surgery

[Guest guest]

ty gina,

what is even worse is I get along better with my xhusband then I do my own

mother

Re: [ ] surgery

Glad to hear that the surgery went well, . I hope that you are

feeling good today.

Sorry about your mother. That's not an easy situation to deal with.

Not an MD

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Massey

<renandstimpy3@...> wrote:

> went well. They have me on Loratab liquid, biaxin liquid and demerol. I also

> have percocets from my primary as well if needed. My throat is very sore

> even when taking the loratab. the last thing I remember was seeing them put

> the sleepy stuff into my iv then waking up in the recovery room and wanting

> dustin. My mom drove us home and well from the get go when we got her she

> became a witch with a b. she took dustin to walmart to get my scripts filled

> and got lunch and muttered under her breath that dustin was a baby. He is

> far from it. Ok getting tired so will write more when I have more energy

> again.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

My Holistic Dentist offered Vit C with an antioxidant fruit juice right

after he pulled my tooth. He said taking extra Vit C helps to detox the

anesthesia which will speed the healing process.

Michele

Florida

PS May I suggest you use different words. You may consider looking forward

to a new beginning. Tell yourself you are relaxed and confident and that

the surgery will proceed with ease and grace. You literally are what you

think. Dr. Candace Pert proved that our emotions are in every cell of our

body from neuropeptides. This is your life and your lessons. Embrace them.

Own them.

_____

From: Dr [mailto:Dr ] On Behalf Of

hopem44

Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:26 AM

Dr

Subject: Surgery

Hi,

Need some input. I have a surgery secheduled for Dec to have a lump

removed from my left breast and a reduction while they are removing

tissue for testing etc... Really nervous never had surgery. I am doing

a cleanse before. and want to continue once I am feeling better to

remove any traces of ansthesia etc... could any of you gice me any

suggestions. I am not looking forward to this and feel very tense.

[Guest guest]

Hello, I had surgery once, my son 26 X's, other son 3 X's, 1st breathe,

take deep breathes and trust in the One who gives u Hope! Pray.

Don't take vit e a the day before or of ur surgery, do take 400iu w/ ur

green drink or mulit as soon as you wake up, take 400 iu of E 1 wk, 2nd

wk go to 800IU, 3rd wk go to 1200iu's of E this is gr8 place to be for

healing and free radical destroyer, if u have any immune building vit

Beta Glucans, grape seed extracts, Juice if you can, eat as much live

food as possible, drink brooths from good veggies, and really try to

focous on good things, think about being healed, think about good times

you've had, think about peaceful places you enjoy, take a bunch of

orthines before your surgery day, or something to put you to sleep so

your not worrying, here's a good saying Don't let your mind get there

before your feet do. Take Kava, and or DMAE, B complex 100 mg of each

now several times a day to help replace stuff your stress is stealing

from your body, those who take immune building vit before and after

Heal 100x's faster then those who worry and take nothing. Get lots

hugs, get someone to hold you now each time you worry, feeling Love is

a Big Vitamin and the best one, Love alone can make people live. I'm

not a doc but I do believe I've given some great advice, I think you

have a lot ahead of you, you'll be fine, remember Breathe and take 4-5

deep cleansing breathe's when your feeling over whelmed and can't get a

hug! Lots of Hugs and LOVE!!! Blessings to you, Sharon PS my son is

coming up for a huge surgery in 13 days, he's 15 and he won't be able

to chew for 6 wks. We'll all Pray!

>

> Hi,

> Need some input. I have a surgery secheduled for Dec to have a lump

> removed from my left breast and a reduction while they are removing

> tissue for testing etc... Really nervous never had surgery. I am

doing

> a cleanse before. and want to continue once I am feeling better to

> remove any traces of ansthesia etc... could any of you gice me any

> suggestions. I am not looking forward to this and feel very tense.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Again, I just wanted to add Sam-e you can take 400mg 2ce a day, the

DMAE and KAVA for any anexity, but the SAM-E will not only help your

liver it will calm your nevers as well as magnesium but we really can't

adsorb it much, the liquid version into the skin is excellent. Or 2

cups epsom salts in a hot tub will calm you, also add a cup of baking

soda and chop ginger root cut 15 1 " pieces boil and strain in the tub.

