Antidepressants

[Guest guest]

Let me second getting off effexor, oh my gosh it was awful.

I started taking a B complex and just started EFAs, I feel so good (ok I

started exercising a little too, not much though)

But even before exercise I started the B complex and saw a difference in 2

days, my side effects coming off the effexor would go away about 2 hours

after taking the vitamin and stay gone for about 12 hours

About the sleep- I was put on effexor for depression caused by sleep

deprivation, this is something I couldn't change, or rather didn't know how

to fix, as it was my son who never slept, after putting him on GFCF diet it

was much better. His sleep schedule is still less than to be desired but at

least now I can cope since I started the B and the EFA

[ ] Re: antidepressants

I always went OFF my antidepressants before getting pregnant, although I WAS

on them when I got pregnant with my first (an " oops " ). I say do whatever

you can to stay off of them, but in the long run you might need to make a

tough decision and take some Zoloft.

I will tell you this: I went off of my last (and will always be my

last!) antidepressant 2 months ago. It was HELL coming off of Effexor. 6

months prior to going off meds, I started taking Omega 3 fatty acids

religiously. I feel better OFF of antidepressants than I ever did ON them.

I credit the EFAs 110%.

I use Nordic Naturals Complete Omega. I think it was Dr. Mercola who stated

he thought many cases of Autism could be prevented if expectant moms took

EFAs before and during pregnancy/nursing. Don't know if it can be that

simple, but the essential fatty acids are certainly deficient in our diets.

I have a great friend who took Zoloft while pregnant with 2 of her 3 kids.

Both are not Autistic. They do have a speech issue. Her oldest also had

some small issues with speech clarity, so it is likely not the Zoloft.

I suppose you aren't asking if zoloft can cause Autism.

Exercise, eat well, take EFAs and get proper amounts of sleep.

Unless you are at risk for hurting yourself or others, I'd advocate staying

away from antidepressants.

Pam

>

> Has anyone on this group ever taken antidepressants while

pregnant?

> I am extremely depressed!! Nothing is working for me at all!! My

OB

> wants me on Zoloft. Any comments?

>

>

[Guest guest]

. I took Celexa while I was pregnant with my second son. He is the

normally developing one. I was on it before I got pregnant. I tried to get

off of them at my OB/GYNs urging but I was way to depressed when I tried.

Robin

[ ] antidepressants

Has anyone on this group ever taken antidepressants while pregnant?

I am extremely depressed!! Nothing is working for me at all!! My OB

wants me on Zoloft. Any comments?

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[Guest guest]

> Has anyone on this group ever taken antidepressants while pregnant?

> I am extremely depressed!! Nothing is working for me at all!! My OB

> wants me on Zoloft. Any comments?

Seven years ago I took Zoloft for all 9 months of my pregnancy, but

decreased the dosage. The prenatal vitamins and estrogen greatly

improved my mood, but I still wanted what I perceived as a hedge

against postpartum depression. It never happened, and my son's

waning negative affect appears strictly mercury-related.

My chronic clinic depression has receded drastically after 23 years;

in retrospect it worsened after dental work. Two years ago I started

drinking a protein shake that contains vitamins, minerals, amino

acids... everything but the kitchen sink. Now I've been off Zoloft for

18 months.

Nutrition and exercise are SO important, as others have advised. But

if you feel yourself slipping, don't be ashamed to try the Zoloft.

Keep the dark thoughts at bay and stay alive.

Hokkanen

Minneapolis

[Guest guest]

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I'm off to take my son's B complex. I wish I had your advice BEFORE

I went off Effexor. My brain LITERALLY felt heavy during

the " discontinuation phase " (what the drug makers lovingly call

withdrawal). Not a good feeling to turn your head while driving and

have your eyes/brain follow 1 second later. Utterly creepy.

What is the mix of your B complex?

Thanks,

Pam

> >

> > Has anyone on this group ever taken antidepressants while

> pregnant?

> > I am extremely depressed!! Nothing is working for me at all!! My

> OB

> > wants me on Zoloft. Any comments?

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

What products can I get with EFA's in them? Is it in Coromega and CLO? Sorry

I'm not familiar with this.

[ ] Re: antidepressants

I always went OFF my antidepressants before getting pregnant, although I WAS

on them when I got pregnant with my first (an " oops " ). I say do whatever

you can to stay off of them, but in the long run you might need to make a

tough decision and take some Zoloft.

