Guest guest Posted October 27, 2000 Report Share Posted October 27, 2000 Michele- Over on the Arthritiscured egroup, Rich, who writes under the name of " Fox Mulder " talks alot about it. He knows plenty about it; check the archives. Lyn ============= >Hello Everyone, > >Has anyone ever tried something called Prolotherapy? My neighbor was >telling me about it and I found a website for it, >www.prolotherapy.com. It sounds kind of wierd. Injecting sugar water >into painful joints. Has anyone heard of this? My neighbor is >thinking of trying this for her chronic back pain. > >michele > > > > > >To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2000 Report Share Posted October 28, 2000 June- They are part of the email e-groups, along with this rheumatic group. Here's a link to make it easier: http:///messages/arthritiscured (this is where the archived messages are) Lyn ============ >In a message dated 10/28/2000 9:09:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >paniangelica@... writes: > > > > Arthritiscured egroup, > >Lynn >I was interested in this group and cant seem to find it >I searche on E >Can yougiive me any more suggestions on how to get there if you dont mind >Thanks >June _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2000 Report Share Posted October 28, 2000 > Hello Everyone, > > Has anyone ever tried something called Prolotherapy? My neighbor was > telling me about it and I found a website for it, > www.prolotherapy.com. It sounds kind of wierd. Injecting sugar water > into painful joints. Has anyone heard of this? My neighbor is > thinking of trying this for her chronic back pain. > > michele Hi Michele, I was seeing a doctor in Chicago who specializes in this along with my brother, who also has RA. My brother got several prolotherapy treatments but I could not because you cannot be on any drugs that supress inflamation (DMARDS or NSAIDS) when you have treatments because that reaction is part of the therapy. Ethel also had very positive results from the treatments she received in Mexico. The solution injected into the joints is NOT sugar water! What the solution consists of depends on the doctor administering the injections. The idea behind it is that a solution is injected directly into the joint. This solution irritates the joint and tricks the body into thinking it has been injured so the body will send in the " repair team " . This is what happens when you cut yourself and your body's repair team goes in and rebuilds the tissue to heal the cut. In this case, the body is rebuilding cartilage, muscle, tendons, etc. The doc I went to has a web site with good descriptions and I think pictures. It's www.caringmedical.com. You can check it out for more info. You might also do a search on Dr. Milne Ongley. He is the one who treated Ethel. My brother did very well on this until he found out his insurance would not pay for it. He fought it but lost all the way down the line. Since it's a health and welfare fund from his union, he can't sue them. And he can't afford to pay any more for it. It seems so silly to me that insurance companies are willing to pay $30,000 - $40,000 for knee replacements but won't pay $2000 to help you rebuild your own joints. Crazy. Criss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Dr. Ongley's website is www.ongley.com. Chris. On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Criss wrote: > more info. You might also do a search on Dr. Milne Ongley. He is the > one who treated Ethel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 I had no luck in searching, so.... how is Ethel as a result of prolotherapy? Does it need to be repeated? If so, how long does it last? And, of course, what did it cost? Is it covered by insurance? TIA Ann > > > On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Criss wrote: > > > > > > > more info. You might also do a search on Dr. Milne Ongley. He is the > > > > one who treated Ethel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Dr. Ongley's website seems to have changed to www.ongleyonline.com. Chris. On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Bob Zarn wrote: > Is that the correct url? When I click on it I get > www.ongley.com/security instead of just before the slash. > Carol/Piney > rheumatic Re: prolotherapy > > > > > > Dr. Ongley's website is www.ongley.com. > > Chris. > > > > On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Criss wrote: > > > > > more info. You might also do a search on Dr. Milne Ongley. He is the > > > one who treated Ethel. > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Ann, Prolotherapy restored range of motion in my neck, shoulders, and hips. It also restored strength in my arms enabling me to use a knife again, peel vegetables, pick up and carry things, including small grandchildren, etc. The therapy also restored my ability to curl my own hair, sweep with a broom, climb stairs normally, etc. I have not had to repeat it. My feet were in continual pain and I was having great difficulty walking when I went to