Guest guest Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Joan, Just curious if u would also say that "humming" is anxiety driven?ThanksSent from my iPhone Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself to the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience anxiety for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to communicate, eh? The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is related to anxiety. We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when ill these days - but that's anxiety producing! When he is grinding, I know to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of his anxiety. Here's the abstrract: J Res Pers. 2010 Jun;44(3):402-405. Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? Sutin AR, Terracciano A, Ferrucci L, Costa PT Jr. Source National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. Abstract This study examines the association between personality traits and bruxism, the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with dentist-assessed occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for the association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral health symptoms. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 No idea. That one could probably go different directions as some folks sing or hum when happy!YOu'd have to know your kid....Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen  Joan,  Just curious if u would also say that " humming " is anxiety driven?ThanksSent from my iPhone  Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself to the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience anxiety for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to communicate, eh?  The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is related to anxiety. We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when ill these days - but that's anxiety producing!  When he is grinding, I know to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of his anxiety. Here's the abstrract: J Res Pers. 2010 Jun;44(3):402-405. Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? Sutin AR, Terracciano A, Ferrucci L, Costa PT Jr. Source National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. Abstract This study examines the association between personality traits and bruxism, the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with dentist-assessed occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for the association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral health symptoms. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Well it's not like a happy humming it's more of a stemming kind of hum when he's tired or bored or concentrating on a task or toy. I've been trying to find a way to diminish it at home. He doesn't do it at school. I was just wondering of anyone else had the same situation and if they found a reason for the humming or a way to diminish it.Sent from my iPhone No idea. That one could probably go different directions as some folks sing or hum when happy!YOu'd have to know your kid....Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen Joan, Just curious if u would also say that "humming" is anxiety driven?ThanksSent from my iPhone Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself to the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience anxiety for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to communicate, eh? The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is related to anxiety. We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when ill these days - but that's anxiety producing! When he is grinding, I know to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of his anxiety. Here's the abstrract: J Res Pers. 2010 Jun;44(3):402-405. Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? Sutin AR, Terracciano A, Ferrucci L, Costa PT Jr. Source National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. Abstract This study examines the association between personality traits and bruxism, the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with dentist-assessed occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for the association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral health symptoms. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I think all our kids have various things that fit into that category. And you would know, more than anyone, if it's related to stress. Is he more stressed at home?It could be that developing quality moments iwht him will help. But we all have things we do when we're not engaged with others.....so some " down time " is probaby appropriate. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen  Well it's not like a happy humming it's more of a stemming kind of hum when he's tired or bored or concentrating on a task or toy.  I've been trying to find a way to diminish it at home.  He doesn't do it at school. I was just wondering of anyone else had the same situation and if they found a reason for the humming or a way to diminish it. Sent from my iPhone  No idea. That one could probably go different directions as some folks sing or hum when happy!YOu'd have to know your kid....Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen  Joan,  Just curious if u would also say that " humming " is anxiety driven?ThanksSent from my iPhone  Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself to the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience anxiety for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to communicate, eh?  The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is related to anxiety. We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when ill these days - but that's anxiety producing!  When he is grinding, I know to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of his anxiety. Here's the abstrract: J Res Pers. 2010 Jun;44(3):402-405. Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? Sutin AR, Terracciano A, Ferrucci L, Costa PT Jr. Source National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. Abstract This study examines the association between personality traits and bruxism, the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with dentist-assessed occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for the association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral health symptoms. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 has been grinding all his life; he ground gums when he was a baby and had no teeth. He also hums. Both happen most when he is bored or anxious.BethSent from my iPhone I think all our kids have various things that fit into that category. And you would know, more than anyone, if it's related to stress. Is he more stressed at home?It could be that developing quality moments iwht him will help. But we all have things we do when we're not engaged with others.....so some " down time" is probaby appropriate. