Re: Asked to move from handicapped parking

January 24, 2011

No! You have the disabled parking tag, the woman with the bunion doesn't. If she

needs that parking spot so bad (temporary ones can be issued) then she should

get one.

Go to HR and gently inform them about YOUR need. Perhaps since the other woman's

situation is temporary, she could park in Visitor's space or HR could make that

space into a disabled space.

G

January 24, 2011

Donna,

I would tell them that you have every right in parking in the handicapped

parking place. I would call the police and tell the police officer and he can

talk to that lady. That lady is lazy and if she does not have a handicapped

parking permit she can not park there.

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> I am floored! There are 2 handicap spots at work, 1 on the west end which is

where I have parked for over 2 years now. It is next to a ramp with a railing.

The other spot is in front of the building next to visitor parking, No railing,

and it's about a 75 ft walk across the drive to the front door. I always parked

on the west end, and always parks in the one by visitor parking because

it's closer to her building.

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> Another woman (not handicap), and does not have a handicap sticker just came

back from surgery after having a bunion removed. They asked me to stop parking

where I park, so she can start parking there. She is not in a wheelchair, and

has a walking boot on. Goes up & down the stairs to go out & smoke, but the are

telling me I need to give up the handicapped spot for her?

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> With the snow & ice, I NEED THAT RAILING. Am I being selfish? I terrified I'm

going to slip & fall without this railing I'm used to hanging on to.I got an

email from HR manager asking me to start parking in a visitors spot? Can they do

that??

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> Donna

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January 24, 2011

Donna,

The Hr manager can not do that. The american with disabiltys act .They are

discriminating against you and I would seek legal action.

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> I am floored! There are 2 handicap spots at work, 1 on the west end which is

where I have parked for over 2 years now. It is next to a ramp with a railing.

The other spot is in front of the building next to visitor parking, No railing,

and it's about a 75 ft walk across the drive to the front door. I always parked

on the west end, and always parks in the one by visitor parking because

it's closer to her building.

>

> Another woman (not handicap), and does not have a handicap sticker just came

back from surgery after having a bunion removed. They asked me to stop parking

where I park, so she can start parking there. She is not in a wheelchair, and

has a walking boot on. Goes up & down the stairs to go out & smoke, but the are

telling me I need to give up the handicapped spot for her?

>

> With the snow & ice, I NEED THAT RAILING. Am I being selfish? I terrified I'm

going to slip & fall without this railing I'm used to hanging on to.I got an

email from HR manager asking me to start parking in a visitors spot? Can they do

that??

>

> Donna

>

January 24, 2011

AHA! Donna, the plot thickens!

But it is a FACT that only people with a disabled parking tag or license plate

can park in designated zones for the disabled. If someone without a tag or

license does that here, they are ticketed and the fine is about $1,000.

No matter what, the HR Manager should disengage herself from allowing her " good

friend " from parking there without a permit. The HR manager could be fined as

well. So they've worked there longer, that's not the issue. The issue is the

right to park in the designated disabled parking zone because you have a chronic

disability.

http://www.ehow.com/about_4740444_ada-handicapped-parking-regulations.html

The woman who had bunion surgery does not have a disabled parking tag or plate.

If she gets one (even if it is temporary) then she could park there (or it would

be a showdown - whoever gets there first!)

Seriously the HR Manager needs to put the 25 year friendship aside, find another

way to allow Ms. Bunionectomy to park close, and get off your case. If not, go

to HR Manager's Supervisor. If there's still no resolution, mention ADA

Violation and Lawyer in the same sentence.

No you are not crazy. Do not let HR and Ms B's 25 year 'friendship' to stand in

the way of what is your Right.

Gretchen

her and the HR Manager are good friends. Over 25 years of working together, I've

been there 2. Guess I'm worried aboutÂ repercussions...

From: gfijig <gfijig@...>

Subject: Re: Asked to move from handicapped parking

Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 6:38 PM

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No! You have the disabled parking tag, the woman with the bunion doesn't.

If she needs that parking spot so bad (temporary ones can be issued) then she

should get one.

Go to HR and gently inform them about YOUR need. Perhaps since the other woman's

situation is temporary, she could park in Visitor's space or HR could make that

space into a disabled space.

G

January 25, 2011

Hi Donna, you are right and not being selfish at all. Your work should not even

of asked. The railing means more to you then they understand, we all understand

:-).

My 2 cents :-)

Asked to move from handicapped parking

I am floored! There are 2 handicap spots at work, 1 on the west end which is

where I have parked for over 2 years now. It is next to a ramp with a railing.

The other spot is in front of the building next to visitor parking, No railing,

and it's about a 75 ft walk across the drive to the front door. I always parked

on the west end, and always parks in the one by visitor parking because

it's closer to her building.

Another woman (not handicap), and does not have a handicap sticker just came

back from surgery after having a bunion removed. They asked me to stop parking

where I park, so she can start parking there. She is not in a wheelchair, and

has a walking boot on. Goes up & down the stairs to go out & smoke, but the are

telling me I need to give up the handicapped spot for her?

