RE: acyclovir instead of valtrex

[Guest guest]

Bloody hell, that's interesting

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of you some

> > > words of caution.

> > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very

> powerful

> > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if liver

> enzyme

> > > were

> > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys causing

> > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains, prescribe

> such

> > > long courses.

> > > >

> > > > PS

> > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see my

> earlier

> > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Natasa,

As you mention Acyclovir IS used long term in a life threating condition such as

AIDS,cancer etc ie for people on a verge of immuno-collapse!

Acyclovir and other antivirals can only be efficaceous in suppressing

reoccurrence if given within a few days after the very first herpetic

manifestation; after that it's only preventing the virus

to expand its reservoirs around the body for later infections.

UV, trauma, shaving etc can trigger the infections.

At the end of the day it's a drug and as such will have long term effects, no

matter what. I am only saying this as people assume it is safe-there is no such

a thing as a safe drug, only a safe dose! (first thing to remember)

Genes and drug levels play a huge role in side effects/toxic events.

I was merely pointing out that Acyclovir (and any other drug) should be treated

with respect and caution.

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of you some

> > > words of caution.

> > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very

> powerful

> > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if liver

> enzyme

> > > were

> > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys causing

> > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains, prescribe

> such

> > > long courses.

> > > >

> > > > PS

> > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see my

> earlier

> > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

so sorry guys 400 mg x 3 daily ... typo error

> >

> > Thanks , Sam is 15, I've been putting this off for years, for the last

> > two on being offered the treatment, I know his base issues are viral,

> > liver enzymes always held up with other treatments but then really we've

done

> > nowt long term that would put them up. We are testing pre and any worries

> > will test post also.

> >

> > As you might expect, School are more comfortable with Rx then vitamin C a

> > gram at a time................sigh

> >

> > Mx

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 22/04/2012 20:13:40 GMT Daylight Time,

> > oscar_barba_uk@ writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> >

> > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of you some words

> > of caution.

> > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very powerful drug

> > when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if liver enzyme were

> > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys causing ever

> > lasting damage!

> > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains, prescribe such long

> > courses.

> >

> >

> > PS

> > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see my earlier

> > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I hear you , on the other hand I don't see parents here not being

cautious. One must always weigh benefits versus risks (versus the risk

of not doing anything...).

Natasa

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > >

> > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of you

some

> > > > words of caution.

> > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very

> > powerful

> > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if liver

> > enzyme

> > > > were

> > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys

causing

> > > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains,

prescribe

> > such

> > > > long courses.

> > > > >

> > > > > PS

> > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see my

> > earlier

> > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Do you think that for most of our children it might be better to focus on

building health through more natural means (diet and supplements) rather than

using anti-viral medication? As the drugs never eliminate the virus, only reduce

it temporarily, then in the long term isn't the only realistic path to try and

build health?

Margaret

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > >

> > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of you some

> > > > words of caution.

> > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very

> > powerful

> > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if liver

> > enzyme

> > > > were

> > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys causing

> > > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains, prescribe

> > such

> > > > long courses.

> > > > >

> > > > > PS

> > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see my

> > earlier

> > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

depends on how you see autism, imo it is a serious condition requiring

serious approaches ... if it was possible to do through diet and

supplements only most of our kids would be recovered by now. Also

remember that some supplements can be as powerful as drugs (including

side effects), not to mention herbs, which are basically crude drugs ...

Natasa

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of

you some

> > > > > words of caution.

> > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very

> > > powerful

> > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if

liver

> > > enzyme

> > > > > were

> > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys

causing

> > > > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains,

prescribe

> > > such

> > > > > long courses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PS

> > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see

my

> > > earlier

> > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

In theory they should only work short term, but in practice you often hear the opposite. I know of few kids who have been on valtrex for very long time and do very well on it but still need it, ie regress without it. For some it doesn't work at all, for some it works short term and they stop and keep gains. It would be great to have all answers in black and white...Nx> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi All,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of> > you some> > > > > > > words of caution.> > > > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very> > > > > powerful> > > > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if> > liver> > > > > enzyme> > > > > > > were> > > > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys> > causing> > > > > > > ever lasting damage!> > > > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains,> > prescribe> > > > > such> > > > > > > long courses.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > PS> > > > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see> > my> > > > > earlier> > > > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Do you think those who have a severe reaction behaviourly (not like Kaths lass with other stuff) that this means they need them? I have mostly always felt that with natural AB's AF's etc. The aggression on Valtrex was what made me stop that..........

