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, Thank you for this sight. Do you live in Oregon? Cheerfully, Myra

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Hi Myra-

I live in the middle of the USA, in the Middle of Kansas in the middle of

nowhere! 15 to 30 miles in any direction to a town. I hope noone discovers

that Kansas has vacancies!

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Tornado alley?

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I just wondered how you got an Oregon Address. Please be careful in the

tornado alley ok. We need to keep good people on this earth. Cheerfully,

Myra

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Yes, Kansas is " infamous " for it's tornadoes. Last May, the same night the

F6 tornado hit Oklahoma City, several tornadoes also hit Wichita, about 60

miles from us. We witness nearly one major storm per year somewhere in the

near vacinity. Scarry--but true. I guess each area has its own natural

disasters to bear. At least with hurricanes, there is usually warning, but

with tornadoes, there is often little, if any--so when the spring skies

begin to blacken, we all try to keep a little more tuned and be alert to

take cover.

We live on a hill in the country and have great distance visibility--and

often see the storms forming, the funnels touching down, etc. The clouds

that spawn them are usually very darkblue-green and bulbous--.

They call this " tornado alley " because the strip through OKC to Salina

Kansas seem to have the most frequent hits with the storms.

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<< I hope noone discovers

that Kansas has vacancies! >>

Hi , I live in Sioux Falls, SD, and Money Magazine made the mistake of

voting it 'best place to live' in '92, now it seems we're elbow to elbow

people, and they won't go back home! Now it's not even in the top ten

anymore. ;)

Marilyn~

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I was just wondering if anyone has had any skin related problems since being

diagnosed.

If you have please describe. I have been suffering for a very long time with

skin

infenctions that I cannot seem to get rid of.

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> Hi , I live in Sioux Falls, SD, and Money Magazine made the mistake of

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Sometimes skin problems, especially a persistent rash on the hands, is a

sign that the bowel is not properly cleansing.

Russ

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>I was just wondering if anyone has had any skin related problems since

being diagnosed.

>If you have please describe. I have been suffering for a very long time

with skin

>infenctions that I cannot seem to get rid of.

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On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Martha Undercoffer wrote:

> The question was asked is reason that dwarfism receives less money,

> due to number of dwarfs being lower than other disability or area of

> need who receive money? My hypothesis was that reason we do not

> receive as much money as other groups is due to the fact that we do

> not demand it.

I would agree with this hypothesis before reading your excellent proof.

> To prove my hypothesis I compared the statical number of people

> genetically effected by dwarfism, and the number of missing and

> exploited children, assisted or recovered by the National Center for

> Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC), with the annual budgets of

> NCMEC and LPA.

I'm curious why you chose the NCMEC. I'm not saying it's a bad choice but

it seems to the uneducated reader that one might choose a group that is

more similar to LPA, i.e. a group that supports roughly the same number of

people affected with a common medical condition.

> Now for the financial truth in the United States we have 57,500 to

> 187,500 individuals genetically effected by dwarfism, LPA's Annual

> Budget is $106,024, that equates to $.57 to $1.84 being spent on each

> member of this population.

>

> Compare that to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children

> numbers from their annual report - A annual budget of $15,902,227 and

> they assisted in 76,939 cases (this number includes 51,492 children

> who were recovered) this equals $206.69 per assist child or $308.83

> per recovered child.

My dwarfism calculations actually come out to $.54 and $1.77, but I'm

nitpicking. I see your point. But it seems that if you want to provide an

accurate comparison of the number of individuals positively affected by

each organization, a dollar figure should also be calculated for the

number of registered members of LPA in addition to the entire estimated

dwarf population. Based on 's recent post of the number of

HOUSEHOLDS registered - around 6,500 - for argument's sake I am going to

double it to get an estimate of the number of registered LPA members -

13,000. If you calculate the amount spent on each member of LPA, you still

only come out with $8.16. That's still paltry compared to the NCMEC.

> If we equated these numbers to people genetically effect by dwarfism

> the annual budget of LPA would be from $11,884,675 to $38,754,375.

