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> My DS, , is not on the spectrum but has an undiagnosed

> sydrome. has microcephaly (small head due to a small brain),

> ptosis (droopy eyelids), low muscle tone,

For muscle tone, try giving amino acids especially carnitine. B12 can

also help, along with other B vitamins.

>> global developmental

> delays, clubfeet,

Clubfeet can be related to metal toxicity.

>> kidney issues, GERD, feeding issues, milk allergy,

GERD can be related to food intolerance, and not just milk. Enzymes

can help with this.

> nonverbal but know a dozen signs, severe constipation,

Constipation ideas

http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

>> global

> apraxia,

Cod liver oil helps a lot of kids with this.

>>petit mal siezures, very social (too social...he puts his

> arms out for strangers to hold him), cannot play on his own and

> demands constant attention.

All these issues except seizures, describe my #4. These are ADHD

issues. My #4 required anti-virals to help with these issues, altho

other ADHD kids need other things. Phenol intolerance is a big one

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

> I have looked into seeing a DAN doctor because is nonverbal

> and I'm interested in the B12 shots.

You can use oral/sublingual mB12, that is what I used for my kids, and

no doctor is required. On this page I wrote the other things my son

needed for language

http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

> I'm concerned about being on Mirilax to keep him regular. If

> we even miss one dose of Mirilax, he won't have a BM for at least 3

> days which affects his appetite (which is another huge issue). I

> have recently read some scary articles about Mirilax and want him

> off of it.

Here is the info I have

http://www.danasview.net/miralax.htm

Try the ideas from my constipation page, see if any of those help.

For my kids, magnesium was the key.

>>He still gets a good portion of his

> calories and nutrition from drinking Stage 2 formula from a bottle

> (we have no idea how to stop the bottle).

Gradually dilute it more and more, so he is not getting as many

calories from the bottle. And if it is milk or soy in the bottle, add

a sprinkle of AFP Peptizyde, see if that helps

http://www.houstonni.com/

Dana

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Hi there,

Your son seems to have a great deal of issues and is would be tough to figure

out where to start. I am just getting into enzymes and cant offer advice ther,

but I think that your son might be greatly helped by chiropractic and/or

osteopathy or cranial sacral therapy.

My son has been seeing a chiropractor for several months. Initially it was

twice weekly and then once weekly and now every other week. He has had really

positive effects in his gross and fine motor skills, sensory issues have

improved and bilateral issues are almost gone. For example he could not us

scissors to cut or blow bubbles nor could he jump with two feet at the same

time. Now he can do all of these things and they all came about during his

chiropractic treatment automatically.

My nephew is seeing an ostepath for his muscle problems in his eyes (they cross)

and it is improving tremendously. Apparently they see him every other week or

even once a month so it is not that intense. This is adjusting the shape of his

facial structure. Its really neat to see the results.

Just something to consider mainly for your son's pallette and foot issues.

Good luck and progress can be made you just have to look around every corner.

Elaine

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....My lastest interest is in exploring the differnces between probiotics

> to help people (and myself) understand the differnces between common

> everyday probiotics...

Ed,

A hearty welcome. You may also wish to join theMirobial Nutrition list:

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Hi, Ed!

Have you read Sandor Katz's " Wild Fermentation " ? I LOVE that book!

Also " Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers " which is about as much about

herbs as beers.

I believe kimchi according to the directions in " Wild Fermentation "

cured my candida in short order.

Pictures of ferments is a wonderful idea! Some get scary looking

but still taste good! It makes me wish I'd taken a picture of my

wild plum t'ej while it was still bubbling like crazy.

>

> Hi, please allow me to introduce myself. I am Ed Kasper LAc.

Licensed

> Acupuncturist & Herbalist in Santa Cruz, CA. I focus on

probiotics

> both as a treatment for restoring health as well as a prevenative.

> And especially as a source for people to regain control of their

own

> health destiny.

>

> My lastest interest is in exploring the differnces between

probiotics

> to help people (and myself) understand the differnces between

common

> everyday probiotics. Within the lacto-ferment and acetic acid

> ferments there are severl overlaps. Even difficulties for home

> fermentors to realize the differnce. For example between Kefir,

Water

> Kefir, Japanese Water Crystals, Tibicos, Ginegr Beer Plant and

> kombucha.

>

> Besides an active dialogue on these, I am looking for pictures of

> ferments along with comments, of any probiotic ferment - the good,

> the bad and the ugly.

>

> I appreciate all your help and wisdom and looking forward to a

> healthy relationship.

>

> Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist

> Acupuncture is a jab well done

> www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA.

>

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Thanks to all for the warm welcome.

Books are a great source and I have quite a few. But the

internet adds value and IMO enable many more to take part.

With many people having digital cameras even on their cell

phones and the ease of sending them as emails can really

make fermenting easier and not so frightful. and before one

knows everybody be healthy...

live free and healthy

Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist & Medicinal Herbalist

http://HappyHerbalist.com

......original message ...................

Re: Introduction

Posted by: " haecklers " haecklers@... haecklers

Sun Sep 3, 2006 3:51 pm (PST)

Hi, Ed!

Have you read Sandor Katz's " Wild Fermentation " ? I LOVE that

book!

Also " Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers " which is about as

much about

herbs as beers.

I believe kimchi according to the directions in " Wild

Fermentation "

cured my candida in short order.

Pictures of ferments is a wonderful idea! Some get scary

looking

but still taste good! It makes me wish I'd taken a picture

of my

wild plum t'ej while it was still bubbling like crazy.

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Welcome Sara!!

What a wonderful Mommy you are to find a solution for Austin!!! I too had to be persistent w/ my drs to get the right treatment!