Mandi x

PS we still have the viral rash from restarting Z-Natural.........

In theory they should only work short term, but in practice you often hear the opposite. I know of few kids who have been on valtrex for very long time and do very well on it but still need it, ie regress without it. For some it doesn't work at all, for some it works short term and they stop and keep gains. It would be great to have all answers in black and white...Nx> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi All,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of> > you some> > > > > > > words of caution.> > > > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very> > > > > powerful> > > > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if> > liver> > > > > enzyme> > > > > > > were> > > > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys> > causing> > > > > > > ever lasting damage!> > > > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains,> > prescribe> > > > > such> > > > > > > long courses.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > PS> > > > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see> > my> > > > > earlier> > > > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

See I would run with this and LDM 100 3 months on 6 weeks off but all sorts of fuss with school over zeolites, lord knows what they would make of LDM100

Mx

PS we still have the viral rash from restarting Z-Natural.........

[Guest guest]

I get what you mean Margaret, I really do.

But Sam has been SCD for 6 and a half years. I have never touched medication

with him in all that time except some IV antibiotics when he was in hospital for

a blood clot.

Everything I have done has been naturals. Have gone down the natural anti viral

route and got rashes but still always end up in the same place.

Sam's gut is not healed, in fact we have found out recently he has inflammation

in many areas, he has many things wrong with him, and naturals are obviously not

touching them.

Goyal told me I had managed to get Sam where he is today (a different diagnosis)

through what I have done but it can only take you so far. I wish I had not been

out off the medicine side of things until now.

Sam is responding slowly but well to anti virals and antibiotics and it's time

we got to move on. I don't believe we have have shifted from

Where we are now unless I had gone to see Goyal.

Naturals have their place in Sams , but they will

Not enable him to meet his full health and potential.

Kirsty

X

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of you some

> > > > > words of caution.

> > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very

> > > powerful

> > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if liver

> > > enzyme

> > > > > were

> > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys causing

> > > > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains, prescribe

> > > such

> > > > > long courses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PS

> > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see my

> > > earlier

> > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What I find most interesting about all this is the fact that some people are

completely immune to HIV because their immune system does the right thing. I

also think it doesn't really matter if you have a virus forever, as long as your

immune system keeps it turned off. Loads of us have the herpes virus that gives

you cold sores, but never have a cold sore as long as we live, so not really

suffering any effects. And so, for me, any of the antivirals, whether natural

or valtrex, etc, are really part of the effort you are making to get you to that

point, where your immune system is doing the right thing, because clearly it is

possible.

For some very lucky few people, valtrex is enough. As is the case with these

sorts of stories, they get widely publicized (and I don't just mean valtrex, I

mean any single intervention). For most of our kids, they need an enormous

amount of help to get them where they need to be and so we most often don't hear

about the loads of kids who did try Valtrex, or whatever 'big name' intervention

it is, and didn't see the recovery or big improvements. It seems impossible for

people who have seen recovery on what is, in comparison to what most people will

have to do, very little effort. So, you get for example GAPS fanatics or

chelation fanatics or Valtrex fanatics who think that because they kind of won a

lottery that the rest of us aren't doing " it " properly. But based on what I've

seen over the last many years, most of our kids need A and B and C and D and E

and then A again, etc.

This isn't meant to be discouraging, although I realize through living it that

it certainly is. I'm saying it because this really really is not the way I

thought of things when I started biomed, and had I a different mind set then, I

think I would have made more informed decisions.

Anita

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > >

> > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of you some

> > > > words of caution.

> > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very

> > powerful

> > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if liver

> > enzyme

> > > > were

> > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys causing

> > > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains, prescribe

> > such

> > > > long courses.

> > > > >

> > > > > PS

> > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see my

> > earlier

> > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Of course, we all have to appreciate that medicines (and supplements too) should

be treated with caution. It feels entirely at odds to be bombarding my son with

strong anti biotics at the moment. However, presumably that course of action

taken in a more timely way would have meant a shorter course, at a lower dosage.