I will tell you this: I went off of my last (and will always be my

last!) antidepressant 2 months ago. It was HELL coming off of Effexor. 6

months prior to going off meds, I started taking Omega 3 fatty acids

religiously. I feel better OFF of antidepressants than I ever did ON them.

I credit the EFAs 110%.

I use Nordic Naturals Complete Omega. I think it was Dr. Mercola who stated

he thought many cases of Autism could be prevented if expectant moms took

EFAs before and during pregnancy/nursing. Don't know if it can be that

simple, but the essential fatty acids are certainly deficient in our diets.

I have a great friend who took Zoloft while pregnant with 2 of her 3 kids.

Both are not Autistic. They do have a speech issue. Her oldest also had

some small issues with speech clarity, so it is likely not the Zoloft.

I suppose you aren't asking if zoloft can cause Autism.

Exercise, eat well, take EFAs and get proper amounts of sleep.

Unless you are at risk for hurting yourself or others, I'd advocate staying

away from antidepressants.

Pam

>

> Has anyone on this group ever taken antidepressants while

pregnant?

> I am extremely depressed!! Nothing is working for me at all!! My

OB

> wants me on Zoloft. Any comments?

>

>

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[Guest guest]

CLO is just short for Cod Liver Oil. That can be bought nearly

anywhere these days, but you should buy only high quality oils with

a recent production date on the bottle. Your local health food

store should stock some: Nordic Naturals, Carlson's, Eskimo Oil

(might only be on-line). Those are all EXCELLENT brand names that

guarantee themselves to be mercury free.

Fish oil (from the meat and not the liver of the fish) is also

available just about anywhere. Seems that all areas now have a GNC

store or another larger supplement supplier.

I would avoid any bottle that doesn't tell you exactly where the oil

is coming from. Some will say a " blend " of oils and don't list from

what fish. Also, PACIFIC and/or NORWEGIAN oils are cleaner. They

might say " ARCTIC " (OK).

I buy my oils from www.omega-direct.com Omega Complete, Cod Liver

Oil capsules and Children's DHA are what I use from this site. I

also buy Carlson's Cod liver oil from my co-op. Carlson's isn't as

expensive as Nordic Naturals, I believe.

I don't know what is in Coromega, but it certainly sounds like Omega

3/6 blend.

http://www.mercola.com/2004/feb/14/omega_3_depression.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2001/sep/8/omega_3.htm

I included two articles from www.mercola.com The second link is

older information (2001), but it has an excellent overview of the

role of EFAs in our body and our children's brain development.

Pam

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> > Has anyone on this group ever taken antidepressants while

> pregnant?

> > I am extremely depressed!! Nothing is working for me at all!! My

> OB

> > wants me on Zoloft. Any comments?

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

>

> Does anyone know anything about withdrawal from antidepressants

(prozac and wellbutrin)? I've been taking a lot of vitamins lately

and decided to use a pill box that has each time of day so I wouldn't

forget any pills. I've been doing this for a week now, and just now

realized I forgot to put my antidepressants in it! So I haven't been

taking them for the past week. If I was going to have withdrawal, I

assume it would have happened by now? I've been taking prozac 10 mgs

and wellbutrin 150 mgs for months now. I was planning on weaning off

them but if I don't have to worry about withdrawal maybe I'll just

toss them now? I was considering starting 5-HTP or St. 's Wort

after stopping them, if needed. I've been on antidepressants for

almost 20 years now so I'm a little nervous about stopping

everything. And I really wasn't planning on cold turkey.

>

==>, that is terrific news! Dr. Weston Price was right,

nutrition handles so much, including depression and anxiety! Wow!

I wouldn't look back . You have just received a gift from

Mother Nature (me and Dr. Price too). Yippee!!! You go girl! If

you are doing fine I wouldn't start on 5-HTP or St. 's Wort.

Trust your wonderful body, which is perfectly designed to keep itself

healthy IF we give it what it needs!

Onward & upward!

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

This is something best worked out with your doctor.