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen Well it's not like a happy humming it's more of a stemming kind of hum when he's tired or bored or concentrating on a task or toy. I've been trying to find a way to diminish it at home. He doesn't do it at school. I was just wondering of anyone else had the same situation and if they found a reason for the humming or a way to diminish it. Sent from my iPhone No idea. That one could probably go different directions as some folks sing or hum when happy!YOu'd have to know your kid....Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen Joan, Just curious if u would also say that "humming" is anxiety driven?ThanksSent from my iPhone Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself to the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience anxiety for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to communicate, eh? The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is related to anxiety. We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when ill these days - but that's anxiety producing! When he is grinding, I know to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of his anxiety. Here's the abstrract: J Res Pers. 2010 Jun;44(3):402-405. Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? Sutin AR, Terracciano A, Ferrucci L, Costa PT Jr. Source National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. Abstract This study examines the association between personality traits and bruxism, the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with dentist-assessed occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for the association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral health symptoms. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen = Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (88) Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't think teeth grinding is always related to something negative, IE stress, illness, anxiety. My daughter grinds. I know what the day is going to be like if she starts grinding her teeth within a half hour of getting up in the morning. If she does it then, then she's going to do it all day. (those are the days I wish I drank!) If she doesn't, then she will find some other way to stim for the day. Like moan. Not hum! Humming is a nice comforting sound, moaning is not. And she has an extreamly deep voice so it comes out sounding not at all nice. I think sometime the answer to " why does she do that? " is " because she can " . > > Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself to > the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an > abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on > personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience anxiety > for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to communicate, > eh? The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is > related to anxiety. > > We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when > ill these days - but that's anxiety producing! When he is grinding, I know > to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of his > anxiety. > > Here's the abstrract: > > J Res Pers. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20835403#> 2010 > Jun;44(3):402-405. > Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? > Sutin AR<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Sutin%20AR%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Terracciano A<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Terracciano%20A%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Ferrucci L<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Ferrucci%20L%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Costa PT Jr<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Costa%20PT%20Jr%22%5BAuthor%5D> > . > Source > > National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. > Abstract > > This study examines the association between personality traits and bruxism, > the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling > participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist > and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent > with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of > bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported > teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral > complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing > food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints > (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with dentist-assessed > occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for the > association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral > health symptoms. > Joan > > > Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD > DownSyndromeNutrition.com > twitter: @jmedlen > <http://2012vision.eventbrite.com/> <http://www.downsyndromenutrition.com> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Keep in mind, anxiety is not always a negative thing, either.  " Stress " is not always negative. Good things cause anxiety. Preferred things cause stress and anxiety too. We just associate the negative with the word. All it means is that a person is intensely experiencing the situation...both good and bad. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen  I don't think teeth grinding is always related to something negative, IE stress, illness, anxiety. My daughter grinds. I know what the day is going to be like if she starts grinding her teeth within a half hour of getting up in the morning. If she does it then, then she's going to do it all day. (those are the days I wish I drank!) If she doesn't, then she will find some other way to stim for the day. Like moan. Not hum! Humming is a nice comforting sound, moaning is not. And she has an extreamly deep voice so it comes out sounding not at all nice. I think sometime the answer to " why does she do that? " is " because she can " . > > Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself to > the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an > abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on > personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience anxiety > for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to communicate, > eh? The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is > related to anxiety. > > We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when > ill these days - but that's anxiety producing! When he is grinding, I know > to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of his > anxiety. > > Here's the abstrract: > > J Res Pers. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20835403#> 2010 > Jun;44(3):402-405. > Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? > Sutin AR<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Sutin%20AR%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Terracciano A<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Terracciano%20A%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Ferrucci L<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Ferrucci%20L%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Costa PT Jr<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Costa%20PT%20Jr%22%5BAuthor%5D> > . > Source > > National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. > Abstract > > This study examines the association between personality traits and bruxism, > the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling > participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist > and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent > with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of > bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported > teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral > complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing > food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints > (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with dentist-assessed > occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for the > association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral > health symptoms. > Joan > > > Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD > DownSyndromeNutrition.com > twitter: @jmedlen > <http://2012vision.eventbrite.com/> <http://www.downsyndromenutrition.com> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Severe teeth grinding can lead to tooth loss. My brother, , lost all of his teeth by the time he was in his mid-thirties, as a result of grinding. Despite brushing, use of mouthwash and consistent dental checkups, he gradually lost all his teeth. We were not able to get any help for his grinding. Perhaps there is some new behavioral approach that can help. This is such a common problem, it is ashame that there isn't a solution. Irene's sister To: Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Re: teeth grinding Keep in mind, anxiety is not always a negative thing, either. "Stress" is not always negative. Good things cause anxiety. Preferred things cause stress and anxiety too. We just associate the negative with the word. All it means is that a person is intensely experiencing the situation...both good and bad. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen I don't think teeth grinding is always related to something negative, IE stress, illness, anxiety. My daughter grinds. I know what the day is going to be like if she starts grinding her teeth within a half hour of getting up in the morning. If she does it then, then she's going to do it all day. (those are the days I wish I drank!) If she doesn't, then she will find some other way to stim for the day. Like moan. Not hum! Humming is a nice comforting sound, moaning is not. And she has an extreamly deep voice so it comes out sounding not at all nice. I think sometime the answer to "why does she do that?" is "because she can". > > Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself to > the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an > abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on > personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience anxiety > for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to communicate, > eh? The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is > related to anxiety. > > We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when > ill these days - but that's anxiety producing! When he is grinding, I know > to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of his > anxiety. > > Here's the abstrract: > > J Res Pers. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20835403#> 2010 > Jun;44(3):402-405. > Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? > Sutin AR<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Sutin%20AR%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Terracciano A<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Terracciano%20A%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Ferrucci L<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Ferrucci%20L%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Costa PT Jr<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Costa%20PT%20Jr%22%5BAuthor%5D> > . > Source > > National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. > Abstract > > This study examines the association between personality traits and bruxism, > the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling > participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist > and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent > with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of > bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported > teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral > complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing > food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints > (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with dentist-assessed > occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for the > association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral > health symptoms. > Joan > > > Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD > DownSyndromeNutrition.com > twitter: @jmedlen > <http://2012vision.eventbrite.com/> <http://www.downsyndromenutrition.com> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Irene: Your post is very interesting to me. I have never heard of someone losing their teeth due to grinding them. What actually happened? Did he grind them down to nothing or did the grinding promote decay/disease? There are so many "theories" as to why our kids grind their teeth. I have tried and tried to figure it out and every time I think I have the answer, my daughter changes it up on me! That's pretty much with everything I try to figure out with her it seems. UGH! Heidi Re: Re: teeth grinding Keep in mind, anxiety is not always a negative thing, either. "Stress" is not always negative. Good things cause anxiety. Preferred things cause stress and anxiety too. We just associate the negative with the word. All it means is that a person is intensely experiencing the situation...both good and bad. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen I don't think teeth grinding is always related to something negative, IE stress, illness, anxiety. My daughter grinds. I know what the day is going to be like if she starts grinding her teeth within a half hour of getting up in the morning. If she does it then, then she's going to do it all day. (those are the days I wish I drank!) If she doesn't, then she will find some other way to stim for the day. Like moan. Not hum! Humming is a nice comforting sound, moaning is not. And she has an extreamly deep voice so it comes out sounding not at all nice. I think sometime the answer to "why does she do that?" is "because she can". > > Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself to > the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an > abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on > personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience anxiety > for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to communicate, > eh? The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is > related to anxiety. > > We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when > ill these days - but that's anxiety producing! When he is grinding, I know > to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of his > anxiety. > > Here's the abstrract: > > J Res Pers. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20835403#>; 2010 > Jun;44(3):402-405. > Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? > Sutin AR<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Sutin%20AR%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Terracciano A<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Terracciano%20A%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Ferrucci L<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Ferrucci%20L%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Costa PT Jr<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Costa%20PT%20Jr%22%5BAuthor%5D> > . > Source > > National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. > Abstract > > This study examines the association between personality traits and bruxism, > the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling > participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist > and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent > with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of > bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported > teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral > complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing > food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints > (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with dentist-assessed > occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for the > association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral > health symptoms. > Joan > > > Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD > DownSyndromeNutrition.com > twitter: @jmedlen > <http://2012vision.eventbrite.com/>; <http://www.downsyndromenutrition.com>; > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Heidi,The teeth got loose and fell out over several years. My parents used to take him to a specialist (oral surgeon/dentist), who used to put to sleep once a year to do a cleaning, etc. He was the one who told us the grinding was causing the tooth loss. Losing his teeth was very traumatic for and for all of us. Unfortunately, he cannot wear dentures and is not a candidate for implants. His food has to be very well chopped and moist. We use a food processor to chop salad, meat, etc. I know what you mean about the "theories." It is so frustrating, especially when the theories don't come with solutions. Irene's sister To: Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 4:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: teeth grinding Irene: Your post is very interesting to me. I have never heard of someone losing their teeth due to grinding them. What actually happened? Did he grind them down to nothing or did the grinding promote decay/disease? There are so many "theories" as to why our kids grind their teeth. I have tried and tried to figure it out and every time I think I have the answer, my daughter changes it up on me! That's pretty much with everything I try to figure out with her it seems. UGH! Heidi Re: Re: teeth grinding Keep in mind, anxiety is not always a negative thing, either. "Stress" is not always negative. Good things cause anxiety. Preferred things cause stress and anxiety too. We just associate the negative with the word. All it means is that a person is intensely experiencing the situation...both good and bad. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen I don't think teeth grinding is always related to something negative, IE stress, illness, anxiety. My daughter grinds. I know what the day is going to be like if she starts grinding her teeth within a half hour of getting up in the morning. If she does it then, then she's going to do it all day. (those are the days I wish I drank!) If she doesn't, then she will find some other way to stim for the day. Like moan. Not hum! Humming is a nice comforting sound, moaning is not. And she has an extreamly deep voice so it comes out sounding not at all nice. I think sometime the answer to "why does she do that?" is "because she can". > > Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself to > the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an > abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on > personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience anxiety > for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to communicate, > eh? The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is > related to anxiety. > > We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when > ill these days - but that's anxiety producing! When he is grinding, I know > to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of his > anxiety. > > Here's the abstrract: > > J Res Pers. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20835403#>; 2010 > Jun;44(3):402-405. > Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? > Sutin AR<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Sutin%20AR%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Terracciano A<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Terracciano%20A%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Ferrucci L<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Ferrucci%20L%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Costa PT Jr<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Costa%20PT%20Jr%22%5BAuthor%5D> > . > Source > > National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. > Abstract > > This study examines the association between personality traits and bruxism, > the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling > participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist > and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent > with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of > bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported > teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral > complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing > food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints > (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with dentist-assessed > occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for