Ensenada. On the first visit, Dr. Ongley broke up all the scar tissue in the feet which relieved the pain and improved the walking. He also re-built an arch in my right foot. Actually I can do most anything now except tasks that would stress the artificial joints in both hands such as wringing rags. Once you start the therapy, it is very important that you do the proper exercises. I had about four exercises that I had to do three times a day for nine months. Improvement continues (providing you do the exercises as instructed) for nine months after therapy is completed. I had therapy Thursday, Friday and Saturday for 7-1/2 weeks in August and September of 1997. The clinic is now open Wed. thru Sat. Cost varies among doctors and also according to therapy needed. Most clinics can tell you approximate cost if you phone and ask them. Dr. Ongley takes calls from patients and will tell you the approximate cost involved. If I remember correctly, he takes payment up front with a discount for cash. This therapy is very old, and in some cases I understand it is covered by Medicare, but not by most insurances. I'm told Medicare has rules as to how often it may be given. Ethel Ann wrote: > > I had no luck in searching, so.... how is Ethel as a result of > prolotherapy? Does it need to be repeated? If so, how long does it > last? And, of course, what did it cost? Is it covered by insurance? > TIA Ann > > > > > On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Criss wrote: > > > > > > > > > more info. You might also do a search on Dr. Milne Ongley. He is the > > > > > one who treated Ethel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Snooks wrote: > > Ann, > > Prolotherapy restored range of motion in my neck, shoulders, and hips. > It also restored strength in my arms enabling me to use a knife again, > peel vegetables, pick up and carry things, including small > grandchildren, etc. The therapy also restored my ability to curl my own > hair, sweep with a broom, climb stairs normally, etc. WOW! I snipped the rest. I am going to check into this. Also with ins. to see if they cover it. I would love to have my feet stop hurting. Thanks! MA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 > joeysala wrote: > > http://www.wheatons.com/prolotherapy.htm > > Some might find this an interesting article. A friend is having this > done because of a sports injury......will be interesting to see how > she does. Anyone familiar with this process? I had this therapy done in Mexico in 1997 with amazing results. It restored normal range of motion in my neck, shoulders and hips and rebuilt the arch in my right foot. Benefit continued for a full nine months after therapy was completed. After therapy I could do many things that I hadn't been able to do for years - pick up and hold my latest grandbaby, sweep with a broom, curl my own hair, wash my neck, climb a kitchen step stool, go up and down stairs normally, peel and cut vegetables, carve meat, etc. I emailed a report of my experience to the group on my return from Mexico. If interested I can send you a copy. Ethel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 Hi, I thought it was interesting that you said the benefits continued for a full nine months after the treatment. Did you have to repeat the treatment after that and achieve the same great results or did you just gradually of suddenly go back the way you were and stay that way? Thanks, Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 " Gloria M. Tate " wrote: > > Hi, I thought it was interesting that you said the benefits continued for a > full nine months after the treatment. Did you have to repeat the treatment > after that and achieve the same great results or did you just gradually of > suddenly go back the way you were and stay that way? The more time that elapsed after therapy, the more improvement was gained in ROM and strength. Further therapy was not necessary. There are specific exercises I had to do three times a day for those nine months. Failure to do them could leave you worse than when you started. I still do some of the exercises just to keep full range of motion in those joints. I'm back to normal now except for the fact I have to be careful how I use my hands because of the joint replacements (I don't want to have to repeat that surgery), but I can do more than many women my age. Ethel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Hello, My mom has decided to see an M.D. who runs an " alternative care " clinic. He treats arthritis with something called prolotherapy, which consists of injections of an irritant in the joint area that cause the immune system to respond and supposedly heal the area. I e-mailed the doctor and asked if that was such a good idea for people with autoimmune disorders (my mom has RA) and he responded that he only does them when a person is not in an active flare. I'm concerned! Anyone know much about this? Sierra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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