Zack

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, wrote:

> Does anyone know anything about withdrawal from antidepressants (prozac and

wellbutrin)? I've been taking a lot of vitamins lately and decided to use a

pill box that has each time of day so I wouldn't forget any pills. I've been

doing this for a week now, and just now realized I forgot to put my

antidepressants in it! So I haven't been taking them for the past week. If I

was going to have withdrawal, I assume it would have happened by now? I've been

taking prozac 10 mgs and wellbutrin 150 mgs for months now. I was planning on

weaning off them but if I don't have to worry about withdrawal maybe I'll just

toss them now? I was considering starting 5-HTP or St. 's Wort after

stopping them, if needed. I've been on antidepressants for almost 20 years now

so I'm a little nervous about stopping everything. And I really wasn't planning

on cold turkey.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks, Bee. I'm a little worried because I mentioned this to

another email

> list I'm on (about parenting - we chat about everything) and they

all said,

> " Call your doctor now! You could have some serious health problems

> resulting from this! You NEED to wean! " UGH. But it's been a

week so I

> would think those " health problems " would have reared their ugly

head by now.

>

==>, please don't worry. Trust you own instincts and your

body. God didn't make any stupid bodies! Doctors, drugs companies,

etc. are fear mongerers. They try to make you scared to stop taking

toxic/poisonous drugs!! It's all about the money, and not about

health at all. You should be more scared taking them. To keep the

fear alive they tell you all kinds of things:

1) " we don't know the cause " (I do! It's lack of or an imbalance in

nutrition and too many toxins!)

2 " you can't do anything about it " (Yes you can per Dr. Price.)

3) " it's uncurable " so you must take drugs for life to save your life!

(The body heals itself naturally IF we treat it right!)

4) " it's in your genes and you have no power to change it " (Per Dr.

Price proper nutritions changes DNA/genes.)

5) " something horrible could be happening to you and you wouldn't

know about it " (Oh really? I'd rather die of natural causes than from

poisons, drugs, pain and suffering medicine puts people through.

Even their tests can be gruesome, and false.)

I know that I feel good, I'm healthy, I'm alert, happy, etc. so the

last thing I'd want to do is trust them to tell me if something is

wrong or not! If it ain't broken, don't fix it!

The best in health (trully), Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Does anyone know anything about withdrawal from antidepressants

(prozac and wellbutrin)? I've been taking a lot of vitamins lately and

decided to use a pill box that has each time of day so I wouldn't

forget any pills. I've been doing this for a week now, and just now

realized I forgot to put my antidepressants in it! So I haven't been

taking them for the past week. If I was going to have withdrawal, I

assume it would have happened by now? I've been taking prozac 10 mgs

and wellbutrin 150 mgs for months now. I was planning on weaning off

them but if I don't have to worry about withdrawal maybe I'll just toss

them now? I was considering starting 5-HTP or St. 's Wort after

stopping them, if needed. I've been on antidepressants for almost 20

years now so I'm a little nervous about stopping everything. And I

really wasn't planning on cold turkey.

>

>

,

I don't know about Wellbutrin, but I know Prozac has a long half-life

(amount of time it stays in your system.) So going off that cold-

turkey would not be a problem, according to my son's recent pdoc (short

for psychiatrist). It will take about 4-6 weeks, I believe, for it all

to clear out of your system. I would not take SJWort until that time

is up. 5-HTP is a natural form of serotonin. It has worked well for

me when SJWort failed to work anymore. I have gotten jittery from both

of them before so I have to be careful. Good luck coming off the

a/ds. I tried that with my kids but my oldest went right over into

mania. So he's on a lower dose of a different antidepressant now and a

low-dose mood stabilizer. But it's still less than he was on when I

started weaning them. We'll try to wean again after awhile, after the

diet and supplements have done more detoxing of his system.

Cathe

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I didn't read the whole e-mail and I'm not fully awake yet! Taking

LOTS of vitamins will help with any withdrawal if you're experiencing it.

If you're not, lots of vitamins are still a good idea.

Good luck!

Zack

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Zack Widup wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> This is something best worked out with your doctor.

>

> Zack

>

> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, wrote:

>

>> Does anyone know anything about withdrawal from antidepressants (prozac and

wellbutrin)? I've been taking a lot of vitamins lately and decided to use a

pill box that has each time of day so I wouldn't forget any pills. I've been

doing this for a week now, and just now realized I forgot to put my

antidepressants in it! So I haven't been taking them for the past week. If I

was going to have withdrawal, I assume it would have happened by now? I've been

taking prozac 10 mgs and wellbutrin 150 mgs for months now. I was planning on

weaning off them but if I don't have to worry about withdrawal maybe I'll just

toss them now? I was considering starting 5-HTP or St. 's Wort after

stopping them, if needed. I've been on antidepressants for almost 20 years now

so I'm a little nervous about stopping everything. And I really wasn't planning

on cold turkey.

