Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Hi Pete, I don't know the Focus hardware you refer to, nor does Google seem to know it either. Can you direct me to a source of info? Thanks much, Larry Van Deusen wrote: > Forwarding a message that might be of interest to the group. Keep an > eye out for this and other " packaging " plans, which use readily > available software and hardware that can be matched by other less > costly alternatives, limit the options you would have if you bought > the software or hardware for yourself and then charge a lot more for it. > > " I've been running the EEG Spectrum Neurocybernetics software with the > old amp on a couple of 486s in DOS! They have served me well these > past twelve years and now I want to upgrade all the way around. I > purchased the Cygnet software and NeuroAmp in January for about $2K. > It was in " Beta " and had some bugs that made it difficult to run > daily in my clinic. I returned the whole package and told them I'd > wait until the final version. When they came out with the final > version, they jacked the price to $9K. " > > FYI, the NeuroAmp has specs about equivalent to the Focus ($570) and > Cygnet is a shell placed over BioEra software ($250). Those are > LIST prices--not what the manufacturer is paying, so you can calculate > for yourself the profit involved in selling--or forcing someone > to buy--these packages. > > Pete > > -- > Van Deusen > pvdtlc@... > http://www.brain-trainer.com <http://www.brain-trainer.com> > 305/433-3160 > The Learning Curve, Inc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Larry,Focus is a small two channel amp from QDS (eduardo rocatti) Powered by 9 volt battery. Same remarkable quality as all the other qds amps.http://www.qeeg.com.ar/ georgemartin@...www.northstarneurofeedback.com Hi Pete,I don't know the Focus hardware you refer to, nor does Google seem to know it either. Can you direct me to a source of info?Thanks much,Larry Van Deusen wrote: Forwarding a message that might be of interest to the group. Keep an eye out for this and other "packaging" plans, which use readily available software and hardware that can be matched by other less costly alternatives, limit the options you would have if you bought the software or hardware for yourself and then charge a lot more for it."I've been running the EEG Spectrum Neurocybernetics software with the old amp on a couple of 486s in DOS! They have served me well these past twelve years and now I want to upgrade all the way around. I purchased the Cygnet software and NeuroAmp in January for about $2K. It was in "Beta" and had some bugs that made it difficult to run daily in my clinic. I returned the whole package and told them I'd wait until the final version. When they came out with the final version, they jacked the price to $9K."FYI, the NeuroAmp has specs about equivalent to the Focus ($570) and Cygnet is a shell placed over BioEra software ($250). Those are LIST prices--not what the manufacturer is paying, so you can calculate for yourself the profit involved in selling--or forcing someone to buy--these packages.Pete-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@... http://www.brain-trainer.com <http://www.brain-trainer.com>305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Larry, we sell the Focus http://www.brain-trainer.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?shop=get_item & item_id=60. Foxx On Fri, 09 May 2008 09:37:13 -0400, Larry wrote > Hi Pete, > > I don't know the Focus hardware you refer to, nor does Google seem to > know it either. Can you direct me to a source of info? > > Thanks much, > > Larry > > Van Deusen wrote: > > Forwarding a message that might be of interest to the group. Keep an > > eye out for this and other " packaging " plans, which use readily > > available software and hardware that can be matched by other less > > costly alternatives, limit the options you would have if you bought > > the software or hardware for yourself and then charge a lot more for it. > > > > " I've been running the EEG Spectrum Neurocybernetics software with the > > old amp on a couple of 486s in DOS! They have served me well these > > past twelve years and now I want to upgrade all the way around. I > > purchased the Cygnet software and NeuroAmp in January for about $2K. > > It was in " Beta " and had some bugs that made it difficult to run > > daily in my clinic. I returned the whole package and told them I'd > > wait until the final version. When they came out with the final > > version, they jacked the price to $9K. " > > > > FYI, the NeuroAmp has specs about equivalent to the Focus ($570) and > > Cygnet is a shell placed over BioEra software ($250). Those are > > LIST prices--not what the manufacturer is paying, so you can calculate > > for yourself the profit involved in selling--or forcing someone > > to buy--these packages. > > > > Pete > > > > -- > > Van Deusen > > pvdtlcgmail <mailto:pvdtlcgmail> > > http://www.brain-trainer.com <http://www.brain-trainer.com> > > 305/433-3160 > > The Learning Curve, Inc. > > > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 With Bioexplorer I have used both the Neuroamp and a QDS amplifier and both have given me good results. I successfully used the exact same EEG INFO multiple inhibits 2 channel low frequency protocol on both amplifiers. Even before Cygnet, the Neuroamp was so much more expensive than the QDS amplifiers and not available to anyone who is a home trainer. I purchased the QDS ACCESS (2 channel model that preceded the Focus)for around $1100, and now Dr. Rocatti has developed the Focus for even less. At that time, the Neuroamp was about $1700 I think. The technical support provided by Dr. Rocatti is outstanding. He often answers my questions in real time. He has reviewed files and is always the willing teacher. > > Forwarding a message that might be of interest to the group. Keep an > > eye out for this and other " packaging " plans, which use readily > > available software and hardware that can be matched by other less > > costly alternatives, limit the options you would have if you bought > > the software or hardware for yourself and then charge a lot more for it. > > > > " I've been running the EEG Spectrum Neurocybernetics software with the > > old amp on a couple of 486s in DOS! They have served me well these > > past twelve years and now I want to upgrade all the way around. I > > purchased the Cygnet software and NeuroAmp in January for about $2K. > > It was in " Beta " and had some bugs that made it difficult to run > > daily in my clinic. I returned the whole package and told them I'd > > wait until the final version. When they came out with the final > > version, they jacked the price to $9K. " > > > > FYI, the NeuroAmp has specs about equivalent to the Focus ($570) and > > Cygnet is a shell placed over BioEra software ($250). Those are > > LIST prices--not what the manufacturer is paying, so you can calculate > > for yourself the profit involved in selling--or forcing someone > > to buy--these packages. > > > > Pete > > > > -- > > Van Deusen > > pvdtlc@... > > http://www.brain-trainer.com <http://www.brain-trainer.com> > > 305/433-3160 > > The Learning Curve, Inc. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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