And would equate to an average per-MEMBER amount of about $1,200! Just

think, we could all go to national for FREE! In CANCUN! Every year!

We gotta get off the schneid and onto the charity bandwagon. Cocktails

await.

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Thank you for your reply. As for why I chose NCMEC as a comparative study it is

three fold.

1) Its something the general population can understand. All adults can relate

to the terror that is felt when a child they know is missing and/or exploited.

For example: My sister-in-law is an ex-MP, and she follows every precaution

concerning this subject with her children. When I point out the static of this

ever happening to one of them, her answer is always " What if mine is the one " ,

and I have to agree with her.

I felt that if I take a medical number then, it is kind of a them vs. us and

since I am not one of them - I'm not really interested.

2) I am talking to funders all the time, mainly about my clients' needs, however

as often as possible I try to discuss the needs of LPs. Most of the time, I get

one of two responses - 1) On the number issue " I didn't know there were that

many! " or 2) " We see it as a really good cause, however we are looking to get

the most bang for our buck, and your numbers don't allow us to meet that goal. "

Now with these numbers, I will be able to reply to these statements.

3) To be quite honest it was a quick and easy study. I knew exactly where I

could get the numbers, the study needed to be done quickly, due to the rapid

change of subjects on the list. Haven't you ever come back from vacation and

wanted to respond to a subject, but found it to be too late?

I hope as I am able can come across more data to extend the numbers to other

areas.

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On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Martha Undercoffer wrote:

> The question was asked is reason that dwarfism receives less money,

> due to number of dwarfs being lower than other disability or area of

> need who receive money? My hypothesis was that reason we do not

> receive as much money as other groups is due to the fact that we do

> not demand it.

I would agree with this hypothesis before reading your excellent proof.

> To prove my hypothesis I compared the statical number of people

> genetically effected by dwarfism, and the number of missing and

> exploited children, assisted or recovered by the National Center for

> Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC), with the annual budgets of

> NCMEC and LPA.

I'm curious why you chose the NCMEC. I'm not saying it's a bad choice but

it seems to the uneducated reader that one might choose a group that is

more similar to LPA, i.e. a group that supports roughly the same number of

people affected with a common medical condition.

> Now for the financial truth in the United States we have 57,500 to

> 187,500 individuals genetically effected by dwarfism, LPA's Annual

> Budget is $106,024, that equates to $.57 to $1.84 being spent on each

> member of this population.

>

> Compare that to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children

> numbers from their annual report - A annual budget of $15,902,227 and

> they assisted in 76,939 cases (this number includes 51,492 children

> who were recovered) this equals $206.69 per assist child or $308.83

> per recovered child.

My dwarfism calculations actually come out to $.54 and $1.77, but I'm

nitpicking. I see your point. But it seems that if you want to provide an

accurate comparison of the number of individuals positively affected by

each organization, a dollar figure should also be calculated for the

number of registered members of LPA in addition to the entire estimated

dwarf population. Based on 's recent post of the number of

HOUSEHOLDS registered - around 6,500 - for argument's sake I am going to

double it to get an estimate of the number of registered LPA members -

13,000. If you calculate the amount spent on each member of LPA, you still

only come out with $8.16. That's still paltry compared to the NCMEC.

> If we equated these numbers to people genetically effect by dwarfism

> the annual budget of LPA would be from $11,884,675 to $38,754,375.

And would equate to an average per-MEMBER amount of about $1,200! Just

think, we could all go to national for FREE! In CANCUN! Every year!

We gotta get off the schneid and onto the charity bandwagon. Cocktails

await.

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>At the National Vaccine Info site, there was a petition posted that

>linked prenatal mercury exposure to digestive and kidney problems. I

>can no longer locate that petition and really need her source on that

>information.

>

>Does anyone know anything about this or have any accredited research

>study information that links prenatal mercury exposure to digestive

>and kidney problems? If so, please let me know.

>

>Thanks.

