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One possibility is that tone training allows a maturing in persons who are

developmentally stuck. There is a frequently noted tendency for even adults

who have abusive backgrounds to have a rather child-like voice. Perhaps the

voice shifts more toward an adult voice (deeper and fuller might sound

hoarse).

Just a thought.

Pete

Voice changes

Has anyone ever heard voice changes in NFB training. Specifically

doing tone training T3/T4 rewarding 7-10, inhibit theta/hi-beta,

gives tone " relief " , but on more than one occasion seemed to have

made the voice somwhat " hoarse " (no uncomfortability, just sound

change).

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Hi ,

I have been reading with interest the recent posts concerning those of us

being our best CMT experts. I was only diagnosed with CMT in September

2010, and it has been a steep learning curve for me, but I am learning alot

through the emails in this group and other reading on the internet- as well

as information from the neurologist I chose to see here in the USA

(specialist in neuropathies, but not CMT exclusive). I do agree that when

we deal with illnesses that are rare, or where no cure or treatment is

available, we often have to " find our own way " in seeing what works best for

us in management of symptoms.

In your recent post you mentioned you are having vocal problems, and I would

very much like to know what kind of problems you are having and if you think

they are caused by your CMT (and why you think that). I am having very

intermitant problems with my voice- mostly when I find myself talking too

long or in a situation where I am required to talk louder than normal. My

voice starts to sound strained, I need to clear my throat alot, and people

seem to be straining to understand what I am saying. It doesn't happen all

the time, but I am wondering if it is CMT related and what the correlation

would be.

Blessings,

Barb

South Africa

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Hi Barb,

It is well-known that CMT affects the vocal cords as well as the muscles of the

mouth and throat. Many people with CMT have trouble swallowing, and I have

trouble chewing difficult things like apples or bubblegum.

The muscles of my mouth are involved to the point where I cannot whistle nor can

I blow bubbles using bubblegum.When I am tired, it is easy to hear the increased

scratchy-Ness of my speech.

The situation you describe, where you have used your vocal cords intensely for a

long period of time, your voice will sound strained.I also have to clear my

throat quite often.I do believe that is having problems with Dragon

Dictate because of the changes in her voice over a given period of time, such

that when she is not fatigued, the model works better for her than when she is

fatigued.

Dragon Dictate, at least on the Macintosh, is the best product I have seen so

far in terms of speech recognition. It is tremendously helpful, to me, but the

basic voice model which should provide about 90% to 95% accuracy is improved

upon by use of the program. After each use of the program, the model is modified

based upon new information the program has gathered about the way you speak

during the most recent dictation session.

and others must practice shutting off the program when they're finished

using it, or at least at the end of the day, so that the model continues to be

built. Also using the correction processes as described by the program to

correct mistakes it makes will improve the model, according to people who have

used previous versions of the program which was formerly called MacSpeech.

But the fundamental reason why and others are having difficulty with

speech is because CMT is well known to affect the muscles of the voice box and

throat, mouth, and lips.

I hope that helps.

Yours,

tn Feb 28, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Barb Bartz wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> I have been reading with interest the recent posts concerning those of us

> being our best CMT experts. I was only diagnosed with CMT in September

> 2010, and it has been a steep learning curve for me, but I am learning alot

> through the emails in this group and other reading on the internet- as well

> as information from the neurologist I chose to see here in the USA

> (specialist in neuropathies, but not CMT exclusive). I do agree that when

> we deal with illnesses that are rare, or where no cure or treatment is

> available, we often have to " find our own way " in seeing what works best for

> us in management of symptoms.

>

> In your recent post you mentioned you are having vocal problems, and I would

> very much like to know what kind of problems you are having and if you think

> they are caused by your CMT (and why you think that). I am having very

> intermitant problems with my voice- mostly when I find myself talking too

> long or in a situation where I am required to talk louder than normal. My

> voice starts to sound strained, I need to clear my throat alot, and people

> seem to be straining to understand what I am saying. It doesn't happen all

> the time, but I am wondering if it is CMT related and what the correlation

> would be.

>

> Blessings,

>

> Barb

> South Africa

>

>

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