T tell if there is any facial asymmetry hold your baby up to the mirror and look at his face - if there is any it will be more noticeable this way.

Let us know how Monday goes!!!

JEN

Mommy to 4...and 1 more!!!!

Luli - Tort/Plagio - Hanger Band - CA

"Luli"

www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/jens5th/

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Hi Sara,

welcome to the group. you seem to know a lot already. i'm glad you've

found some help for Austin. My daughter is 8.5 mo and has been in her

starband for almost 4 mo. There are lots of moms/babies here who

started later & also had great results. From what I know I would

recommend the starband over the other 2 you mentioned. I would

probably also go with DOC over star if it were closer, but I agree the

drive is too much. I think most babies wear starbands from 3-6 mo

depending on severity and how fast they grow.

If your baby has tort you will probably also need physical therapy.

You said it has improved, but I'm not sure if it is gone. I would have

him evaluated again by a doctor that is knowledgeable about tort.

My daughter didn't have a CT scan, but many do. I think it will just

depend if the doctor your seeing has doubts if it is strictly plagio

or could also be cranio. they can often tell from the head shape and

their experience.

good luck to you and Austin. let us know how it goes monday.

-christine

mom to sydney/ 8.5 mo/ starband 5-31-06

>

> Hi, I just wanted to introduce myself and I also have a few

> questions. I want to apologize in advance for this being so long,

> but I have just been obsessed with getting help for my son and this

> board seems like the most knowledgeable and experienced that I have

> found so far.

>

> Our story:

> My son is 7 1/2 months old and is finally being evaluated for

> plagio. He has flattness on the right side and a " bulge " on the

> left. He was born 4 weeks early and always turned his head to the

> right so I'm sure the softer skull from being born early had a lot

> to do with it. It didn't occur to me until recently but during my

> labor with him I pushed for 2 1/2 hours. During this time he

> was " stuck " under my pelvic bone and was turned sideways. A few

> hours after he was born I moved his hair back and the entire right

> side of his head was purple from the birth. I don't know if this

> had anything to do with the flattening but I thought it might

> somehow be related.

>

> At about six weeks we noticed the flattening and like so many

> stories that I've read our ped told us that it would round out on

> its own once he was off his head more. This made sense to me. But

> when he got to be about 5 months and it was getting even worse we

> started aggressive repo and about a month and a half later it still

> had hadn't improved. I then pushed it with her again and she acted

> like I was crazy for mentioning a " helmet " and she said she couldn't

> figure out why any child would need that. I was absolutely shocked

> that she knew nothing about it and felt cheated that we had wasted

> those months because I trusted a doctor who wasn't even educated

> about plagio.

>

> At about 6 months I mentioned that he couldn't even turn his head to

> the left and his doctor had us start doing some neck stretching

> exercises and the condition improved almost immediately. Even

> though she never really diagnosed him with torticollis or even

> mentioned the term for that matter I now know that's what it was.

>

> Anyway, I then started non stop research so that I could figure out

> what needed to be done myself. I still wasn't sure whether he

> needed a helmet or not because it wasn't obvious to other people

> unless I had pointed it out and he doesn't have any facial assymetry

> (as far as I can tell) other than slight ear misalignment. But when

> I came across a group " untreated plagio " and saw pictures of

> kids who were 3 years old up to 8 years old whose heads looked just

> the same as my son I realized that there was a good chance that it

> was not going to correct itself. When I read about how much guilt

> and hearbreak they were dealing with because they hadn't done

> something when their children were younger I knew that I absolutely

> had to demand treatment.

>

> I finally found a doctor in my area who specializes in this and we

> have an appointment with her on Monday (YEAH!). I'm really hoping

> that she will just write the prescription and we won't have to waste

> anymore time than we already have. I was also so excited to find

> out that there is an orthotist in my city who does STARbands. When

> I asked about the level of experience the orthotist had with banding

> she kind of laughed and said that he had 4 patients right now. I

> said " he only has 4 patients with bands " and she said " Oh, no. He

> has 4 in the waiting room right now. " So I feel really good about

> that. I really wanted my son to have a DOCband or a STARband as to

> my knowledge they are the main " active " orthotic devices (correct me

> if I'm wrong) and I really think this is what would be most helpful

> since we're starting so late. I would have preferred a DOCband

> because I've heard only wonderful things about them, but the closest

> location to us is 4 hours away and that is just not a trip that is

> possible for us to make every 2 weeks especially with a baby. The

> other options we have are a Danmar helmet and a Michigan

> molding helmet (made by the University of Michigan) and I don't

> really know if these would be better than a STARband or if it's the

> other way around.

>

>

> Anyway, I'd really appreciate it if you could answer some questions

> for me:

>

> Is there any other work up that should be done (like CT scans, etc.)

> before jumping right into the band?

>

> Can you tell me your experience with STARbands and any advice you

> have for me regarding them?

>

> From your experience are there advantages to the STARband over the

> other " helmets? " Which would be most effective?

>

> Have any of your children started treatment at this age (at least 8

> months before he's in the band) and still gotten good correction?

> How long were they in it?

>

>

> Thank you so much in advance for all the help.

>

> Sara

>

> Mom to Austin with plagio, born 02-03-06 (4 weeks early), hopefully

> in a STARband within the next few weeks

>

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Hello and welcome. It certainly sounds like you have done a good

amount of research and you got the ball rolling, which is great!

Good for you for being so proactive! :)

My Daughter wore a Hanger Band (which is very similar to the

STARband in the design and how it works). The real key to getting

good correction is an experienced Orthotist, which it sounds like

you have found. As long as the Orthotist has experience, the

STARband is a great product and will work just as well as any

other " active " band out there. There have been MANY babies out

there who started their bands around 8 or 9 months (many even later

than that) and they still got great correction. My Daughter got her

band at 7mo, 1wk and only wore it for 11 weeks. You may also want

to check out all the before and after pics in the photos section.