This is excellent for calming your nerves, and many other things. There

is sooo much you could do, but use something to distract your mind, try

to laugh, easier said then done but very effect for your healing. Best

wishes, I hope I did not offend anyone. When I had a historectomy the

doctor came in and shoot some stuff into my iv while I was in post op

and I told him I was nervous and when would I be relaxed, well in

seconds I was out, the next thing I new I was waking up and it was

over. I'd take shark cartlidge if I had any tissue removed or surgery

again, I take shark liver oil which is Omega 3, anyway, I hope I helped

you. I just wanted to add some things, oh and my son is thinking about

what flavor anisteshia (can't spell) he'll get, they even have cotton

candy flavor for the kids, in which he says he's out within seconds

waking up saying is it over and it is, now it's healing the soreness,

please do the E like I said in other message very important, w/ all

others C, multi, juicing, greens. Best To You and yours, Sharon

>

> Hi,

> Need some input. I have a surgery secheduled for Dec to have a lump

> removed from my left breast and a reduction while they are removing

> tissue for testing etc... Really nervous never had surgery. I am

doing

> a cleanse before. and want to continue once I am feeling better to

> remove any traces of ansthesia etc... could any of you gice me any

> suggestions. I am not looking forward to this and feel very tense.

>

[Guest guest]

from my wife's experience, do the surgery ASAP, coz if it is a

agressive cancer every day counts.

B

>

> Hi,

> Need some input. I have a surgery secheduled for Dec to have a lump

> removed from my left breast and a reduction while they are removing

> tissue for testing etc... Really nervous never had surgery. I am doing

> a cleanse before. and want to continue once I am feeling better to

> remove any traces of ansthesia etc... could any of you gice me any

> suggestions. I am not looking forward to this and feel very tense.

>

[Guest guest]

You might want to get the book " The Journey, A Practical Guide to

Healing your Life and Setting Yourself Free, " by Bays.

She had a tumor the size of a basketball that went from her uterus up

to her diaphram. She was bleeding internally by the time she went to

the doctor, and she wanted to check her into the hospital that very

day. Being into alternative stuff, she didn't want to. She got the

doctor to postpone it for one month if she was able to get the bleeding

under control in two days. She was able to do that. She then found

someone that guided her through a type of meditation where she went

into the tumor and found out what emotion was in the tumor. She had a

meeting in her meditation with her younger self that had formed the

emotion and the people that had caused it, and she told them how she

felt and listened to what was going on with them at the time. She then

forgave them. In six weeks, the tumor was completely gone. She went

to Cedars, and testing there could find no trace of the tumor.

She then went on to to develope other techniques to go along with it.

She helpd a man who had a tumor in his lung, and it completely

disappeared in two weeks. The doctors ran all kinds of tests and

documented him in one of the journals. He was the first documented case

of a lung tumor being cured. They of course attributed the cure to a

drug he was given two years earlier. There's lots more stories, but

her techniques seem very life-altering. I'm going to go through

a " journey " here pretty quickly.

>

>

> >

> > Hi,

> > Need some input. I have a surgery secheduled for Dec to have a lump

> > removed from my left breast and a reduction while they are removing

> > tissue for testing etc... Really nervous never had surgery. I am

doing

> > a cleanse before. and want to continue once I am feeling better to

> > remove any traces of ansthesia etc... could any of you gice me any

> > suggestions. I am not looking forward to this and feel very tense.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Again, I wanted to add I did know of a girl in Peru that was pour

had a tumor the size of a grapefruit in her lungs, took shark

cartilidge from seagate, his is so strong after touching a vit u need

towash off the fish smell, any way, it will aid in healing after as

well as possibly shrinking the tumor, the little girls was gone, she

had no operation by the time they flew her to America. Everyone has

there own thumb print, you must find what does and doen't wk for you,

Stay on good thoughts, Laugh out loud, think healed. Be happy it is

your best medicine, Sharon

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > Need some input. I have a surgery secheduled for Dec to have a

lump

> > > removed from my left breast and a reduction while they are

removing

> > > tissue for testing etc... Really nervous never had surgery. I

am

> doing

> > > a cleanse before. and want to continue once I am feeling better

to

> > > remove any traces of ansthesia etc... could any of you gice me

any

> > > suggestions. I am not looking forward to this and feel very

tense.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Again Again, I rarely answer, for some reason I'm answering you, I

forgot to tell you that if you take Tumeric what ever the 500mg

bottle says triple it at least 3 times a day 1 week before mamograms

or xrays or radiation and take it 2 weeks after too, Also Miso is

very effective if taken daily before radiation, do at least a TBS

daily for as long as you can before radiation, continue after but

getting these in you before will build up your body to protect it

from harmful xrays, radiation thearaphy ect.. Really Really works as

well as all other info I shared. I hope you get this message.