>

>Lori

Hello Lori,

I do not know if this is helpful or not, but you can find a boatload

of research on mercury toxicity at Bernie Windham's website:

http://home.earthlink.net/~berniew1

Since there is so much content there, it may be more an issue of

finding what you are looking for.

There is also one part of one of Bernie's papers, about digestion,

which is posted in the files for this list.

/files/

It is not about PRENATAL mercury per se. It is about mercury disrrupting

digestion of casein and glutin.

Again, not sure if this helps or not.

best wishes,

Moria

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Dear Ed,

e sent me a copy of your posting about abstract that I sent to

her. I am pulling together some articles and research about double blinds

and control groups and placebo effects. When I have all of it together I

will send you a copy.

Actually the FDA has a policy on off-label uses of drugs and other

treatment modalities. In addition, the FDA requires the use of the

Declaration of Helsinki's guidelines be followed in both experimental and

clinical trials as it governs the use of double blind studies as well as

control studies. They of course still require double-blinded studies in

animal research on drugs and certain other types of therapies but as an

ethical matter in other well researched therapies the ethical issues involved

suggest that control group studies provide better and more information and

provide a more ethical approach to the subjects of the research. I am

suggesting that in many cases the use of double blind studies is not

necessary in the clinical research in HBOT nor would it be required by the

FDA.

Also, the use of placebo/sham groups as representing a true no

treatment effect has been attacked recently. There are many studies that

strongly suggest that these groups represent a treatment effect.

In addition to the abstract that was put on line there is another

review article by La Vaque in the Journal of Neurotherapy. It is

La Vaque, T.J. (2001). Pills, Politics, and Placebos. Journal of

Neurotherapy, 5 (1/2), 73-86.

If you live anywhere near a University Library that has Biofeedback

Journals you might find it interesting to read these articles and follow the

references in them to the FDA's stance on the Declaration of Helsinki.

Best regards to you, Frances

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Oh...and also the Edgar Cayce Foundation (Va. Beach, VA). Interesting and

different!

(Va.)

[Editor's Note: I remember this one from grad school (Psych); the little I do

remember suggests that one would be wise to maintain a healthy skepticism.

D.]

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Leonora,

My feet were my biggest problem too, now (other than a few slightly bent

toes) I can't even tell I ever had a problem. The things I tried before going on

drugs are:

1) daily stretches for the feet

2) Parafin baths every day

3) Keeping my feet WARM at all times

4) foot soaks each night in warm water

5) NEVER wearing heels

I think you can get the drift here... I TRIED EVERYTHING! My balls of my feet

would kill me, as would the sides and a few toe joints. It would KILL me to

go up and down stairs and there were many days where I would limp. I know this

isn't what you want to hear, but the ONLY THING that took this pain away for

me was Enbrel. I even wear heels now and guess what... I CAN RUN!!!! It has

been a LONG WHILE since I have spent a day limping around in pain and felt that

huge know under the ball of my foot.

This is all the info I can give on this, but I do know where you are coming

from.

Age 29/PA since 22

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> Also, I am interested in hearing from people who have tried things that

> have dramatically improved their lives and their pain factor, whether it be

> medical treatment, physical therapy, a clinical study, or alternative

medicine. I

> would be particularly interested in hearing from people who were able to

> " cure " extremely painful feet, as that is my primary problem.

>

> Thanks,

> Leonora

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Pain in the balls of my feet was one of the worst PA symptoms I've

had. I had been a waitress for years, but this started about

a year after I found another profession. It was very freaky--no

longer working on my feet and my feet hurt all the time.

Enbrel made all that go away. Some other PA pain and stiffness

certainly still remains, but the feet don't hardly hurt at all. And

that's a wonderful thing.

Andy

I would be particularly interested in hearing from people who were

able to " cure " extremely painful feet, as that is my primary problem.

>

> Thanks,

> Leonora

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leonoraseinfeld@... writes:

would be particularly interested in hearing from people who were able to

" cure " extremely painful feet, as that is my primary problem

Hi Leonora,

I haven't " cured " my feet, but here's what I do to make life more tolerable:

1. the right shoes...most comfortable for me are Dansko...they are actually

kind of in at the moment and are expensive but worth every penny. I first

found them because the chefs I work with wear them in the kitchen (on their feet

all day). I also like Born and s.