As far as a CT scan, some Doctors do require a CT scan and/or x-rays

be done before they will prescribe a band. Not all do this though.

The Drs that do order a CT do it so that they can rule out

craniosynostosis (premature fusing of the skull bones) before they

put a baby in a band, as a band would not help a baby with cranio.

My Daughter had a CT scan at 6 months and it was no big deal....

quick and easy.

Good luck with the appt and with getting the band. Keep us updated.

Jen :)

(25.5 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad

(4.5 years)

>

> Hi, I just wanted to introduce myself and I also have a few

> questions. I want to apologize in advance for this being so long,

> but I have just been obsessed with getting help for my son and

this

> board seems like the most knowledgeable and experienced that I

have

> found so far.

>

> Our story:

> My son is 7 1/2 months old and is finally being evaluated for

> plagio. He has flattness on the right side and a " bulge " on the

> left. He was born 4 weeks early and always turned his head to the

> right so I'm sure the softer skull from being born early had a lot

> to do with it. It didn't occur to me until recently but during my

> labor with him I pushed for 2 1/2 hours. During this time he

> was " stuck " under my pelvic bone and was turned sideways. A few

> hours after he was born I moved his hair back and the entire right

> side of his head was purple from the birth. I don't know if this

> had anything to do with the flattening but I thought it might

> somehow be related.

>

> At about six weeks we noticed the flattening and like so many

> stories that I've read our ped told us that it would round out on

> its own once he was off his head more. This made sense to me.

But

> when he got to be about 5 months and it was getting even worse we

> started aggressive repo and about a month and a half later it

still

> had hadn't improved. I then pushed it with her again and she

acted

> like I was crazy for mentioning a " helmet " and she said she

couldn't

> figure out why any child would need that. I was absolutely

shocked

> that she knew nothing about it and felt cheated that we had wasted

> those months because I trusted a doctor who wasn't even educated

> about plagio.

>

> At about 6 months I mentioned that he couldn't even turn his head

to

> the left and his doctor had us start doing some neck stretching

> exercises and the condition improved almost immediately. Even

> though she never really diagnosed him with torticollis or even

> mentioned the term for that matter I now know that's what it was.

>

> Anyway, I then started non stop research so that I could figure

out

> what needed to be done myself. I still wasn't sure whether he

> needed a helmet or not because it wasn't obvious to other people

> unless I had pointed it out and he doesn't have any facial

assymetry

> (as far as I can tell) other than slight ear misalignment. But

when

> I came across a group " untreated plagio " and saw pictures of

> kids who were 3 years old up to 8 years old whose heads looked

just

> the same as my son I realized that there was a good chance that it

> was not going to correct itself. When I read about how much guilt

> and hearbreak they were dealing with because they hadn't done

> something when their children were younger I knew that I

absolutely

> had to demand treatment.

>

> I finally found a doctor in my area who specializes in this and we

> have an appointment with her on Monday (YEAH!). I'm really hoping

> that she will just write the prescription and we won't have to

waste

> anymore time than we already have. I was also so excited to find

> out that there is an orthotist in my city who does STARbands.

When

> I asked about the level of experience the orthotist had with

banding

> she kind of laughed and said that he had 4 patients right now. I

> said " he only has 4 patients with bands " and she said " Oh, no. He

> has 4 in the waiting room right now. " So I feel really good about

> that. I really wanted my son to have a DOCband or a STARband as

to

> my knowledge they are the main " active " orthotic devices (correct

me

> if I'm wrong) and I really think this is what would be most

helpful

> since we're starting so late. I would have preferred a DOCband

> because I've heard only wonderful things about them, but the

closest

> location to us is 4 hours away and that is just not a trip that is

> possible for us to make every 2 weeks especially with a baby. The

> other options we have are a Danmar helmet and a Michigan

> molding helmet (made by the University of Michigan) and I don't

> really know if these would be better than a STARband or if it's

the

> other way around.

>

>

> Anyway, I'd really appreciate it if you could answer some

questions

> for me:

>

> Is there any other work up that should be done (like CT scans,

etc.)

> before jumping right into the band?

>

> Can you tell me your experience with STARbands and any advice you

> have for me regarding them?

>

> From your experience are there advantages to the STARband over the

> other " helmets? " Which would be most effective?

>

> Have any of your children started treatment at this age (at least

8

> months before he's in the band) and still gotten good correction?

> How long were they in it?

>

>

> Thank you so much in advance for all the help.

>

> Sara

>

> Mom to Austin with plagio, born 02-03-06 (4 weeks early),

hopefully

> in a STARband within the next few weeks

>

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Cheryl,

Welcome to the group... it¹s always good to have another mind on board! I

think you¹ll find great support here, and I¹m sure you¹ll have a lot to

contribute as well.

Caroline

From: Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...>

Reply-< >

Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:53:16 -0700

< >

Subject: Introduction

I just wanted to take the time to introduce myself. My name is

Cheryl and my son is Gryffin and he will be 3 in October. I have

just sent his medical records to Dr. G and I'm awaiting an

appointment. We live in Santa Clarita, CA. I have been lurking here

for about a month and I've already learned a lot about the

protocol from the list.

I've been researching since we started EI and I have found that Dr. G

seems to fit my ideas much better than any other. I obviously won't

know how much until I see him but I'm hopeful that we will see some

great things happen. My son is fortunate in that he is not very

severe and I, personally, question whether he is autistic at all. He

has made tremendous gains in the 5 or 6 months he's been in EI.