the > association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral > health symptoms. > Joan > > > Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD > DownSyndromeNutrition.com > twitter: @jmedlen > <http://2012vision.eventbrite.com/>; <http://www.downsyndromenutrition.com>; > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 We've done a lot of oral sensory integration with (20yrs)over the years. It really did cut down on the grinding. He hasn't even asked for a chewy tube or use his vibrating teether , I think a handful of years now. Just occasionally grinds theses days and can usually be redircted or I can figure out the culprit such as an infection. If it is bad I would consult with your ST/OT for oral stim techniques ect. a From: Irene Diamant ; To: < >; Subject: Re: Re: teeth grinding Sent: Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:43:19 PM Severe teeth grinding can lead to tooth loss. My brother, , lost all of his teeth by the time he was in his mid-thirties, as a result of grinding. Despite brushing, use of mouthwash and consistent dental checkups, he gradually lost all his teeth. We were not able to get any help for his grinding. Perhaps there is some new behavioral approach that can help. This is such a common problem, it is ashame that there isn't a solution. Irene's sister To: Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Re: teeth grinding Keep in mind, anxiety is not always a negative thing, either. " Stress " is not always negative. Good things cause anxiety. Preferred things cause stress and anxiety too. We just associate the negative with the word. All it means is that a person is intensely experiencing the situation...both good and bad. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen I don't think teeth grinding is always related to something negative, IE stress, illness, anxiety. My daughter grinds. I know what the day is going to be like if she starts grinding her teeth within a half hour of getting up in the morning. If she does it then, then she's going to do it all day. (those are the days I wish I drank!) If she doesn't, then she will find some other way to stim for the day. Like moan. Not hum! Humming is a nice comforting sound, moaning is not. And she has an extreamly deep voice so it comes out sounding not at all nice. I think sometime the answer to " why does she do that? " is " because she can " . > > Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself to > the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an > abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on > personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience anxiety > for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to communicate, > eh? The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is > related to anxiety. > > We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when > ill these days - but that's anxiety producing! When he is grinding, I know > to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of his > anxiety. > > Here's the abstrract: > > J Res Pers. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20835403#> 2010 > Jun;44(3):402-405. > Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? > Sutin AR<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Sutin%20AR%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Terracciano A<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Terracciano%20A%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Ferrucci L<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Ferrucci%20L%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Costa PT Jr<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Costa%20PT%20Jr%22%5BAuthor%5D> > . > Source > > National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. > Abstract > > This study examines the association between personality traits and bruxism, > the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling > participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist > and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent > with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of > bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported > teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral > complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing > food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints > (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with dentist-assessed > occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for the > association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral > health symptoms. > Joan > > > Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD > DownSyndromeNutrition.com > twitter: @jmedlen > <http://2012vision.eventbrite.com/> <http://www.downsyndromenutrition.com> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Joan, I agree stress isn't always negative. My (ASD) son loves Toys r Us but we can't take him there because of the anxiety it causes. I think in my daughters case grinding doesn't seem to be from negative or positive stress, it just is what it is. I also have a child in my care who is foster but we are in the process of adopting. She came when she was 5 and had to have 2 teeth pulled bucause her grinding ground them down to expose the nerves. I am happy to say she won't loose anymore teeth because of grinding because she quit doing it when she moved in with us. It was obviously related to the stress in her previous home life. Katy > > > > > > Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself > > to > > > the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an > > > abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on > > > personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience > > anxiety > > > for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to > > communicate, > > > eh? The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is > > > related to anxiety. > > > > > > We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when > > > ill these days - but that's anxiety producing! When he is grinding, I > > know > > > to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of > > his > > > anxiety. > > > > > > Here's the abstrract: > > > > > > J Res Pers. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20835403#> 2010 > > > > > Jun;44(3):402-405. > > > Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? > > > Sutin AR< > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Sutin%20AR%22%5BAuthor%5D> > > > , Terracciano A< > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Terracciano%20A%22%5BAuthor%5D> > > > , Ferrucci L< > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Ferrucci%20L%22%5BAuthor%5D> > > > , Costa PT Jr< > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Costa%20PT%20Jr%22%5BAuthor%5D> > > > > > . > > > Source > > > > > > National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. > > > Abstract > > > > > > This study examines the association between personality traits and > > bruxism, > > > the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling > > > participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist > > > and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent > > > with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of > > > bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported > > > teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral > > > complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing > > > food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints > > > (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with > > dentist-assessed > > > occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for > > the > > > association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral > > > health symptoms. > > > Joan > > > > > > > > > Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD > > > DownSyndromeNutrition.com > > > twitter: @jmedlen > > > <http://2012vision.eventbrite.com/> < > > http://www.downsyndromenutrition.com> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Rather than add more stim, we used re-direction.  We reminded Elie to open his mouth, (rest his mouth), or handed him a carrot, or just engaged him in conversation.  He very rarely grinds now - usually if he is either bored or getting angry.  But really easy to distract to another activity.  Knowing that he is bored or angry - because he is grinding, is actually good communication - as we know, see, hear, and pay attention to his mood.  BTW - his teeth are strange DS teeth - both in shape and size altho not sosmething we ever thought about correcting with orthodonture intervention.  But since he was very young and had deep grooves which required some fillings, he has no dental issues - neither gums, teeth, tongue, mouth.  This the dentist attributes to his large amount of drinking  Certainly NOT because he brushes - NEVER-  every six months by the dentist is all.  I hated to add another device because of 1. cleanliness of object  2. ANOTHER thing to keep track of  3.  Weaning him off that.   We've done a lot of oral sensory integration with (20yrs)over the years. It really did cut down on the grinding. He hasn't even asked for a chewy tube or use his vibrating teether , I think a handful of years now. Just occasionally grinds theses days and can usually be redircted or I can figure out the culprit such as an infection. If it is bad I would consult with your ST/OT for oral stim techniques ect. a From: Irene Diamant ; To: < >; Subject: Re: Re: teeth grinding Sent: Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:43:19 PM  Severe teeth grinding can lead to tooth loss. My brother, , lost all of his teeth by the time he was in his mid-thirties, as a result of grinding. Despite brushing, use of mouthwash and consistent dental checkups, he gradually lost all his teeth. We were not able to get any help for his grinding. Perhaps there is some new behavioral approach that can help. This is such a common problem, it is ashame that there isn't a solution.  Irene's sister To: Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Re: teeth grinding  Keep in mind, anxiety is not always a negative thing, either.  " Stress " is not always negative. Good things cause anxiety. Preferred things cause stress and anxiety too. We just associate the negative with the word. All it means is that a person is intensely experiencing the situation...both good and bad. Joan Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD DownSyndromeNutrition.com twitter: @jmedlen  I don't think teeth grinding is always related to something negative, IE stress, illness, anxiety. My daughter grinds. I know what the day is going to be like if she starts grinding her teeth within a half hour of getting up in the morning. If she does it then, then she's going to do it all day. (those are the days I wish I drank!) If she doesn't, then she will find some other way to stim for the day. Like moan. Not hum! Humming is a nice comforting sound, moaning is not. And she has an extreamly deep voice so it comes out sounding not at all nice. I think sometime the answer to " why does she do that? " is " because she can " . > > Teeth grinding is a common topic here. It's hard to desensitize yourself to > the sound of it. hard to know what the cause of it might be. Below is an > abstract I ran across this morning while doing some other writing on > personality. I think we can agree that most of our kids experience anxiety > for one reason or another. Often because of not being able to communicate, > eh? The article points out that teeth grinding (also known as bruxism) is > related to anxiety. > > We had made that connection with Andy - who mostly grinds his teeth when > ill these days - but that's anxiety producing! When he is grinding, I know > to think about what's going on and tease out what might be the cause of his > anxiety. > > Here's the abstrract: > > J Res Pers. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20835403#> 2010 > Jun;44(3):402-405. > Teeth Grinding: Is Emotional Stability related to Bruxism? > Sutin AR<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Sutin%20AR%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Terracciano A<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Terracciano%20A%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Ferrucci L<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Ferrucci%20L%22%5BAuthor%5D> > , Costa PT Jr<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Costa%20PT%20Jr%22%5BAuthor%5D> > . > Source > > National Institute on Aging, NIH, DHHS. > Abstract > > This study examines the association between personality traits and bruxism, > the repetitive grinding or clenching of teeth. Community-dwelling > participants (N = 470) had a comprehensive oral examination by a dentist > and completed a dental history and personality questionnaires. Consistent > with the literature on state anxiety and depression as antecedents of > bruxism, Neuroticism-related traits were associated with self-reported > teeth grinding. These traits were also associated with other oral > complaints often associated with anxiety (jaw clicks, difficulty chewing > food, and dry mouth), but not with more general oral health complaints > (unhealthy gums, bleeding gums, and canker sores) or with dentist-assessed > occlusal wear or tongue indentations. This study provides evidence for the > association between Neuroticism and bruxism and other stress-related oral > health symptoms. > Joan > > > Joan Guthrie Medlen, MEd, RD > DownSyndromeNutrition.com > twitter: @jmedlen > <http://2012vision.eventbrite.com/> <http://www.downsyndromenutrition.com> > -- Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. 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