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Hi Ed,

You wrote;

> I am told that Curves gyms are equiped with iso-kinetic exercise

> equipment that offers concentric-concentric resistance and that the

> resistance is based on how hard the trainee pushes or pulls? Is

> that correct?

Telle -- yes

> How would you compare the results vs. concentric-eccentric training?

Telle --probably marginal when compared to inertial (actual weight)

training.

> Is there any concern about trainees not pushing or pulling their

> hardest?

Telle -- Yes

> Can they still get results if they don't do it their hardest?

Telle -- depends on their state of deconditioning. Some exercise is

better than none.

> What kind of feedback do the machines provide the trainees?

Telle -- none (I dont believe) unless they have the smarts to time

their efforts since the resistance is hydraulic which really isn't

isokinetic. Speed is a function of force -- the greater the force the

faster the speed -- thus greater forces ='s faster training times.

Jerry Telle

Lakewood CO USA

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The Curves Smart system measures force output, peak force, total work, etc like

a isokinetic dynanometer. Clients perform 3RM's to establish goal percent of

1RM's to perform. Participants then push hard enough to generate a green light

(i.e, over 70-75% of 1RM. If they don't push hard enough, a yellow or red light

is illuminated (too low of 1RM pecent). Each repetition of each exercise as

well as HR at two stations is recorded. The system automatically increases

required work to achieve new 1RM's from workout to workout. You can then see

how much work you did from exercise to exercise on each part of the body after

the workout. The benefits have been well-documented in a variety of

populations. There are over 4 million members at over 10,000 locations in 62

countries. There have also been lot's of copy cat/knock off attempts. While

some can argue that there are better ways to train, a program is not effective

if people won't follow it. Curves has clearly found a niche of people who want

to exercise and lose weight but haven't felt comfortable working out at

traditional gyms and/or have had little success following other weight loss

programs. Is it for everyone, no. However, millions of women have seen great

benefits from following the programs.

Rick Kreider

Professor & Head

Director, Exercise & Sport Nutrition Lab

A. and Joan Read Endowed Chair for Disadvantaged Youth

Department of Health & Kinesiology

Texas A & M University

http://esnl.tamu.edu

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From: Supertraining on behalf of Jerry Telle

Sent: Fri 11/28/2008 2:01 PM

To: Supertraining

Subject: Re: Isokinetics & Curves

Hi Ed,

You wrote;

> I am told that Curves gyms are equiped with iso-kinetic exercise

> equipment that offers concentric-concentric resistance and that the

> resistance is based on how hard the trainee pushes or pulls? Is

> that correct?

Telle -- yes

> How would you compare the results vs. concentric-eccentric training?

Telle --probably marginal when compared to inertial (actual weight)

training.

> Is there any concern about trainees not pushing or pulling their

> hardest?

Telle -- Yes

> Can they still get results if they don't do it their hardest?

Telle -- depends on their state of deconditioning. Some exercise is

better than none.

> What kind of feedback do the machines provide the trainees?

Telle -- none (I dont believe) unless they have the smarts to time

their efforts since the resistance is hydraulic which really isn't

isokinetic. Speed is a function of force -- the greater the force the

faster the speed -- thus greater forces ='s faster training times.

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