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You are so fortunate to have found out about Dr Goldberg when your

son is so young, and lucky you live so close!

>

> I just wanted to take the time to introduce myself. My name is

> Cheryl and my son is Gryffin and he will be 3 in October. I have

> just sent his medical records to Dr. G and I'm awaiting an

> appointment. We live in Santa Clarita, CA. I have been lurking

here

> for about a month and I've already learned a lot about the

> protocol from the list.

>

> I've been researching since we started EI and I have found that

Dr. G

> seems to fit my ideas much better than any other. I obviously

won't

> know how much until I see him but I'm hopeful that we will see

some

> great things happen. My son is fortunate in that he is not very

> severe and I, personally, question whether he is autistic at all.

He

> has made tremendous gains in the 5 or 6 months he's been in EI.

>

>

> Cheryl Lowrance (c.lowrance@...)

> Mom to Gryffin10/9/03 and Tynan 10/27/05

>

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Welcome Karyn!

You are in the right place! My daughter , 3, was suspected at 29

months and diagnosed at 31 months. She has made INCREDIBLE progress in

14 months, going from having a vocabulary of 5 words to speaking in 4

word sentences and having a vocabulary of about 600+ words (I've stopped

counting, actually). You'llfind great discussion and a lot of

knowledgable people around these parts :-)

Warm regards,

******************

(Rochester, NY)

Mom to , 3.4 years, Verbal Apraxia

& , 1.2 years (and babbling away!)

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of kvanryzin

Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:35 PM

Subject: [ ] introduction

I have recently subscribed to this list and just wanted to introduce

myself. My name is Karyn, wife to Ken and mom to three boys and due

to have a baby girl in Oct. We live in Wisconsin.

Our oldest son, is 17 years old. He has down syndrome in

addition to numerous other issues including PDD, apraxia and Sensory

integration issues. He is adopted and came to us when he was 8 years

old.

Next is , 5, he is pretty typical now but as an infant he had

feeding issues and had speech therapy from 3 months to 9 months of

age. He was a late talker which didn't surprise us and just in the

last year or so has caught up with his peers in speech. He just

started Kindergarten this month.

r is 2 years, 5 months old. His lack of speech caught me by

surprise. When he was almost 2 I realized that he was quite silent

(other than stomp his foot and yell " ah " )and the few words he had

weren't developing and he wasn't using speech to communicate. He is

now receiving EI services for an hour every other week. We taught him

sign lang and have worked hard on speaking. He is doing much better.

He now has consonant-vowel approximations for words and he is

labeling things in his environment with word approximations. Apraxia

has been suggested as an issue by his SLP but we both agree it is too

early with him to know.

As a parent it is very interesting to have seen speech issues from

different angles with each of our children. is still quite

difficult for strangers and acquaintances to understand and I have

grown used to being his interpreter. 's issues were more oral

motor and feeding which really resolved by one year and the rest we

monitored. And now r who wouldn't say anything and avoided

attempts if pushed.

Anyway, I look forward to asking questions and sharing ideas.

Karyn

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Thanks . r has made great progress already. I am trying to

prepare myself for the transition to the school district when he

turns three. I am unsure of what tests the district will want to do

and how to make sure that he isn't excluded from services since he is

fine with receptive language. Just has problems with expressive.

Thanks for the welcome.

Karyn

>

> Welcome Karyn!

>

> You are in the right place! My daughter , 3, was suspected

at 29

> months and diagnosed at 31 months. She has made INCREDIBLE

progress in

> 14 months, going from having a vocabulary of 5 words to speaking

in 4

> word sentences and having a vocabulary of about 600+ words (I've

stopped

> counting, actually). You'llfind great discussion and a lot of

> knowledgable people around these parts :-)

>

> Warm regards,

> ******************

> (Rochester, NY)

> Mom to , 3.4 years, Verbal Apraxia

> & , 1.2 years (and babbling away!)

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kvanryzin

> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:35 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] introduction

>

>

>

> I have recently subscribed to this list and just wanted to

introduce

> myself. My name is Karyn, wife to Ken and mom to three boys and due

> to have a baby girl in Oct. We live in Wisconsin.

> Our oldest son, is 17 years old. He has down syndrome in

> addition to numerous other issues including PDD, apraxia and

Sensory

> integration issues. He is adopted and came to us when he was 8

years

> old.

> Next is , 5, he is pretty typical now but as an infant he had

> feeding issues and had speech therapy from 3 months to 9 months of

> age. He was a late talker which didn't surprise us and just in the

> last year or so has caught up with his peers in speech. He just

> started Kindergarten this month.

> r is 2 years, 5 months old. His lack of speech caught me by

> surprise. When he was almost 2 I realized that he was quite silent

> (other than stomp his foot and yell " ah " )and the few words he had

> weren't developing and he wasn't using speech to communicate. He is

> now receiving EI services for an hour every other week. We taught

him

> sign lang and have worked hard on speaking. He is doing much

better.

> He now has consonant-vowel approximations for words and he is

> labeling things in his environment with word approximations.

Apraxia

> has been suggested as an issue by his SLP but we both agree it is

too

> early with him to know.

> As a parent it is very interesting to have seen speech issues from

> different angles with each of our children. is still quite

> difficult for strangers and acquaintances to understand and I have

> grown used to being his interpreter. 's issues were more oral

> motor and feeding which really resolved by one year and the rest we

> monitored. And now r who wouldn't say anything and avoided

> attempts if pushed.

> Anyway, I look forward to asking questions and sharing ideas.

>

> Karyn

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Welcome Karyn!

