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Have been lurking lately, too sick to respond but the anger,rage thread has

me interested.

My 15 year old who is supposedly in remission after 2 bouts has changed so

dramatically over the past 3 months. He even almost threw a chair at a

teacher today. He came to us a few weeks ago in tears saying he is scared

of the anger he feels. His friends have changed, old ones don't want to be

with him. It is Jekyl/Hyde with him.. GP put him on Amatrax for the rage

and Zoloft but he has app't next week with brain guy that handles other son.

I think his lyme is back so am gonna do LUAT. But he is so mad and refuses

to do it. He is so scared of Lyme after what older brother went through

(OCD, brain damage, etc.). Will let you all know what happens. Am gonna

share the post from Snadra about her hubbie with him.

Sharon - Hunterdon County, NJ

Chronic Lyme since 1989

Son - Mike,20, neurolyme since 1995 @ college, sees Fallon

Daughter - Christie,19,chronic lyme since 1996- remission

Son - Dan,15, 2nd remission?

Hubbie - EM 12/1/99

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hi sharon,

i am sorry you are feeling so bad.

it is very hard to deal with our kid's anger if we could feel well.

i know there are times when my son, daughter and i can all be struggling

with anger and we just feed the fire of each other.

i hope you can get the help you need.

http://members.xoom.com/LDANJ/ldanj009.htm

this page can not be cut and pasted. it should be helpful with dealing with

your school.

health,

kay

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I also have a problem with anger. I feel like I am always about to explode.

It is most evident with my family so it is really hard for me to deal with.

I don't want to be angry at my children all the time for no reason. I have

heard that there is a correlation between the liver and anger. Maybe we

need to cleanse the liver to release some of that anger.

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Thanks for your input. Liver cleanse is next, after

bowel, I'll keep you updated and please likewise. PS

I purposefully am not married and have no children

because I have not had the energy or pleasant

disposition to deal with all that. Sometimes, it's

all I can do to get home from work. I often think how

on earth could I take care of kids? Good luck to you.

Matty

--- Geoffroy <MIchellecmc@...>

wrote:

> From: Geoffroy <MIchellecmc@...>

>

> I also have a problem with anger. I feel like I am

> always about to explode.

> It is most evident with my family so it is really

> hard for me to deal with.

> I don't want to be angry at my children all the time

> for no reason. I have

> heard that there is a correlation between the liver

> and anger. Maybe we

> need to cleanse the liver to release some of that

> anger.

>

>

>

> ---------------------------

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In a message dated 00-02-01 08:13:27 EST, you write:

<< Aside from psychiatric medications, has anyone found improvements in

anger (or worsenings) during their Lyme treatment? Found anything that

helps it?

Sue

>>

Dear SUe & All,

Sorry for delay in responding. Tons of mail...

Seems flax oil helps. Also totally eliminating all stress from life. (We

did NOT do school at all 1st semester - not even homebound. Some think this

is awful, but it's most important to heal first - then worry about school

later for a few reasons. Now that she's gone back for 2 classes, she is flat

on back sick again...)

Hope this helps

CHris

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chris ....u are so right about stress.......but try to live without anyone

stressin u....

while i am on here now the wife is telling me about how i will have to repair

/replace some of the fence ( i use to have a fence business) i was like

.....hon theres snow on the ground why are u telling me this...... " oh i just

wanted u to know....great now i can let it bother me for a few months till i

can TRY to do it if i feel up 2 it.....i love her but....arghhhhhhhh just

leave me alone........i do not need to worry about all this crap.....i am

just trying to survive and that is hard enuff......shes nota lymie so shes

doesn't have a clue....