2. I try to take a bath at night or at least soak my feet in the tub

3. Get enough sleep...the pain for me is always worse when I am sleep

deprived

4. Massage and manipulate my feet when I wake up if they are hurting...my PT

taught me to pull on my toes and bend my foot into a u in both directions to

get fluid back into the joints

5. When they are really bad, I use a paraffin bath...I got a commercial one

that my doctor prescribed so insurance paid it (it was 160) and it fits my feet.

Hope that helps!

A

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In a message dated 2/25/2004 8:34:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,

a.ginsky@... writes:

Pain in the balls of my feet was one of the worst PA symptoms I've

had. I had been a waitress for years, but this started about

a year after I found another profession. It was very freaky--no

longer working on my feet and my feet hurt all the time.

I know what y ou mean. I have pain in the balls of my feet also. That is

one of the worst places. Someone also mentioned their ankles swelling. My knee

used to be the worst area but know the ankles swell up and are very painful.

However, before thinking that the swelling in the ankles in PA, make sure

that you are not retaining alot of water because that may be where it shows. I

know Vioxx can do that.

JANET

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my hubby checked out a book from library a cople of weeks ago. it was put out be

the arthritis fondation. the title is Alternative Therapies. There is alot of

useful information in there. i was very suprised at how many subjects were

discused in the book. I hope htis helps you in youur search. it comes highly

recommended. rachel

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Hi all, my name is and I am new to the

> group.

Hi , welcome to the group. I agree with you, it's

easy to find research on rheumatoid arthritis.

Psoriatic arthritis doesn't seem to be well known at

all - sometimes I find myself telling folks that I

have rheumatoid, just to avoid trying to explain

psoriatic. People just don't know about it.

I come from a family of psoriatic arthritis sufferers

and would be glad to participate in your survey and

research - anything to further the cause :) I'm age

45, diagnosed three years ago. Despite the use of

biologics from the beginning of my diagnosis, I suffer

daily and my joints continue to deteriorate as though

my body is on a mission to destroy whatever cartilage

it can find in my joints.

warm blessings,

jane

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I would be happy to help. I am in Charlotte, NC. What university are you at?

Ann Lucas

<kt2982@...> wrote: Hi all- my name is and I am a

lurker, I confess! I was diagnosed

with PA at age 17 (24 now) with the arthritis actually hitting first

and now some P but not too much...mostly my nails are affected. I

have been doing well lately in South Carolina, as the climate is warm-

cold bothers me more than almost anything else! I am finishing my

Master's degree in May and am doing some research on PA for it- I am

wondering if any of you would be interesting in filling out some

surveys to help me complete my research! They are about living with

PA and its effects on work/social functioning. If you are interested

in helping me out, please email me at kt2982@... . I would

really appreciate any volunteers- the surveys shouldnt take more than

30 minutes or so to fill out, and of course your answers are

confidential! Thanks so much- if anyone has any questions please

email me!

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Hello ,

I am very willing to participate in your survey, especially if you

will publish your findings (here, if nowhere else).

I, too, would like to know the University, your college, faculty

and/or department, as well as the professor under which you are

working.

Human subjects research methods and ethics committees can be daunting.

I will send a personal email as requested.

Brent

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Hey Gloria, and everyoneI ve been not feeling too good emotionally, and when that happens this may not be the place to communicate, i see in my absence has found someone else to attack their opinions, im sorry for that. Gloria I hope u are out of the funk, I work in a animal hospital and we see all the same stuff as in us humans, dark urine whether brown, red, is usally a sign of blood, sometimes OLD blood I would consider gettiing chkd for kidney stones. also porphyria will cause your urine to turn purple if in the sunlight, and this is aother side affect from hpc.Im sure you know , flush out your kidneys with water or cranberry juice. Hang in there . Its just another curveball in life There is a research org who is currently paying 400.00 for a telephone

research m not all are eligible, but they screen you o-t-p quickly i was not eligible because they want you to be on some tx currently. anyone interested it is www.baltimoreresearch.com or 410-583-9991 request to be screened for the burgundy study. I do not say this because 400.00 is helpful but more for the RESEARCH. isnt that why we all entered this site anyway As for

