Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Again with the genetic determinism, easily discounting the endless hours of swimming, the years of dedicated training, the obsession with personal excellence. And, charming as ever, the none too subtle implication of cheating. I suppose Spitz cheated too? Phelps has been a preeminent swimmer for some time. World record holder at 15. Remember Athens and before? " As a young teenager, Phelps trained at the North Baltimore Aquatic Club under coach Bob Bowman. At the age of 15, Phelps competed at the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney, becoming the youngest American male swimmer at an Olympic Games in 68 years. While he did not win a medal, he was fifth in the 200 m Butterfly. Phelps proceeded to make a name for himself in swimming shortly thereafter. Five months after the Sydney Olympics, Phelps broke the world record in the 200 m butterfly to become, at 15 years and 9 months, the youngest man ever to set a swimming world record.[17] He then broke his own record at the World Championships in Fukuoka, Japan (1:54.58). At the 2002 Summer Nationals in Fort Lauderdale, Phelps also broke the world record for the 400 m individual medley and set American marks in the 100 m butterfly and the 200 m individual medley. In 2003, Phelps broke his own world record in the 400 m individual medley (4:09.09) and in June, he broke the world record in the 200 m individual medley (1:56.04). Then on July 7, 2004, Phelps broke his own world record again in the 400 m individual medley (4:08.41) during the U.S. trials for the 2004 Summer Olympics. In 2004, Phelps left North Baltimore Aquatic Club with Bob Bowman to train at the University of Michigan for Club Wolverine. " - Wikipedia Having trained some Olympians I can attest from personal experience, that most are loathe to cheat, they have too much pride. First most of them are genetically gifted to begin with. They posses superior physical capacities. Second they posses a burning desire to excel. No sacrifice is too great, no training program too rigorous, no diet too strict. Third they will themselves to power, they take natural ability and work much, much harder to develop it than normal people. Olympic athletes are the modern ubermensch, they are supermen, and they will not be denied. They are like Navy Seals, except they play a sport. They are way beyond normal, physically and mentally. If you had the opportunity to train some of the people I've had the privilege to work with, people like Tommy Gough, Weightlifter for the Marine Corps and 96 Olympian, or Zmelik '92 Olympic Decathlon Champion, Gail Castro '96 Olympic Beach Volleyball Team, Carl Heinkel, 96 Olympic Volleyball Team, Cook, Australian Beach Volleyball Team and 4 time Olympian with 1 Bronze (Atlanta) and 1 Gold (Sydney), now competing in Beijing, or Casey Burgener, who I consider an Olympian, you'd have a greater appreciation for the kind of person you're talking about. But you haven't and until you have I would appreciate it if you would avoid the cheesy, easy implication of cheating until you have some proof. Further, your vapid generalization that " Great genetics top diet by a longshot (sic)... " is still not valid. The example I've used before to refute your position is Karch Kiraly, who, at 6'2 " was one of the smaller Volleyball players of his era, but became the best Volleyball player in the world because he began playing at age 5, possesses tremendous analytical intelligence, passion for the sport and tremendous work ethic. Genetic mutants? Yes, they often are, but superior capacity is nothing without hard work, dedication, heart and an iron will. " The superman embraces this idea of change which to him appears evident, he understands the fact that since there is nothing in the world which is permanent whatever exists must eventually be overcome by something else which comes along. Seeing himself and his values in the same light he knows that these aspects must also be overcome by something stronger if not by him than by someone or something else. So in order to keep up with the times he continuously reinvents himself over and over always building something stronger, more powerful, on top of what went before. The superman therefore is the ideal of someone who has mastered the practice of overcoming himself. " What does not kill me, makes me stronger. - Friedrich Nietzsche The world itself is the will to power - and nothing else! And you yourself are the will to power - and nothing else! - Friedrich Nietzsche The higher a man gets, the smaller he seems to those who cannot fly. - Friedrich Nietzsche W.G. Ubermensch Sports Consultancy San Diego, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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