Reid

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In a message dated 2/5/00 11:38:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,

RMcmur3194@... writes:

<< i was like

....hon theres snow on the ground why are u telling me this...... " oh i just

wanted u to know....great now i can let it bother me for a few months till i

can TRY to do it if i feel up 2 it.....i love her but....arghhhhhhhh >>

geez...now instead of you understanding that a " Lyme Brain " often hears

something and forgets two seconds later...and that by telling you now...she

is hoping it can commit to your short term memory...so you will remember to

do it when the weather is clear...

you kvetch about her...and I can understand...but understand what living with

a " Lyme Brained " person is like and cut her a break.....and when she mentions

it a few times more..understand she knows you are going to forget...till

eventually it may sink in......if she doesn't start now to tell you...and

waits till the thaw...you will remember to do it after the ground is frozen

again 8 months later....what she is doing is " accommodating " to your

disability.......finding a way to get it registered in your brain for when

you CAN get it done when the ground is unfrozen :))))))

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In a message dated 2/5/00 11:38:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,

RMcmur3194@... writes:

<< .i do not need to worry about all this crap. >>

so she needs to worry all by herself?...or would you get mad if she hadn't

told you and you found out on your own...sounds as if she is damned if she

does...damned if she doesn't....

have you two been to the counselor lately? Bernadette

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Take a look at SAD (seasonal affective disorder) because staying indoors,

especially in winter can cause severe mood swings. I'm not suggesting

that Lyme is not primary problem but this can be an added aggravant.

Also Vegetarians should check their B12 level.

One more important thing I learned in the book COPING WITH LYME: It is

mentioned that ibupofren and other anti-inflamattory drugs can lower

anti-bodies count. (page 53 of revised edition). Therefore anyone

taking painkillers of this sort should consider this problem when testing

for anti-bodies.

It is also mentioned here that false positives can occur because of other

viruses that can reveal the same sort of antibodies on the Western Blot.

Sorry I have had computer problems and was offline for several days until

now.

Jim

Re: [Lyme-aid] Anger

>From: DobeLovr1@...

>

>In a message dated 00-02-01 08:13:27 EST, you write:

>

><< Aside from psychiatric medications, has anyone found improvements in

> anger (or worsenings) during their Lyme treatment? Found anything that

> helps it?

>

> Sue

> >>

>

>Dear SUe & All,

>

>Sorry for delay in responding. Tons of mail...

>

>Seems flax oil helps. Also totally eliminating all stress from life. (We

>did NOT do school at all 1st semester - not even homebound. Some think

this

>is awful, but it's most important to heal first - then worry about school

>later for a few reasons. Now that she's gone back for 2 classes, she is

flat

>on back sick again...)

>

>Hope this helps

>

>CHris

>

>---------------------------

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In a message dated 00-02-08 11:40:48 EST, you write:

<< It is also mentioned here that false positives can occur because of other

viruses that can reveal the same sort of antibodies on the Western Blot.

Sorry I have had computer problems and was offline for several days until

now.

Jim >>

Dear Jim & All,

Thanks for the info!

When daughter had + on antibody test (10/99), I called pathologist who did

the test & asked about false positives (not on WB - but antibody test) & he

told me that the only other organisms that could possibly cause a false

positive were other spirochetal organisms - syphillus, gum disease or

leptospirosis.

Is this not also true with WB - or is WB somehow different?

BTW - glad you're back online!

Blessings & velcros,

Chris

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Gail wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like people are more angry now

than ever; more sick, too!

I've noticed that since September 11 people have changed towards one another

- we're calmer. Like we're suddenly realizing we're in this thing together

and we don't have to be out to get eachother all the time. People seem

genuinely nicer and, in California, the courtesy of drivers has definitely

improved! It's just a shame that such a tragedy has to occur for people to

start respecting eachother. Rose

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Gail wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like people are more angry now

than ever; more sick, too!

I've noticed that since September 11 people have changed towards one another

- we're calmer. Like we're suddenly realizing we're in this thing together

and we don't have to be out to get eachother all the time. People seem

genuinely nicer and, in California, the courtesy of drivers has definitely

improved! It's just a shame that such a tragedy has to occur for people to

start respecting eachother. Rose

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In a message dated 11/2/2001 7:53:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,

gypsy___rose@... writes:

> It's just a shame that such a tragedy has to occur for people to

> start respecting each other.

>

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Yesterday I observed the Opposite of road rage in a large group of us from

northern Florida. In evening rush traffic, a semi-truck made the mistake of

taking a turn at a prime intersection too widely. He was caught up on the

median blocking the opposing lanes of traffic. I was back a ways in the

waiting traffic. I started backing up, the rest took my hint giving the

driver a large area to come on over and make a huge circle to correct his

error instead of trying to back up, etc. It took quite a while. It must

have been his first run in his new Hummer rig:-) We all sat quietly. No one

honked, hollered or anything. We were all quite civilized.