With the snow & ice, I NEED THAT RAILING. Am I being selfish? I terrified I'm

going to slip & fall without this railing I'm used to hanging on to.I got an

email from HR manager asking me to start parking in a visitors spot? Can they do

that??

Donna

January 25, 2011

Donna,

Wow your co worker is super selfish. This bunion really did her in. Good

thing she didn't have anything major to deal with.

I have done a lot of ADA research over the past two years and believe

that HR has done something illegal. You may need to contact the ADA.

January 25, 2011

Donns,

I would move for a day then call the cops and tell them she is parked

there. Just Sayin

Jen

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January 25, 2011

Donna,

They could add a second disabled spot. How hard would that be?

If you need a railing this is a safety issue. It is unfortunate that they have

made this so difficult for you.

Best wishes.

Chris

January 25, 2011

I agree with .Get a lawyer and tell the hr manager that you will not be

moving out of that parking spot. If they fire you.You got a big law suit against

them.Get a copy of the american with disabiltys act.I have one.

Hope this helps.Dont let them push you around.

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> Donna,

>

> Wow your co worker is super selfish. This bunion really did her in. Good

> thing she didn't have anything major to deal with.

>

> I have done a lot of ADA research over the past two years and believe

> that HR has done something illegal. You may need to contact the ADA.

>

January 25, 2011

Donna,

FWIW, It's easy to get emotionally aroused when we sense an injustice being

done, but sometimes the other party (in this case, HR) isn't being unjust or

mean, maybe just uninformed.

You've heard alot of people suggesting pulling out the big guns... ada regs,

threat of lawsuit, etc. Those could be necessary tools at some point, but, seems

to me, there are alot of intermediate steps you could take that would foster

dialogue and potentially foster better relationships than threats.

For instance, I would go to HR and ask them why they suggested that to you.

Perhaps they don't understand the nature of CMT and don't understand how

essential a handrail can be. I'd explain that calmly and rationally, and see

what happens. While they are probably wrong to ask a placard-carrying person to

absent the space, it makes sense to me on a relational level to keep good

feelings flowing with them, if possible. For the sake of well-being in the

future... the old " you catch more flies with honey " adage. And, I thought the

person who suggested adding a second space at that location had a GREAT idea...

a win/win for everybody.

As for the woman not having a placard, and just " disabled " from bunion surgery,

I can see why she would want to have easier access, too.

Please let us know how it turns out.

Lynna

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January 26, 2011

Donna,

I worked with such people myself. Working in a call center years ago, I was

told by HR that I should keep walking around looking for a seat when there was a

perfectly good one available. It just so happened that the head of HR was

friends with the girl who wanted to save the seat for someone who was coming in

2 HOURS later. That was one of the reasons, among many, I ended up miserable at

that place. I never stood up for myself.

is right. This must be solved right away and the ONLY WAY to do that is to

call the police. No one's going to help you internally. You must do it right

away or you'll keep getting walked all over like I did! MAYBE my mistake of not

standing up for myself can at least help you!

Dawn

January 26, 2011

I'm with everyone else- if she does not have tags, it is illegal for her to park

there. It's not about being selfish, it's about the law. You could say that

you do not want to see her fined because you are doing her a favor. She should

talk to her doctor about getting the red temporary tag. Otherwise you feel

terrible about potential trouble

They can always get a cone or stick and make a Reserved sign to put in the spot

next to the disability spot so she could have easier access to the building. I

bet that would work- designate an alternative, temporary spot for her.

I would be very 'selfish' and stand up for yourself- advocacy is not selfish .

Better to be proactive than injured .

Good luck! It's never easy! Best wishes, Lenka

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> No! You have the disabled parking tag, the woman with the bunion doesn't. If

she needs that parking spot so bad (temporary ones can be issued) then she

should get one.

>

> Go to HR and gently inform them about YOUR need. Perhaps since the other

woman's situation is temporary, she could park in Visitor's space or HR could

make that space into a disabled space.

>

> G

>

January 26, 2011

i must say i missed this conversation, and for that i appologize,but i can't see

why one disability would have precedence over another, if there is a handicap

placard then whomever had the card had obviosly taken the steps needed to get

one, and i don't know where or what state that is in,but here in NC we have to

have our dr sign off on it before getting a placard. did the person w/the bunion

have a placard?? i miss this all the way around again i do appologize... just

wondering?? i knowÂ for me, I DO have to have a handrail to get up ANY steps

now, so just saying... take care and GOD BLESS tracey... i don't know if i would

have moved or not, if the person was actually in a wheelchair, (to which i am

not thankfully) i would have moved i am pretty sure.. other than that i think

its fair game,b/c both were " handicapped " ..

From: Lynna <lynnanicholas@...>

Subject: Re: Asked to move from handicapped parking

Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 3:16 PM