Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Casler wrote: Train Hard, Stay Hungry and seek DOMS, Pérez asks: So you actively seek soreness? Do you think it is linked to muscle growth? Some people say it's irrelevant, or even undesirable. Me, I definitely like to be sore after a hard training session, although I do hate it when my hams or biceps are stiff and weak. Casler writes: Actually I was " joking " as per the " smiley face " after DOMS. The DOMS/EIMD I endure is the result of three factors: 1) My age, which certainly takes a toll on tissue strength and I would assume is in some early stage of sarcopenia 2) The Heavy Weights and High Reps I use with a focus on CAT style concentric and eccentric placing rather large and numerous high tensions on the muscle during each set. (example last week performed 260 x 20, 300 x 16, 340 x 10 in the pulldown, followed by DB Pullovers 100# x 28, followed by DB Rows 115# x 17, so my lats and back were a bit sore) 3) Training the same exercise only once in about 10 day cycles, which allows pretty much for complete recovery between bouts No I really don't suggest " seeking DOMS " as an indicator of the stimulus. However I was just questioning the " strange use " of the term " protective effect " . For example Vit C at a rather specific dose each day has a " protective effect " against scurvy. But the protective effect from DOMS " only " protects to a rather minimum level beyond current load/tension stimulus, and virtually " no effect " if one simply changes exercise. Again too much time on my hands. I could become the Andy Rooney of SuperTraining (heaven forbid) Regards, Casler TRI-VECTOR 3-D Force Systems Century City, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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