Bless You, Sharon

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > Need some input. I have a surgery secheduled for Dec to have

a

> lump

> > > > removed from my left breast and a reduction while they are

> removing

> > > > tissue for testing etc... Really nervous never had surgery. I

> am

> > doing

> > > > a cleanse before. and want to continue once I am feeling

better

> to

> > > > remove any traces of ansthesia etc... could any of you gice

me

> any

> > > > suggestions. I am not looking forward to this and feel very

> tense.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I just want to speak to the mammogram thing.  There's a lot of controversy

surrounding them.  Please google the dangers of them and think about an

alternative.  They now have heat type tests that are much more accurate and no

exposure to ex-rays.  It's believed now that the dangers of the exposure,

especially as the breast is compressed so much is much worse than the results. 

Just my two dimes. (inflation doncha know?)

From: heretoserve777 <heretoserve777@...>

Subject: Re: Surgery

Dr

Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 4:24 PM

Hi Again Again, I rarely answer, for some reason I'm answering you, I

forgot to tell you that if you take Tumeric what ever the 500mg

bottle says triple it at least 3 times a day 1 week before mamograms

or xrays or radiation and take it 2 weeks after too, Also Miso is

very effective if taken daily before radiation, do at least a TBS

daily for as long as you can before radiation, continue after but

getting these in you before will build up your body to protect it

from harmful xrays, radiation thearaphy ect.. Really Really works as

well as all other info I shared. I hope you get this message.

Bless You, Sharon

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > Need some input. I have a surgery secheduled for Dec to have

a

> lump

> > > > removed from my left breast and a reduction while they are

> removing

> > > > tissue for testing etc... Really nervous never had surgery. I

> am

> > doing

> > > > a cleanse before. and want to continue once I am feeling

better

> to

> > > > remove any traces of ansthesia etc... could any of you gice

me

> any

> > > > suggestions. I am not looking forward to this and feel very

> tense.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, heat thing is pretty vague, I meant to say thermography.

 

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/10/29/thermography.aspx

From: heretoserve777 <heretoserve777>

Subject: Re: Surgery

Dr@groups .com

Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 4:24 PM

Hi Again Again, I rarely answer, for some reason I'm answering you, I

forgot to tell you that if you take Tumeric what ever the 500mg

bottle says triple it at least 3 times a day 1 week before mamograms

or xrays or radiation and take it 2 weeks after too, Also Miso is

very effective if taken daily before radiation, do at least a TBS

daily for as long as you can before radiation, continue after but

getting these in you before will build up your body to protect it

from harmful xrays, radiation thearaphy ect.. Really Really works as

well as all other info I shared. I hope you get this message.

Bless You, Sharon

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > Need some input. I have a surgery secheduled for Dec to have

a

> lump

> > > > removed from my left breast and a reduction while they are

> removing

> > > > tissue for testing etc... Really nervous never had surgery. I

> am

> > doing

> > > > a cleanse before. and want to continue once I am feeling

better

> to

> > > > remove any traces of ansthesia etc... could any of you gice

me

> any

> > > > suggestions. I am not looking forward to this and feel very

> tense.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm in agreement. I have heard that Thermography does a wonderful

job, finding issues 8 years before a mammogram can. I have not tried

either but thought I'd throw that in.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > > Need some input. I have a surgery secheduled for Dec to

have

> a

> > lump

> > > > > removed from my left breast and a reduction while they are

> > removing

> > > > > tissue for testing etc... Really nervous never had surgery.

I

> > am

> > > doing

> > > > > a cleanse before. and want to continue once I am feeling

> better

> > to

> > > > > remove any traces of ansthesia etc... could any of you gice

> me

> > any

> > > > > suggestions. I am not looking forward to this and feel very

> > tense.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes they do I believe there called Thermograms and it's impossible to

find a hospital in small towns with them, You really need to call

around to see who has these machines. There not within 100 miles of

my home. So Thermo imaging w/ no radiation Because mamograms really

do cause cancer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > > Need some input. I have a surgery secheduled for Dec to

have

> a

> > lump

> > > > > removed from my left breast and a reduction while they are

> > removing

> > > > > tissue for testing etc... Really nervous never had surgery.

