect sugars..  I'll

try to do some more research...

 

Deb??? Do you know anything about this effect???

 

---

From: Jim & <_JMbellsouth (DOT) net>

Subject: Re: Re: Medication Question

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:08 PM

Hi ,

In what way does the narcotics affect a diabetic? Make it go up or down?

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks. I ran a drug interaction check before I filled the prescription, and

looked Vicoprophen up online. Hypoglycemia was not listed. I did google

Vicoprophen Hypoglycemia and found that it is, in fact, an unusual side effect.

I'm not diabetic. I have reactive hypoglycemia.

I took one again yesterday, followed up with a string cheese 45 minutes later,

and did not crash again. At least I know how to prevent it. It just scared me

coming on with no warning. I'll talk to my Dr. today.

Have a glorious day,

Thanks to all who responded.

>

> Once you have looked at the package insert to see if that's one of the side

effects (drugs.com does not list it as one though, and I think they get their

info from the drug manufacturer), I would call your doc and ask if this med can

cause lowering of your blood sugar - narcotics do weird things to some people

that are not listed as a side effect. You can also call your pharmacist - they

know a lot about drugs and have good books to look them up in.

>

> Have you taken it again since?

>

> Jenn

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks ..it does help. I was thinking I was going crazy. I'm now curious

as to why i couldn't find any litereature about this effect online, I only

looked for 20 min or so, but I expected it would be right off...

---

From: Jim & <_JM@bellsouth . net>

Subject: Re: Re: Medication Question

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:08 PM

Hi ,

In what way does the narcotics affect a diabetic? Make it go up or down?

[Guest guest]

I forgot to add in my post about this reaction, was that it happens when I am up

and doing something physically, the more physical it is the quicker it hits

me. Also depending on rather I've had something to eat lately. 

Bama,

 

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

 

  " It's simple really, animals love you in a way that people can't. " From: When

Night is Falling

________________________________

From: bainofmyexistance <bainofmyexistance@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 5:44:04 AM

Subject: Re: Medication Question

,

Thanks. I ran a drug interaction check before I filled the prescription, and

looked Vicoprophen up online. Hypoglycemia was not listed. I did google

Vicoprophen Hypoglycemia and found that it is, in fact, an unusual side effect.

I'm not diabetic. I have reactive hypoglycemia.

I took one again yesterday, followed up with a string cheese 45 minutes later,

and did not crash again. At least I know how to prevent it. It just scared me

coming on with no warning. I'll talk to my Dr. today.

Have a glorious day,

Thanks to all who responded.

>

> Once you have looked at the package insert to see if that's one of the side

effects (drugs.com does not list it as one though, and I think they get their

info from the drug manufacturer) , I would call your doc and ask if this med can

cause lowering of your blood sugar - narcotics do weird things to some people

that are not listed as a side effect. You can also call your pharmacist - they

know a lot about drugs and have good books to look them up in.

>

> Have you taken it again since?

>

> Jenn

>

[Guest guest]

That's the thing, , I was just sitting in a chair on the front porch,

watching my husband do yard work. Plus, I had enough protein in my breakfast

that I shouldn't have had low blood sugar. One moment I was fine, and then the

nausea, sweats, shaking, etc. My husband ran for the sugar quick. The last

time I had one that bad, my sugar was so low the monitor couldn't read it. I

just need to be sure to have some protein within 45 minutes of taking the pill.

>

> I forgot to add in my post about this reaction, was that it happens when I am

up and doing something physically, the more physical it is the quicker it hits

me. Also depending on rather I've had something to eat lately. 

>

>

>

> Bama,

>  

> The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

>  

>   " It's simple really, animals love you in a way that people can't. " From: When

Night is Falling

[Guest guest]

I don't know if you are a brittle diabetic, but that scenario doesn't sound

typical to me with narcotic effects of sugars. IF your have very unstable

sugars, then it may possibly do that, but that seems pretty dramatic from what

I've come to expect.

--

From: bainofmyexistance <bainofmyexistance@...>

Subject: Re: Medication Question

spinal problems

Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 10:27 AM

That's the thing, , I was just sitting in a chair on the front porch,

watching my husband do yard work. Plus, I had enough protein in my breakfast

that I shouldn't have had low blood sugar. One moment I was fine, and then the

nausea, sweats, shaking, etc. My husband ran for the sugar quick. The last time

I had one that bad, my sugar was so low the monitor couldn't read it. I just

need to be sure to have some protein within 45 minutes of taking the pill.

>

> I forgot to add in my post about this reaction, was that it happens when I am

up and doing something physically, the more physical it is the quicker it hits

me. Also depending on rather I've had something to eat lately. 