>>

>>

>>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi ,

>

> This is something best worked out with your doctor.

>

> Zack

==>Zack, I'm sure would have, but she accidently stopped taking

them for a week and feels good!!

Bee

[Guest guest]

,

One more thing: I have suffered from depression from birth, it seems.

As I continue on the diet, I notice that I feel more stable and not so

down. The true test will be in the late winter next year as we just

moved north from the sunny (read: too hot for me!) south. B vitamins

are good to combat depression. I've recently increased my niacin and

have felt it clearing out my brain, seriously. It's a wild sensation.

I think Vit. D (sunshine) is good to combat depression, also.

Cathe

[Guest guest]

>

> ,

>

> One more thing: I have suffered from depression from birth, it

seems.

> As I continue on the diet, I notice that I feel more stable and not

so

> down. The true test will be in the late winter next year as we just

> moved north from the sunny (read: too hot for me!) south. B vitamins

> are good to combat depression. I've recently increased my niacin and

> have felt it clearing out my brain, seriously. It's a wild sensation.

> I think Vit. D (sunshine) is good to combat depression, also.

>

==>I agree with you Cathe. Vitamin D and B vitamins are in my

article " Anxiety and Depression, Help For " :

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat6.php

Also Omega 3 balanced at least 1:1 with omega 6 is very important.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

I've recently increased my niacin and

> > have felt it clearing out my brain, seriously. It's a wild

sensation.

> > I think Vit. D (sunshine) is good to combat depression, also.

> >

> ==>I agree with you Cathe. Vitamin D and B vitamins are in my

> article " Anxiety and Depression, Help For " :

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat6.php

>

> Also Omega 3 balanced at least 1:1 with omega 6 is very important.

>

> Luv, Bee

>

Hi Bee,

I wanted to ask you about the above reaction I've been having since I

upped my niacin to 225 mg a day. I take 125 in the a.m. and that's

when I feel the flush--on the inside!! It feels like it's in my

sinuses and even my brain. Everything gets really clear! I am

wondering (because of my ongoing, lingering lifelong battle with

depression) if this means this is where the bulk of my candida lies?

In other words, I flush usually only on my face or arms, sometimes my

legs, but lately inside my head. Just wondering if this is common or

if it signifies anything?

Thanks, Bee,

Cathe

[Guest guest]

>

> I've recently increased my niacin and

> > > have felt it clearing out my brain, seriously. It's a wild

> sensation.

> > > I think Vit. D (sunshine) is good to combat depression, also.

> > >

> > ==>I agree with you Cathe. Vitamin D and B vitamins are in my

> > article " Anxiety and Depression, Help For " :

> > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat6.php

> >

> > Also Omega 3 balanced at least 1:1 with omega 6 is very important.

> >

> > Luv, Bee

> >

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I wanted to ask you about the above reaction I've been having since

I

> upped my niacin to 225 mg a day. I take 125 in the a.m. and that's

> when I feel the flush--on the inside!! It feels like it's in my

> sinuses and even my brain. Everything gets really clear! I am

> wondering (because of my ongoing, lingering lifelong battle with

> depression) if this means this is where the bulk of my candida

lies?

> In other words, I flush usually only on my face or arms, sometimes

my

> legs, but lately inside my head. Just wondering if this is common

or

> if it signifies anything?

==>Hi Cathe. It means those areas are where the bulk of the toxins

lie, not candida. Candida toxins could be collecting in those areas

too, along with toxins from foods, drinks, the environment, drugs,

radiation from the sun and other sources, etc., etc., and the list

goes on! LOL!

Bee

[Guest guest]

> ==>Hi Cathe. It means those areas are where the bulk of the toxins

> lie, not candida. Candida toxins could be collecting in those areas

> too, along with toxins from foods, drinks, the environment, drugs,

> radiation from the sun and other sources, etc., etc., and the list

> goes on! LOL!

>

> Bee

>

Ahh, that makes sense. Well I sure am glad to be getting rid of those

toxins!

Thanks,

Cathe

[Guest guest]

Please please be careful .

While I totally agree with getting off anti-dees,

I must share my personal experience with you with

both of these drugs.

A week is not long enough to tell if you are okay.