You are in the right place! My daughter , 3, was suspected at 29

months and diagnosed at 31 months. She has made INCREDIBLE progress in

14 months, going from having a vocabulary of 5 words to speaking in 4

word sentences and having a vocabulary of about 600+ words (I've stopped

counting, actually). You'llfind great discussion and a lot of

knowledgable people around these parts :-)

Warm regards,

******************

(Rochester, NY)

Mom to , 3.4 years, Verbal Apraxia

& , 1.2 years (and babbling away!)

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of kvanryzin

Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:35 PM

Subject: [ ] introduction

I have recently subscribed to this list and just wanted to introduce

myself. My name is Karyn, wife to Ken and mom to three boys and due

to have a baby girl in Oct. We live in Wisconsin.

Our oldest son, is 17 years old. He has down syndrome in

addition to numerous other issues including PDD, apraxia and Sensory

integration issues. He is adopted and came to us when he was 8 years

old.

Next is , 5, he is pretty typical now but as an infant he had

feeding issues and had speech therapy from 3 months to 9 months of

age. He was a late talker which didn't surprise us and just in the

last year or so has caught up with his peers in speech. He just

started Kindergarten this month.

r is 2 years, 5 months old. His lack of speech caught me by

surprise. When he was almost 2 I realized that he was quite silent

(other than stomp his foot and yell " ah " )and the few words he had

weren't developing and he wasn't using speech to communicate. He is

now receiving EI services for an hour every other week. We taught him

sign lang and have worked hard on speaking. He is doing much better.

He now has consonant-vowel approximations for words and he is

labeling things in his environment with word approximations. Apraxia

has been suggested as an issue by his SLP but we both agree it is too

early with him to know.

As a parent it is very interesting to have seen speech issues from

different angles with each of our children. is still quite

difficult for strangers and acquaintances to understand and I have

grown used to being his interpreter. 's issues were more oral

motor and feeding which really resolved by one year and the rest we

monitored. And now r who wouldn't say anything and avoided

attempts if pushed.

Anyway, I look forward to asking questions and sharing ideas.

Karyn

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Thanks . r has made great progress already. I am trying to

prepare myself for the transition to the school district when he

turns three. I am unsure of what tests the district will want to do

and how to make sure that he isn't excluded from services since he is

fine with receptive language. Just has problems with expressive.

Thanks for the welcome.

Karyn

>

> Welcome Karyn!

>

> You are in the right place! My daughter , 3, was suspected

at 29

> months and diagnosed at 31 months. She has made INCREDIBLE

progress in

> 14 months, going from having a vocabulary of 5 words to speaking

in 4

> word sentences and having a vocabulary of about 600+ words (I've

stopped

> counting, actually). You'llfind great discussion and a lot of

> knowledgable people around these parts :-)

>

> Warm regards,

> ******************

> (Rochester, NY)

> Mom to , 3.4 years, Verbal Apraxia

> & , 1.2 years (and babbling away!)

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kvanryzin

> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:35 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] introduction

>

>

>

> I have recently subscribed to this list and just wanted to

introduce

> myself. My name is Karyn, wife to Ken and mom to three boys and due

> to have a baby girl in Oct. We live in Wisconsin.

> Our oldest son, is 17 years old. He has down syndrome in

> addition to numerous other issues including PDD, apraxia and

Sensory

> integration issues. He is adopted and came to us when he was 8

years

> old.

> Next is , 5, he is pretty typical now but as an infant he had

> feeding issues and had speech therapy from 3 months to 9 months of

> age. He was a late talker which didn't surprise us and just in the

> last year or so has caught up with his peers in speech. He just

> started Kindergarten this month.

> r is 2 years, 5 months old. His lack of speech caught me by

> surprise. When he was almost 2 I realized that he was quite silent

> (other than stomp his foot and yell " ah " )and the few words he had

> weren't developing and he wasn't using speech to communicate. He is

> now receiving EI services for an hour every other week. We taught

him

> sign lang and have worked hard on speaking. He is doing much

better.

> He now has consonant-vowel approximations for words and he is

> labeling things in his environment with word approximations.

Apraxia

> has been suggested as an issue by his SLP but we both agree it is

too

> early with him to know.

> As a parent it is very interesting to have seen speech issues from

> different angles with each of our children. is still quite

> difficult for strangers and acquaintances to understand and I have

> grown used to being his interpreter. 's issues were more oral

> motor and feeding which really resolved by one year and the rest we

> monitored. And now r who wouldn't say anything and avoided

> attempts if pushed.

> Anyway, I look forward to asking questions and sharing ideas.

>

> Karyn

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Karyn-

We just went through that very same transition a few weeks ago.

is very age approrpriate receptively as well. Most apraxics are. You

don't need to have delays in both areas to qualify. has

continued with 4 x 30 speech (1:1) weekly and 2 x 30 OT (1:1) weekly.

Warm regards,

******************

(Rochester, NY)

Mom to , 3.4 years, Verbal Apraxia

& , 1.2 years (and babbling away!)

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of kvanryzin

Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 10:09 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: introduction

Thanks . r has made great progress already. I am trying to

prepare myself for the transition to the school district when he

turns three. I am unsure of what tests the district will want to do

and how to make sure that he isn't excluded from services since he is

fine with receptive language. Just has problems with expressive.

Thanks for the welcome.

Karyn

>

> Welcome Karyn!

>

> You are in the right place! My daughter , 3, was suspected

at 29

> months and diagnosed at 31 months. She has made INCREDIBLE

progress in

> 14 months, going from having a vocabulary of 5 words to speaking

in 4

> word sentences and having a vocabulary of about 600+ words (I've

stopped

> counting, actually). You'llfind great discussion and a lot of

> knowledgable people around these parts :-)

>

> Warm regards,

> ******************

> (Rochester, NY)

> Mom to , 3.4 years, Verbal Apraxia

> & , 1.2 years (and babbling away!)