>

>

>

> Bama,

>  

> The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

>  

>   " It's simple really, animals love you in a way that people can't. " From: When

Night is Falling

[Guest guest]

Jeez , makes me wonder if your med is at the right dosage. That's what was

happening to me when I decided to cut mine in half. May I ask what you are

taking? My endo. has me on Actoplusmet 15/850mg, way to much for me, at that

dose I start feeling funny at about 80, and going down. One time it was about 68

and my DW said I really scared her, I was sweating, shaking...etc, that was it,

I've been cutting them in half ever since. Now I can tell you before I do a test

that it's between 90-110 every morning. I wouldn't suggest you doing the same

though, because that would be dangerous of course. It sure is mighty suspicious

though. My DW is a retired RN, with this kind of experience, and my mother is a

diabetic also, so we kinda have some experience with it.

It's really scary though isn't it? And I just hate that feeling when it starts

dropping.

Well, anyway, I hope you can get it straightened out, just be careful.

Bama,

 

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

 

  " It's simple really, animals love you in a way that people can't. " From: When

Night is Falling

________________________________

From: bainofmyexistance <bainofmyexistance@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 9:27:48 AM

Subject: Re: Medication Question

That's the thing, , I was just sitting in a chair on the front porch,

watching my husband do yard work. Plus, I had enough protein in my breakfast

that I shouldn't have had low blood sugar. One moment I was fine, and then the

nausea, sweats, shaking, etc. My husband ran for the sugar quick. The last time

I had one that bad, my sugar was so low the monitor couldn't read it. I just

need to be sure to have some protein within 45 minutes of taking the pill.

>

> I forgot to add in my post about this reaction, was that it happens when I am

up and doing something physically, the more physical it is the quicker it hits

me. Also depending on rather I've had something to eat lately. 

>

>

>

> Bama,

>  

> The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity,

but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

>  

>   " It's simple really, animals love you in a way that people can't. " From: When

Night is Falling

[Guest guest]

>

> I have refused narcotic pain relief until my visit with the pain doctor on

Thursday. He gave me a prescription for Vicoprophen. I took one this morning,

and about an hour after taking it I had a very severe low blood sugar attack. I

usually have some warning symptoms that occur beforehand, but today it just came

out of the blue. Do some narcotics have that effect?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Billie-Jo,

I don't post a lot either....but like you, I read a lot.   My daughter started

out on Naproxen when she was 4, and after time went by and that didn't work. 

They added Methotexate (pills, not shots) along with the Naproxen.  That really

helped her out a lot, and we saw a HUGE difference with those 2 meds.  However,

after several years of being on both of those, the doc noticed that it wasn't

working....so we then switched to the Enbrel Shots (2X a week).  She haated

those, and I hated giving them to her....so we finally tried the knee

injections, and those have been our life saver!   She is currently on no meds

and is feeling GREAT!

I hope that you find the right med's for your daughter to take. 

Helen

________________________________

From: Billie-jo Jary <Beamjary@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:03:40 AM

Subject: Medication Question

I don't post a lot... but I read a ton! My 11 year old daughter a has been

on Naproxen since last July. It has become apparent that it's not doing the

trick. My question is did your Dr's try another NSAID or change to another type

of medication or add something? I know every case is different but I'm trying to

prepare myself. We go back to the ped rheumy on the 26th..

Thank you!

Billie-jo

[Guest guest]

Hi Billie-jo - After 12 weeks of being on the Naproxen we added MTX to the mix

because the Naproxen just wasn't taking away all the inflammation. I think the

only reason they might change NSAIDS is if your daughter couldn't tolerate it or

had some reaction to it. Typically, I believe the next step is Methotrexate.

Hope this helps!'

& Grant (12, Psoriatic/Uveitis)

>

> I don't post a lot... but I read a ton! My 11 year old daughter a has

been on Naproxen since last July. It has become apparent that it's not doing

the trick. My question is did your Dr's try another NSAID or change to another

type of medication or add something? I know every case is different but I'm

trying to prepare myself. We go back to the ped rheumy on the 26th.

> Thank you!

> Billie-jo

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

My daughter Abby is pauci/ana + was placed on Naproxen for over a year and

when it didn't help and other joints became affected, I switched rheumys. He

immediately placed her on Methotrexate, a weekly injection. She has been on it

for ten months and appears to have no active disease at this time. There were

no side effects except for the trauma of the weekly injection. She has actually

dealt with pretty well. We had the option of the pill form, but the injections

are better. The absorption rate can vary with pill form. It will probably

depend on the situation and progressiveness of the arthritis. Fortunately at

this time, my daughter is not in pain and was taken off of the Naproxen as well.

The other rheumy had mentioned taking MXT with Naproxen, depends too on the

docs. They never mentioned taking another type of NSAID in our situation, just

as an addition to it.

>

> I don't post a lot... but I read a ton! My 11 year old daughter a has

been on Naproxen since last July. It has become apparent that it's not doing

the trick. My question is did your Dr's try another NSAID or change to another

type of medication or add something? I know every case is different but I'm

trying to prepare myself. We go back to the ped rheumy on the 26th.

> Thank you!

> Billie-jo

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Billie Jo,

The Dr's will try different medications if one does not work or there's

issues with the drug. When they have one or a combo that works they will

stick with that.

Robbin

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