I was on a much much lower dose of wellbutrin than

you and accidently missed some doses sporadically.

Result, fine for a week or so, then WHAMO...black

hole depression HELL. Please please please be

careful. I felt like I could not stand to live

a moment longer. This feeling was HORRIBLE.

Wellbutrin leaves the body suddenly and can cause

awful awful suddden withdrawal.

My doc understood my desire to get off this stuff

and supported me. He switched me to Prozac, which

he said is much easier to get off as it stays in

your system longer. I did this and was able to

easily withdraw from Wellbutrin. NOw I am down

to only 10mg of Prozac for 3 days, then 1 day off.

I will be off it soon.

Doing it this way is still fast and safer. You do

whatever you want, but I have seen people encouraged

to get off their anti-dees suddenly with tragic results.

Please take care and I hope this info helps.

Jagrati

>

> Thanks, Bee. I'm a little worried because I mentioned this to

another email

> list I'm on (about parenting - we chat about everything) and they all

said,

> " Call your doctor now! You could have some serious health problems

> resulting from this! You NEED to wean! " UGH. But it's been a week

so I

> would think those " health problems " would have reared their ugly head

by

> now.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bee and everyone. I recently started the D vitamins and I do take B

(though I need more B12, which I just bought) so I wonder if these things

have been helping. Like Cathe said, winter will be my true test too. I get

very depressed in the winter months! At least the vitamins and diet will

have a lot of time to work before then.

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks Bee and everyone. I recently started the D vitamins and I do

take B

> (though I need more B12, which I just bought) so I wonder if these

things

> have been helping. Like Cathe said, winter will be my true test

too. I get

> very depressed in the winter months! At least the vitamins and diet

will

> have a lot of time to work before then.

>

==>, you won't have the same problems this Winter because you

will be taking Cod Liver Oil or an equivalent which contains omega-3,

vitamin D and vitamin A!!! SAD (seasonal affective disorder) is caused

by a lack of vitamin D and its co-factors (included in cod liver oil

and this diet). It is a MUST in Winter, especially in Northern climates.

Why are you taking extra B12?

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm taking the extra B12 because I read that people with Crohn's are

> deficient. And I read it helps with depression.

>

==>, " real " B12 is not plant based which is what most B12

supplements are. Plenty of B12 is found in red meats and other foods

on this program so you wouldn't need an extra supplement, so you can

save money. See this article about B12:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foods33.php

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> According to what I've read, I'll never be able to get enough B12

just from

> food, since I have malabsorption (part of my ileum was removed).

Actually,

> they say I should be getting B12 shots, but my doctors don't believe

in

> doing anything that is the least bit natural. They all just want me

drugged

> up. I'm essentially on my own with all this.

==>. I suggest you get tested for B12 & folate levels:

http://tiny.cc/lUy37

Then you will know for sure whether not having your ileum is a problem.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

>

Taking

> LOTS of vitamins will help with any withdrawal if you're

experiencing it.

> If you're not, lots of vitamins are still a good idea.

>

> Good luck!

>

> Zack

Zack (or anyone else with info..)

I'm looking toward weaning off a sleeping pill and am curious as to

which vitamins are known to assist the body in the withdrawal and

clearing of drugs?

Thanks, Anita

[Guest guest]

Most important would be B complex, extra B1 in particular, and C. Make

sure you also take E and A & D as they complement the others.

Zack

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, neets7679 wrote:

>

>>

>>

> Taking

>> LOTS of vitamins will help with any withdrawal if you're

> experiencing it.

>> If you're not, lots of vitamins are still a good idea.

>>

>> Good luck!

>>

>> Zack

>

> Zack (or anyone else with info..)

> I'm looking toward weaning off a sleeping pill and am curious as to

> which vitamins are known to assist the body in the withdrawal and

> clearing of drugs?

> Thanks, Anita

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Zack.

Anita

> >>

> >>

> > Taking

> >> LOTS of vitamins will help with any withdrawal if you're

> > experiencing it.

> >> If you're not, lots of vitamins are still a good idea.

> >>

> >> Good luck!

> >>

> >> Zack

> >

> > Zack (or anyone else with info..)

> > I'm looking toward weaning off a sleeping pill and am curious as to

> > which vitamins are known to assist the body in the withdrawal and

> > clearing of drugs?

> > Thanks, Anita

> >

> >

> >

> >

>