I

> > am

> > > doing

> > > > > a cleanse before. and want to continue once I am feeling

> better

> > to

> > > > > remove any traces of ansthesia etc... could any of you gice

> me

> > any

> > > > > suggestions. I am not looking forward to this and feel very

> > tense.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

IMO, common sense seems to be more valuable nowadays than alot of

high-tech (like x-rays, etc.). I'm wondering if one isn't better off

just implementing all of Dr. 's prevention advice, than getting

any x-rays or other hazardous tests. What are they going to do for

you if they do think you have cancer anyway? Are all the " successes "

really cured long term? What are the statistics? Are statistics even

recorded for every patient? I don't have all the answers, I'm just

disappointed in the 'main-stream' medical institutions' lack of common

sense about many things nowadays.

> I just want to speak to the mammogram thing. There's a lot of

controversy surrounding them. Please google the dangers of them and

think about an alternative. They now have heat type tests that are

much more accurate and no exposure to ex-rays. It's believed now that

the dangers of the exposure, especially as the breast is compressed so

much is much worse than the results. Just my two dimes. (inflation

doncha know?)

>

[Guest guest]

Good points... Especially considering that, according to the Journal of

Oncology, the overall average success rate from chemotherapy (after 5 years) for

all types of cancer is only 2%!!! With results like that, how could you lose by

looking into alternatives such as those covered in depth on cancertutor.com ?

From: caretstick <caretstick@...>

Subject: Re: Surgery

Dr

Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 5:03 PM

IMO, common sense seems to be more valuable nowadays than alot of

high-tech (like x-rays, etc.). I'm wondering if one isn't better off

just implementing all of Dr. 's prevention advice, than getting

any x-rays or other hazardous tests. What are they going to do for

you if they do think you have cancer anyway? Are all the " successes "

really cured long term? What are the statistics? Are statistics even

recorded for every patient? I don't have all the answers, I'm just

disappointed in the 'main-stream' medical institutions' lack of common

sense about many things nowadays.

> I just want to speak to the mammogram thing. There's a lot of

controversy surrounding them. Please google the dangers of them and

think about an alternative. They now have heat type tests that are

much more accurate and no exposure to ex-rays. It's believed now that

the dangers of the exposure, especially as the breast is compressed so

much is much worse than the results. Just my two dimes. (inflation

doncha know?)

>

[Guest guest]

very astute comment Edy! 

Please see also the Book- The Truth About Breast Cancer " for more details on

dangers of Mammography.

Nutricon - Luke

________________________________

From: Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...>

Dr

Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 6:19:04 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Surgery

I just want to speak to the mammogram thing.  There's a lot of controversy

surrounding them.  Please google the dangers of them and think about an

alternative.  They now have heat type tests that are much more accurate and no

exposure to ex-rays.  It's believed now that the dangers of the exposure,

especially as the breast is compressed so much is much worse than the results. 

Just my two dimes. (inflation doncha know?)

From: heretoserve777 <heretoserve777>

Subject: Re: Surgery

Dr@groups .com

Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 4:24 PM

Hi Again Again, I rarely answer, for some reason I'm answering you, I

forgot to tell you that if you take Tumeric what ever the 500mg

bottle says triple it at least 3 times a day 1 week before mamograms

or xrays or radiation and take it 2 weeks after too, Also Miso is

very effective if taken daily before radiation, do at least a TBS

daily for as long as you can before radiation, continue after but

getting these in you before will build up your body to protect it

from harmful xrays, radiation thearaphy ect.. Really Really works as

well as all other info I shared. I hope you get this message.

Bless You, Sharon

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > Need some input. I have a surgery secheduled for Dec to have

a

> lump

> > > > removed from my left breast and a reduction while they are

> removing

> > > > tissue for testing etc... Really nervous never had surgery. I

> am

> > doing

> > > > a cleanse before. and want to continue once I am feeling

better

> to

> > > > remove any traces of ansthesia etc... could any of you gice

me

> any

> > > > suggestions. I am not looking forward to this and feel very

> tense.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hey,

 

    Just wanted to say to EDY and LUKE you guys are up with your stuff good for

you, thermo imaging is really the way to go as I stated previously with NO

Raditation, BUT if you HAVE to have raditation, do take tumeric 3 weeks prior

best and 10-14 days after plus miso among others again these are excellent

raditation protection for those who have no choice, but thanks so much for

adding. that's what it's all about, must go now and take care of my ds, no time

to share all knowledge. Have a gr8 day.

best wishes to all. CHOW

[Guest guest]

Hey 777,

 

Just trying to help, thanks.