I stopped communicating and became a non-responded (AGAIN) lol, i mean on this site because i only want positivity in my thoughts. I read back on my postings to you in the past when i too responded to your negativity and when i read them i actually thought "I SAID THAT" you might do the same to reflect on how we express ourselves in frustation to each other, sometimes not so good. so i take this time to aplolgize for any mis-understanding we may have had in text-and say that i can tell from your anger that you too are sufferring. We all are, and should not lash out at each other but to each other. Non of us are the know-all but just maybe we each have something to offer.I pray that lets go of that anger to enable herself to heal and help others do the same. Gloria , Canada sounds beautififull, taking a ferry sounds like fun., By the way I think dog is pregnant we wont know for sure for about 2 more

weeks. I should keep one and name it Squirt lol. Also thanks for the large font my eyes got exteremly bad after treatment. I did not need glasses at all untill about two months post treatment, so i sincerely appreciate it. It makes it easier and faster to read thru about 100 posting a day. May your day be bright joyfull and happy!!

betty

From: Gloria <gadamscan@...> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 1:08:39 AMSubject: Re: [ ] urine therapy was Anti-biotics and HCV....big mistake???

I so totally agree with you on all points. My pharmacist knows me by name and so do many of the staff. I trust them to keep an eye on my meds vs my liver. Not that I want any more; but, if I were be prescribed a new med, I'd ask at the pharmacy what effects it will have to my liver first and then any other warnings. Probably because I do not use a big chain store, I feel that my pharmacist and his staff are watching out for my best interest.Gloria

If I may be allowed to interject a comment here.

Each of us needs to manage our own health care.

The doctors and nurses work for us. We are the boss.

Anyone who blindly follows the doctor sooner or later ends

up dead.

One other thing I found out from years working in a pharmacy

is that many doctors don't know squat about drugs. If you want

to talk to someone about a drug ask your pharmacist, don't ask your doctor.

The doctor likely will regurgitate whatever the drug rep who pushed that

particular drug told them to say.

Saw an interesting movie about the corruption of big pharma last night

The Constant Gardener about how big pharma was using the people of Africa

as guinea pigs for their new drugs and even killed over it. Of course it's "fiction."'

But it sure seemed plausable.‹(•¿•)› Ress Felton, CA"Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well." (The Book of Proverbs 5:15)

From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: [ ] urine therapy was Anti-biotics and HCV....big mistake??? Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 7:53 PM

I am trying my absolute best to ignore your posts but sometimes it's just about impossible.You are welcome to drink your own urine and it won't bother me at all. I'm not going to spend any time researching something that my mind and body can not fathom except in the purely negative. So, you do what you are comfortable with and I'll do the same.I have to ask though - how do justify lecturing about cigarette smoking when you "have" to drive into town to pick up your Methadone scripts??? Are you going to try to tell me that Methadone is not addictive and in fact, more so than Heroin?? Surely to heavens there must be a much better natural source, for whatever you have to use it for, than driving to town to pick up a script that wires you both physically and mentally. Even legal pot would be a much better choice. Hell, even street pot would be better!!For me, I do not plan to get

wired to any medications, until the times comes, if it ever does, that I just don't care anymore that I'm addicted. Meaning, that I'm close to the end of life !! I will and am, wide open to eating better although I hardly eat now and my body already tells me what it wants and doesn't want. I still work part-time at least and do not have the time nor the energy to research every funky thing I've seen posted on any of these sites, that I already know I would not have the least interest in trying. So, once again , stop with the lectures - they do no good for anyone !!! Then, perhaps you would have more time to research why you would have allowed yourself to get wired to Methadone and still justify going after anyone else for their addiction of choice???Gloria

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