How refreshing ~!

Kate

Re: anger

> Gail wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like people are more angry now

> than ever; more sick, too!

>

> I've noticed that since September 11 people have changed towards one

another

> - we're calmer. Like we're suddenly realizing we're in this thing

together

> and we don't have to be out to get eachother all the time. People seem

> genuinely nicer and, in California, the courtesy of drivers has definitely

> improved! It's just a shame that such a tragedy has to occur for people

to

> start respecting eachother. Rose

>

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Yesterday I observed the Opposite of road rage in a large group of us from

northern Florida. In evening rush traffic, a semi-truck made the mistake of

taking a turn at a prime intersection too widely. He was caught up on the

median blocking the opposing lanes of traffic. I was back a ways in the

waiting traffic. I started backing up, the rest took my hint giving the

driver a large area to come on over and make a huge circle to correct his

error instead of trying to back up, etc. It took quite a while. It must

have been his first run in his new Hummer rig:-) We all sat quietly. No one

honked, hollered or anything. We were all quite civilized.

How refreshing ~!

Kate

Re: anger

> Gail wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like people are more angry now

> than ever; more sick, too!

>

> I've noticed that since September 11 people have changed towards one

another

> - we're calmer. Like we're suddenly realizing we're in this thing

together

> and we don't have to be out to get eachother all the time. People seem

> genuinely nicer and, in California, the courtesy of drivers has definitely

> improved! It's just a shame that such a tragedy has to occur for people

to

> start respecting eachother. Rose

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here

are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to

hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found

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or health care provider.

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Yesterday I observed the Opposite of road rage in a large group of us from

northern Florida. In evening rush traffic, a semi-truck made the mistake of

taking a turn at a prime intersection too widely. He was caught up on the

median blocking the opposing lanes of traffic. I was back a ways in the

waiting traffic. I started backing up, the rest took my hint giving the

driver a large area to come on over and make a huge circle to correct his

error instead of trying to back up, etc. It took quite a while. It must

have been his first run in his new Hummer rig:-) We all sat quietly. No one

honked, hollered or anything. We were all quite civilized.

How refreshing ~!

Kate

Re: anger

> Gail wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like people are more angry now

> than ever; more sick, too!

>

> I've noticed that since September 11 people have changed towards one

another

> - we're calmer. Like we're suddenly realizing we're in this thing

together

> and we don't have to be out to get eachother all the time. People seem

> genuinely nicer and, in California, the courtesy of drivers has definitely

> improved! It's just a shame that such a tragedy has to occur for people

to

> start respecting eachother. Rose

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here

are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

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we should all take a little more time to share stories like this!

: )

what a rarity!

Re: anger

>

>

> > Gail wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like people are more angry

now

> > than ever; more sick, too!

> >

> > I've noticed that since September 11 people have changed towards one

> another

> > - we're calmer. Like we're suddenly realizing we're in this thing

> together

> > and we don't have to be out to get eachother all the time. People seem

> > genuinely nicer and, in California, the courtesy of drivers has

definitely

> > improved! It's just a shame that such a tragedy has to occur for people

> to

> > start respecting eachother. Rose

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

> >

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

> other alternative self-help subjects.

> >

> > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >

> > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here

> are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

> information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at

your

> own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability

to

> take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to

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researcher

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Adrienne

The next time I get a cold nose, I'll check my ears. I have problems with my

left ear. It's not cold, but whenever I overdo it, it feels like someone stuffed

in a beach ball.

Anger can only exist if we make a judgment about something. If we don't judge we

have nothing to get angry about. Very difficult to do. To become aware of

judging, spend a day making a note of

every judgment you make and then try to come up with a non-judgmental,

neutral/supportive response. Not judging goes beyond being forgiving and

understanding, it's letting the Universe unfold as

it should. (paraphrasing from Course in Miracles)

Merle

duckblossm@... wrote:

> Very funny, Merle.

> Do you know anythiing about one cold ear. It is my right one. (No kidding).

> And... what is good for anger, do you know?

> Thanks,

> Adrienne

>

>

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