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From:

<mailto: %40>

> [mailto:

<mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of kvanryzin

> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:35 PM

>

<mailto: %40>

> Subject: [ ] introduction

>

>

>

> I have recently subscribed to this list and just wanted to

introduce

> myself. My name is Karyn, wife to Ken and mom to three boys and due

> to have a baby girl in Oct. We live in Wisconsin.

> Our oldest son, is 17 years old. He has down syndrome in

> addition to numerous other issues including PDD, apraxia and

Sensory

> integration issues. He is adopted and came to us when he was 8

years

> old.

> Next is , 5, he is pretty typical now but as an infant he had

> feeding issues and had speech therapy from 3 months to 9 months of

> age. He was a late talker which didn't surprise us and just in the

> last year or so has caught up with his peers in speech. He just

> started Kindergarten this month.

> r is 2 years, 5 months old. His lack of speech caught me by

> surprise. When he was almost 2 I realized that he was quite silent

> (other than stomp his foot and yell " ah " )and the few words he had

> weren't developing and he wasn't using speech to communicate. He is

> now receiving EI services for an hour every other week. We taught

him

> sign lang and have worked hard on speaking. He is doing much

better.

> He now has consonant-vowel approximations for words and he is

> labeling things in his environment with word approximations.

Apraxia

> has been suggested as an issue by his SLP but we both agree it is

too

> early with him to know.

> As a parent it is very interesting to have seen speech issues from

> different angles with each of our children. is still quite

> difficult for strangers and acquaintances to understand and I have

> grown used to being his interpreter. 's issues were more oral

> motor and feeding which really resolved by one year and the rest we

> monitored. And now r who wouldn't say anything and avoided

> attempts if pushed.

> Anyway, I look forward to asking questions and sharing ideas.

>

> Karyn

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Karyn-

We just went through that very same transition a few weeks ago.

is very age approrpriate receptively as well. Most apraxics are. You

don't need to have delays in both areas to qualify. has

continued with 4 x 30 speech (1:1) weekly and 2 x 30 OT (1:1) weekly.

Warm regards,

******************

(Rochester, NY)

Mom to , 3.4 years, Verbal Apraxia

& , 1.2 years (and babbling away!)

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of kvanryzin

Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 10:09 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: introduction

Thanks . r has made great progress already. I am trying to

prepare myself for the transition to the school district when he

turns three. I am unsure of what tests the district will want to do

and how to make sure that he isn't excluded from services since he is

fine with receptive language. Just has problems with expressive.

Thanks for the welcome.

Karyn

>

> Welcome Karyn!

>

> You are in the right place! My daughter , 3, was suspected

at 29

> months and diagnosed at 31 months. She has made INCREDIBLE

progress in

> 14 months, going from having a vocabulary of 5 words to speaking

in 4

> word sentences and having a vocabulary of about 600+ words (I've

stopped

> counting, actually). You'llfind great discussion and a lot of

> knowledgable people around these parts :-)

>

> Warm regards,

> ******************

> (Rochester, NY)

> Mom to , 3.4 years, Verbal Apraxia

> & , 1.2 years (and babbling away!)

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From:

<mailto: %40>

> [mailto:

<mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of kvanryzin

> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:35 PM

>

<mailto: %40>

> Subject: [ ] introduction

>

>

>

> I have recently subscribed to this list and just wanted to

introduce

> myself. My name is Karyn, wife to Ken and mom to three boys and due

> to have a baby girl in Oct. We live in Wisconsin.

> Our oldest son, is 17 years old. He has down syndrome in

> addition to numerous other issues including PDD, apraxia and

Sensory

> integration issues. He is adopted and came to us when he was 8

years

> old.

> Next is , 5, he is pretty typical now but as an infant he had

> feeding issues and had speech therapy from 3 months to 9 months of

> age. He was a late talker which didn't surprise us and just in the

> last year or so has caught up with his peers in speech. He just

> started Kindergarten this month.

> r is 2 years, 5 months old. His lack of speech caught me by

> surprise. When he was almost 2 I realized that he was quite silent

> (other than stomp his foot and yell " ah " )and the few words he had

> weren't developing and he wasn't using speech to communicate. He is

> now receiving EI services for an hour every other week. We taught

him

> sign lang and have worked hard on speaking. He is doing much

better.

> He now has consonant-vowel approximations for words and he is

> labeling things in his environment with word approximations.

Apraxia

> has been suggested as an issue by his SLP but we both agree it is

too

> early with him to know.

> As a parent it is very interesting to have seen speech issues from

> different angles with each of our children. is still quite

> difficult for strangers and acquaintances to understand and I have

> grown used to being his interpreter. 's issues were more oral

> motor and feeding which really resolved by one year and the rest we

> monitored. And now r who wouldn't say anything and avoided

> attempts if pushed.

> Anyway, I look forward to asking questions and sharing ideas.

>

> Karyn

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Mine also has age-appropriate receptive language and a delay with

expressive.

> >

> > Welcome Karyn!

> >

> > You are in the right place! My daughter , 3, was

suspected

> at 29

> > months and diagnosed at 31 months. She has made INCREDIBLE

> progress in

> > 14 months, going from having a vocabulary of 5 words to speaking

> in 4

> > word sentences and having a vocabulary of about 600+ words (I've

> stopped

> > counting, actually). You'llfind great discussion and a lot of

> > knowledgable people around these parts :-)

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > ******************

> > (Rochester, NY)

> > Mom to , 3.4 years, Verbal Apraxia

> > & , 1.2 years (and babbling away!)