From: young's <heretoserve777@...>

Subject: Re: Surgery

Dr

Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:07 PM

Hey,

 

    Just wanted to say to EDY and LUKE you guys are up with your stuff good for

you, thermo imaging is really the way to go as I stated previously with NO

Raditation, BUT if you HAVE to have raditation, do take tumeric 3 weeks prior

best and 10-14 days after plus miso among others again these are excellent

raditation protection for those who have no choice, but thanks so much for

adding. that's what it's all about, must go now and take care of my ds, no time

to share all knowledge. Have a gr8 day.

best wishes to all. CHOW

[Guest guest]

Say, does anyone know if men can have thermal imaging done on their

chest? I think I may have tumor(s) in my chest, and don't want any

more x-rays/cat scans.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

This is what's so scary for me, too. I have had several VA (ventriculo-atrial)

shunts for my hydrocephalus (still have several in place) and MUST have

prophylactic antibiotics for any surgeries or dental cleaning to prevent

infection. What do you do if you have to take antibiotics??

 

LIZARD

From: mcnj <mcnj@...>

Subject: [ ] Surgery

" Candida Support Group " < >

Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 10:26 AM

Hello Bee,

Someone I know is having elbow surgery this week. How can I explain that

antibiotics are unnecessary?

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hello Bee,

>

> Someone I know is having elbow surgery this week. How can I

explain that antibiotics are unnecessary?

>

> They are taking up to 4 tbsps of coconut oil already and doing most

of your protocol.

+++Hi . Any and all drugs are toxic/poisonous to the body,

including antibiotics. Most drugs are based upon natural healing

substances found in Mother Nature's foods, herbs, spices, etc. But

drug companies cannot make money unless they patent a substance;

Mother Nature cannot be patented. Therefore they create synthetic

chemicals that duplicate nature's molecules, however not only are

they synthetic but they are also poisonous, unlike whole foods,

herbs, spices, etc. - see " Drugs are Made from Natural Cures " for

some examples of drugs made from natural substances:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/drugs3.php

+++Nature's antibiotics are not toxic/poisonous so they will not

damage the body like drugs do. All of the antifungals I recommend

are nature's antibiotics, i.e. unrefined coconut oil, oil of oregano,

clove oil and garlic, since they are also antibacterial, antiviral,

and antiparasitic. For more information about each one see these

articles, which includes research:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_4_1.php

+++When I had surgery to remove my teeth for dentures, I didn't take

any antibiotics or pain killers. My dentist was amazed at how fast

and well I healed. Instead I ate well, took supplements,

particularly higher doses of vitamin C and vitamin A, and I put cold

and then wet packs on my mouth/face.

+++Several years ago I cured my pneumonia, after taking 2 different

kinds of antibiotic drugs, by drinking 4 cups of garlic tea per day.

I was cured in 3 days.

+++However, doctors are running scared, and need to " cover their

behinds " so they over perscribe antibiotics to avoid lawsuits.

Anyone who wants to avoid drugs may have to sign a waiver.

>

> Also, if a person has been ill with Candida overgrowth for approx.

10 years, it should take about 10 months for recovery. Yet if the

person is drinking 3 cups of organic coffee a day, chewing xylitol

gum, and eating 3 cheat meals over the weekend, can they still

recover but in a longer period of time?

+++The person can still recover " if " they also obtain " proper

nutrients " (my diet plus supplements), but as you say it will take

longer. " Proper nutrients " are the key, but of course they will be

set back by that many cheat meals every week, which will feed candida.

+++However, most people nowadays have been unhealthy since before

they were born, so a person may have to be on the program longer to

totally heal, and they would be well-advised to do so. Just curing

candida back to when it first started, isn't the only health problems

most people have had. This is a healing program so it is capable of

healing past symptoms, diseases, injuries, etc., getting rid of

drugs, anesthetics, novacaine, etc. that were used in the past too.

+++Also, life-long health can only be maintained by consuming " proper

nutrients " and eliminating toxins and damaging foods.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

My surgery was January 26th and they kept me in the hospital 7 nights. I

think its just simply depends on the doctor! My thoughts are with you

! All of us on here know that these surgeries are not easy, but it

sounds like you will be in good care. Blessings to you!

April

Surgery

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:17:36 -0500

I am having surgery this friday the 12 on c6-7 and c 4-5 are

already fused. This time I am having a neurosurgeon do the surgery

and last time I had an orthopedic do the surgery. Is there anything

different on how they do the surgery etc. The interesting part is I

was only in the hospital one night the last time 6 years ago and

this time he said 2-3 nights.

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[Guest guest]

>

>

> I am having surgery this friday the 12 on c6-7 and c 4-5 are already fused.

