Re: use of herbs

[Guest guest]

I have also went with herbs the natural way. I got sick from some of that too.

My Ins wont pay for Herbs so that was a hardship and I ended up in the hospital

with Congestive Heart failure. As far a the pharmaceutical companies, I don't

trust them either.it is hard to know what to do, the doctors are at a loss too.

I dont know why but the herbs and meds do just the opposite of what they are

supposed to do.

Geri

[Guest guest]

Geri and group,

So sorry to hear you're having so much trouble finding what works for you Geri.

I used to take a bunch of stuff because I thought it would help me. And it did

at first. I think because I was so defieceint in a lot of nutrients. What I

didn't realise was that all the fillers were building up in my system. So I got

off of everything and did the trial and error thing with my diet while doing

more research.

I discovered I had a lot of food and so called medicine allergies. Notice how I

say, so called medicine. After I got my diet straightened out and my immune

system back I added vitamins and herbs back in.

Back in 2000 my doctor at the time put me on Vioox for arthritis. It worked

great but then after a month it wasn't working as well so he doubled the dosage.

After a couple days of that I fainted. So he told me to take ibreprofrin. Plus I

was taking an asprin a day because

he said it prevents heart disease.

Well, about three years later I started getting all these big welts on my

bodylike my face, back?and odd places. My life was busy and I waited 3 more

years before seeing a doctor about it.

The doctor I had then called it cystic acne and wanted me to be on low dose

antibiotics. I told him no thanks because I know how dangerous that is. Shortly

after, I injured my whole right leg from my foot and ankle all the way up,

pulling every muscle, ligament and tendon right before I had to go on a trip so

I took more ibreprofin non stop so I could deal with the pain and enjoy myself

and get around better.

The whole trip I was coughing like crazy and breaking out more. So when I got

back home I started doing research and decided I was alergic to asprin and

anything asprin related. I also learned that asprin actually causes heart

failure. Once I stopped taking any and all asprin related stuff the coughing

stopped but the welts weren't healing fast enough.

So I did more research and discovered I needed zinc as well as other minerals

and good meat (not factory meat) and raw fruits and veggies.I experimented by

going back and forth with the good and bad meat and every time I ate the bad

meat I'd break out more. And every time I ate starchy foods I'd feel like all my

energy was being drained out of me.

So here I am getting organic fresh spinach, carrots and salid mixes and broccoli

as well as organic meats and eggs. I replaced bread with oats, brown rice, flax

seeds and grains that are glutin free. Brown rice is limited to a couple times a

week and oatmeal once a day with my fresh ground flax seeds. The other grains I

use in my chili, meat loaf and whatever else I can put it in. And I never cook

my meat very long, just long enough to brown it. And my daughter chows down, she

loves it.

I also eat 2 to 4 eggs a day, with the yolk and my cholesterol is 135. And even

though I'm not as physically strong as I used to be I feel so much better and

better as time goes on.

There are so many companies out there and you have to be careful and read all

the ingredients and make sure it's pure with no fillers. Some of the fillers

block nutrients and they are gmo's.I only buy a product that is pure. If it is

in gelitin I take it out. Tastes yucky but hey, do I want to be my healthiest? I

say yes and grin and bare it.

I know it is hard to afford vitamins and herbs. It is hard for me being on a

very limited income. But I don't have cable tv and my cell phone is pre-paid so

I'm not obligated and my internet is only $8.95 a month. I believe medicine has

it's place but it's gotten so out of hand and there's more bad guys than good

and I " ve learned to be my own doctor. Don't get me wrong, I love the doctor I

have now but he still practices medicine and is still somewhat under the

pharmacuetil companies.

BTW, they are messing with our alfalpha; the stuff they feed our organically

raised cows, okaying it to be gmo. I hope more people will get involved and try

to help reverse this before they actually start it. I sent my signiture? to

congress. I will die fighting for our freedom to choose healthy food over food

that kills.

[Guest guest]

Joann,

?I never said herbs can get rid of an infection. I also said I believe medicine

has it's place, but it's gotten out of hand. Although, the use of some herbs

like garlic has antibiotic and antifungual properties, as well as being a blood

thinner, among other things. I know I've had infections and got rid of them with

healthy foods, herbs and vitamin and mineral supplements. I was simply trying to

get the message across that people can be well and have a better quality of life

if they go natural and find out what works for them.

Was simply trying to help Geri. She had mentioned heart problems as well, which

is why I mentioned to her about her homocysteine level. Homocystein builds up in

your blood if you don't get enough b-12 and folate and causes heart failure. It

takes B-6 to absorb the other two nutrients. Synthetic vitamins might help at

first but then your body won't use them after a while because it needs real

nutrients.

?Also, you can have normal B-12 levels and still be low on B-12. It's called

B-12 functional defieceincey. If youe homocysteine level is high you are not

getting enough B-12 to kick out your system and it causes heart problems among

other things. Doctors don't usually order the test. You have to ask. There has

to a reason like you're tired all the time, high blood pressure to name a

couple.

This is just my experience.

[Guest guest]

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I agree the volumn of medication prescribed has gotten out of hand. I also

believe the same could be said about " going natural " . I just suggested a

probiotic because that is what has worked for me. What kind of infection did you

have that you were about to get rid of with healthy foods, suppliments, etc.?

Joann

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[Guest guest]

What's the name of this B-12 test?

> Also, you can have normal B-12 levels and still be low on B-12. It's called

B-12 functional defieceincey. If youe homocysteine level is high you are not

getting enough B-12 to kick out your system and it causes heart problems among

other things. Doctors don't usually order the test. You have to ask. There has

to a reason like you're tired all the time, high blood pressure to name a

couple.

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[Guest guest]

One reason why we are tied all the time is because of CMT! It takes us allot

more energy to do things compared to other people that aren't

putting up with a muscle problem.

Geri

[Guest guest]

Joann,

Who knows all that was wrong. My experience with doctors hasn't been very good

since I am on Medicaid. It took me years to get the dr I have now. He's the best

one around as far as I'm concerned. But still I have to do my own research and

tell him what I need or want. He's never disagreed with me, which is good. And

he actually listened to me when I told him I wanted my Labs sent to Lab Corp

instead of Quest.

I'm sure I had staph, as I had ugly boils on my face and other places, as well

as welts. Probably UTI problems as well. No more though, since I've changed

everything. My complexion is healthy now and I haven't broke out with the welts

for three years now.

Any kind of inflammation in the body is infection. Swollon ankles, allergies and

asthma, broncitis, clogged or swallon blood vessels. They are all a form of

infection and the right nutrients do in fact help heal the body.

I probably get too carried away with research and nutrition but I did what I did

and it only makes sense to try to help people.