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From:

> <mailto: %40>

> > [mailto:

> <mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of

kvanryzin

> > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:35 PM

> >

> <mailto: %40>

> > Subject: [ ] introduction

> >

> >

> >

> > I have recently subscribed to this list and just wanted to

> introduce

> > myself. My name is Karyn, wife to Ken and mom to three boys and

due

> > to have a baby girl in Oct. We live in Wisconsin.

> > Our oldest son, is 17 years old. He has down syndrome in

> > addition to numerous other issues including PDD, apraxia and

> Sensory

> > integration issues. He is adopted and came to us when he was 8

> years

> > old.

> > Next is , 5, he is pretty typical now but as an infant he

had

> > feeding issues and had speech therapy from 3 months to 9 months

of

> > age. He was a late talker which didn't surprise us and just in

the

> > last year or so has caught up with his peers in speech. He just

> > started Kindergarten this month.

> > r is 2 years, 5 months old. His lack of speech caught me by

> > surprise. When he was almost 2 I realized that he was quite

silent

> > (other than stomp his foot and yell " ah " )and the few words he

had

> > weren't developing and he wasn't using speech to communicate. He

is

> > now receiving EI services for an hour every other week. We

taught

> him

> > sign lang and have worked hard on speaking. He is doing much

> better.

> > He now has consonant-vowel approximations for words and he is

> > labeling things in his environment with word approximations.

> Apraxia

> > has been suggested as an issue by his SLP but we both agree it

is

> too

> > early with him to know.

> > As a parent it is very interesting to have seen speech issues

from

> > different angles with each of our children. is still quite

> > difficult for strangers and acquaintances to understand and I

have

> > grown used to being his interpreter. 's issues were more

oral

> > motor and feeding which really resolved by one year and the rest

we

> > monitored. And now r who wouldn't say anything and avoided

> > attempts if pushed.

> > Anyway, I look forward to asking questions and sharing ideas.

> >

> > Karyn

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Mine also has age-appropriate receptive language and a delay with

expressive.

> >

> > Welcome Karyn!

> >

> > You are in the right place! My daughter , 3, was

suspected

> at 29

> > months and diagnosed at 31 months. She has made INCREDIBLE

> progress in

> > 14 months, going from having a vocabulary of 5 words to speaking

> in 4

> > word sentences and having a vocabulary of about 600+ words (I've

> stopped

> > counting, actually). You'llfind great discussion and a lot of

> > knowledgable people around these parts :-)

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > ******************

> > (Rochester, NY)

> > Mom to , 3.4 years, Verbal Apraxia

> > & , 1.2 years (and babbling away!)

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From:

> <mailto: %40>

> > [mailto:

> <mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of

kvanryzin

> > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:35 PM

> >

> <mailto: %40>

> > Subject: [ ] introduction

> >

> >

> >

> > I have recently subscribed to this list and just wanted to

> introduce

> > myself. My name is Karyn, wife to Ken and mom to three boys and

due

> > to have a baby girl in Oct. We live in Wisconsin.

> > Our oldest son, is 17 years old. He has down syndrome in

> > addition to numerous other issues including PDD, apraxia and

> Sensory

> > integration issues. He is adopted and came to us when he was 8

> years

> > old.

> > Next is , 5, he is pretty typical now but as an infant he

had

> > feeding issues and had speech therapy from 3 months to 9 months

of

> > age. He was a late talker which didn't surprise us and just in

the

> > last year or so has caught up with his peers in speech. He just

> > started Kindergarten this month.

> > r is 2 years, 5 months old. His lack of speech caught me by

> > surprise. When he was almost 2 I realized that he was quite

silent

> > (other than stomp his foot and yell " ah " )and the few words he

had

> > weren't developing and he wasn't using speech to communicate. He

is

> > now receiving EI services for an hour every other week. We

taught

> him

> > sign lang and have worked hard on speaking. He is doing much

> better.

> > He now has consonant-vowel approximations for words and he is

> > labeling things in his environment with word approximations.

> Apraxia

> > has been suggested as an issue by his SLP but we both agree it

is

> too

> > early with him to know.

> > As a parent it is very interesting to have seen speech issues

from

> > different angles with each of our children. is still quite

> > difficult for strangers and acquaintances to understand and I

have

> > grown used to being his interpreter. 's issues were more

oral

> > motor and feeding which really resolved by one year and the rest

we

> > monitored. And now r who wouldn't say anything and avoided

> > attempts if pushed.

> > Anyway, I look forward to asking questions and sharing ideas.

> >

> > Karyn

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi my name is and mu DH is . We have a 7 year old with speech

dyspraxia and would like any good advice we can get. She has speech at school

(but not really trained in dyspraxia ) and a private speech therapist she sees

once a week.What else can we do to help her? She say's less than 20 words and

so want to help her out. Thank you

L. R. PA

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Hi my name is and mu DH is . We have a 7 year old with speech

dyspraxia and would like any good advice we can get. She has speech at school

(but not really trained in dyspraxia ) and a private speech therapist she sees

once a week.What else can we do to help her? She say's less than 20 words and

so want to help her out. Thank you

L. R. PA

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Hi

I'm just wondering if you are in Australia as you use the name 'dyspraxia'

rather than 'apraxia'?

I have little information for you as I am very new to this myself (my almost 3yo

son has only just been diagnosed with verbal dyspraxia) but I have found these

posts very helpfull. I have started my son on the Omega's and Vitamin E as

discussed here and have had a little bit of improvement so far so I intend to

continue with them as from what I read, they cannot hurt to try. I have also

put my eldest son (6 with no dyspraxia) on the Omegas & E and have found it has

improved his reading and writing dramatically. It may be worth your reading

through previous posts to decide if you want to go this way too. Although we

have not started yet, I am told that my son will require intense speech therapy

(3-4 sessions a week) with a specialised " Dyspraxia " therapist. Is your private

therapist trained in this area as this is quite important? Are you able to

increase your sessions perhaps?