This time I am

having a neurosurgeon do the surgery and last time I had an orthopedic do the

surgery. Is

there anything different on how they do the surgery etc. The interesting part is

I was only in

the hospital one night the last time 6 years ago and this time he said 2-3

nights.

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

The surgeries are always less and less invasive over time as new techniques

develop, as well as different from surgeon to surgeon. An orthopedic spine

surgeon and a neurosurgeon are somewhat different in technique, but as long as

they forcus mainly on SPINE surgery, that's your key. I've operated alongside

both types and have found them to be equally as good with spine, but you can

have a neurosurgeon who mostly does tumors or brain and an ortho who mostly does

knees and hips. The importnant thing is to find a surgeon who specializes in

spine and little or nothing else.

---

> From: <ljorichardson0912@...>

> Subject: Surgery

> spinal problems

> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 7:17 AM

> I am having surgery this friday the 12 on c6-7 and c 4-5 are

> already fused. This time I am having a neurosurgeon do the

> surgery and last time I had an orthopedic do the surgery. Is

> there anything different on how they do the surgery etc. The

> interesting part is I was only in the hospital one night the

> last time 6 years ago and this time he said 2-3 nights.

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Hi ,

I'm wishing you good luck with your surgery. I'm dreading the day

when I have to have a 3 level fusion in my neck and probably I'll have

to have something done to my lower back too.

I think that any spine surgeon, whether he/she starts out as an

ortho or a neuro, is tryng to accomplish the same thing--which is to

achieve a stable structure for the spine and to decompress the nerves

without damaging them. Much depends on the experience of the surgeon

and the kinds of surgeries he does. I do think there is a difference

between a surgeon who sees relatively uncomplicated surgeries such as

one or two level fusions with less severe spinal degeneration,and

surgeons who see 3 level fusions and up, as well as revision surgeries

and scoliosis cases. When you consider what a spinal reconstruction

surgeon has to do to untwist a spine with severe scoliosis, you have to

give him/her kudos for courage and endurance. Some of these surgeries

are over 12 hours long and require a team of doctors--some to do the

ortho work of cutting wedges into vertebra to pull them straight, then

grafting bone and placing hardware, and also neurologists to monitor

the nerves.

Since yours is a revision surgery, I'm assuming you went with the

new surgeon because he does this kind of more complicated surgery.

This may be why you are staying in the hospital longer this time too.

Once again, good luck and keep us informed on how you are doing.

Best wishes,

Rochelle

-- In neck pain ,

<ljorichardson0912@...> wrote:

>

>

> I am having surgery this friday the 12 on c6-7 and c 4-5 are already

> fused. This time I am having a neurosurgeon do the surgery and last

> time I had an orthopedic do the surgery. Is there anything different

on

> how they do the surgery etc. The interesting part is I was only in the

> hospital one night the last time 6 years ago and this time he said 2-3

> nights.

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At 10:07 AM 2/10/2009, you wrote:

>Hi ,

>

>I'm wishing you good luck with your surgery. I'm dreading the day

>when I have to have a 3 level fusion in my neck and probably I'll have

>to have something done to my lower back too.

>you have to

>give him/her kudos for courage and endurance. Some of these surgeries

>are over 12 hours long and require a team of doctors--some to do the

>ortho work of cutting wedges into vertebra to pull them straight, then

>grafting bone and placing hardware, and also neurologists to monitor

>the nerves.

>

>Best wishes,

>

>Rochelle

My 2nd surgery in 1987 which was to repair a botched surgery and fuse

2 levels took 10 hours. My 3rd back surgery which they repaired the

dura, removed those 2 levels and then added 2 more took 12 hours. In

both cases my Wife was freaking out because I was under longer than

they expected. The 2nd one took 12 hours because they had a very

hard time removing the previous hardware. A friend of ours worked for

the company that supplied the donor bone and the hardware. He was in

on all of the surgery. He said my previous fusion was very complete

after thirteen years, making it so hard to remove the old hardware. I

have it as a keepsake. He said I would really cringe if I saw a

video of them removing it. They use a surgically speced and sterile

battery powered drill, just like Home Depot only $1000's more and a

hammer and chisel. No wonder I was so sore the next week. Also my

Neurosurgeon had a pinched nerve in his neck at the time. I can't

imagine standing and being bent over, actually holding someone's

spine in my hand for 12 hours with a pinched nerve. Later that year

his Father also a Neurosurgeon fixed his pinch. Dave