Sorry I'm not much help to you but I'm sure someone else here will be - keep

reading the posts as they can be quite helpful and if you have any questions,

I'd be pleased to try and help!

Katrina

Re: [ ] Introduction

Hi my name is and mu DH is . We have a 7 year old with speech

dyspraxia and would like any good advice we can get. She has speech at school

(but not really trained in dyspraxia ) and a private speech therapist she sees

once a week.What else can we do to help her? She say's less than 20 words and

so want to help her out. Thank you

L. R. PA

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Hi

I'm just wondering if you are in Australia as you use the name 'dyspraxia'

rather than 'apraxia'?

I have little information for you as I am very new to this myself (my almost 3yo

son has only just been diagnosed with verbal dyspraxia) but I have found these

posts very helpfull. I have started my son on the Omega's and Vitamin E as

discussed here and have had a little bit of improvement so far so I intend to

continue with them as from what I read, they cannot hurt to try. I have also

put my eldest son (6 with no dyspraxia) on the Omegas & E and have found it has

improved his reading and writing dramatically. It may be worth your reading

through previous posts to decide if you want to go this way too. Although we

have not started yet, I am told that my son will require intense speech therapy

(3-4 sessions a week) with a specialised " Dyspraxia " therapist. Is your private

therapist trained in this area as this is quite important? Are you able to

increase your sessions perhaps?

Sorry I'm not much help to you but I'm sure someone else here will be - keep

reading the posts as they can be quite helpful and if you have any questions,

I'd be pleased to try and help!

Katrina

Re: [ ] Introduction

Hi my name is and mu DH is . We have a 7 year old with speech

dyspraxia and would like any good advice we can get. She has speech at school

(but not really trained in dyspraxia ) and a private speech therapist she sees

once a week.What else can we do to help her? She say's less than 20 words and

so want to help her out. Thank you

L. R. PA

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Welcome!

I would suggest getting started by reading " The Late Talker " book. It's

filled with a lot of great information. You may also want to do a search in the

archives about Vitamin E, which many of us have just started and also " ProEfa "

by Nordic Naturals. In case you haven't heard of it it's fish oil combination

of Omega 3, 6, 9. Supplements are really helping these kids and there's a

wealth of knowledge on this list about which ones to try, what doses, etc. They

haven't helped all kids on the list but I would say a very large number.

There's also good information in the archives about making sure your speech

therapist knows how to treat apraxia. Ours used " PROMPT " and " Kaufman "

methods.. It's really important to have someone who knows how to work with

apraxia.

Hopefully these are some helpful suggestions,

Amy D

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Hi my name is and mu DH is . We have a 7 year old with speech

dyspraxia and would like any good advice we can get. She has speech at school

(but not really trained in dyspraxia ) and a private speech therapist she sees

once a week.What else can we do to help her? She say's less than 20 words and

so want to help her out. Thank you

L. R. PA

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Welcome!

I would suggest getting started by reading " The Late Talker " book. It's

filled with a lot of great information. You may also want to do a search in the

archives about Vitamin E, which many of us have just started and also " ProEfa "

by Nordic Naturals. In case you haven't heard of it it's fish oil combination

of Omega 3, 6, 9. Supplements are really helping these kids and there's a

wealth of knowledge on this list about which ones to try, what doses, etc. They

haven't helped all kids on the list but I would say a very large number.

There's also good information in the archives about making sure your speech

therapist knows how to treat apraxia. Ours used " PROMPT " and " Kaufman "

methods.. It's really important to have someone who knows how to work with

apraxia.

Hopefully these are some helpful suggestions,

Amy D

Re: [ ] Introduction

Hi my name is and mu DH is . We have a 7 year old with speech

dyspraxia and would like any good advice we can get. She has speech at school

(but not really trained in dyspraxia ) and a private speech therapist she sees

once a week.What else can we do to help her? She say's less than 20 words and

so want to help her out. Thank you

L. R. PA

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Go to this site and call these people and they can tell you where you

closest AS place is and what you will need. They are wonderful!

Now they are local for us, but Ithey can tell you what is near for you.

http://www.mitchells-place.com

Take Care,

Josie

-- ( ) Introduction

Hi, I have been reading posts for about a week now and you all have

already helped me.

I have a 5 year old son . We had him evaluated last fall by

Regional Center for AS and they said no he is fine and sent us on

our way. Of course we knew he wasn't fine but most of his behavior

only became obvious at home not school. He has been on Abilify for

over a year because of violent meltdowns.

This fall he started K and things are not going well at all. He has

been sent home several times already and we have barely made it

through the first month of school. He is in private school though

so Regional Center doesn't want anything to do with him.

We want to have him evaluated by someone else because we really feel

he is AS plus it runs heavily in dh's family. DS has two cousins

diagnosed with AS plus numerous undiagnosed relatives.

We found out that a Neuropsyche eval. would cost between $2500 and

$5000. That is a lot of money plus they told us that more than

likely it would not be covered by our insurance. Can anyone tell me

if that is a ok price range for an eval.? Did anyone else's

insurance cover the eval?

Part of me is so convinced he is AS that I think maybe we don't need

an eval but then after them saying he wasn't AS last year there is

always that doubt in my mind. For awhile I was looking at

possibility of Bi-Polar but it doesn't really run in our family and

he can be hyper but not really manic I don't think.

Any thoughts would be appreciated,

Hilery

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