I don't think we can overestimate how erratic some children's immune systems

have got. Tom's is shot to pieces - it's on volume 12, all the time. The only

time his autistic symptoms diminish is when he's got a cold. It's only in the

past year that having a cold has led to a proper runny nose and cough, even the

occasional sneeze, which we've hardly heard in his whole life. Before that he

had what was more like an internal cold. All the irritation and illness but

none of the symptoms that alleviate the discomfort. Still got IGe of over 1300,

still no " frank " allergies, DNase of 300, ammonia levels of 60, high mercury and

genetic fragility to toxins. I'm not comparing him to someone with HIV but I

don't think we're comparing apples with apples if we're compare kids like ours

with " normal " patients.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > >

> > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of you some

> > > > words of caution.

> > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very

> > powerful

> > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if liver

> > enzyme

> > > > were

> > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys causing

> > > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains, prescribe

> > such

> > > > long courses.

> > > > >

> > > > > PS

> > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see my

> > earlier

> > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This has nothing to do with acycloir but I have been reading about worms excreting loads of ammonia. (You mentioned beow high levels) High ammonia excreted by helminths (worms) is talked about in this article.http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3279114?uid=3738032 & uid=2 & uid=4 & sid=47698923098517Maybe the high levels seen often in the kids has something to do with parasites. The same parasites could be taking full use of the supplements given including the zinc, selenium, vitamin A which are all good anti-virals. So while one may be thinking that one is giving plenty of supplements, they actually may not be for the child's use after all. It's not a nice thought but it's one I think should be taken seriously. A child with immunity problems and

constipation is very vulnerable to parasites.Just a thought To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2012, 14:34 Subject: Re: acyclovir instead of valtrex

Of course, we all have to appreciate that medicines (and supplements too) should be treated with caution. It feels entirely at odds to be bombarding my son with strong anti biotics at the moment. However, presumably that course of action taken in a more timely way would have meant a shorter course, at a lower dosage. I don't think we can overestimate how erratic some children's immune systems have got. Tom's is shot to pieces - it's on volume 12, all the time. The only time his autistic symptoms diminish is when he's got a cold. It's only in the past year that having a cold has led to a proper runny nose and cough, even the occasional sneeze, which we've hardly heard in his whole life. Before that he had what was more like an internal cold. All the irritation and illness but none of the symptoms that alleviate the discomfort. Still got IGe of over 1300, still no "frank" allergies, DNase of 300, ammonia levels of 60, high mercury and

genetic fragility to toxins. I'm not comparing him to someone with HIV but I don't think we're comparing apples with apples if we're compare kids like ours with "normal" patients.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > >

> > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of you some

> > > > words of caution.

> > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very

> > powerful

> > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if liver

> > enzyme

> > > > were

> > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys causing

> > > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains, prescribe

> > such

> > > > long courses.

> > > > >

> > > > > PS

> > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see my

> > earlier

> > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

btw those who are completely immune - nothing to do with functioning of

their immune system, but to do with a genetic 'glitch' (no receptors for

HIV to enter the cell through..). But I get the bigger picture you are

describing...

Natasa

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of

you some

> > > > > words of caution.

> > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very

> > > powerful

> > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if

liver

> > > enzyme

> > > > > were

> > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys

causing

> > > > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains,

prescribe

> > > such

> > > > > long courses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PS

> > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see

my

> > > earlier

> > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

mmm not sure, were there any positives at all?

nxx

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some

of

> > > you some

> > > > > > > > words of caution.

> > > > > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a

very

> > > > > > powerful

> > > > > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried

if

> > > liver

> > > > > > enzyme

> > > > > > > > were

> > > > > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the

kidneys

> > > causing

> > > > > > > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains,

> > > prescribe

> > > > > > such

> > > > > > > > long courses.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > PS

> > > > > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of

work-see

> > > my

> > > > > > earlier

> > > > > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Never a truer word written

Fellow Old Timer

Mx

For some very lucky few people, valtrex is enough. As is the case with these sorts of stories, they get widely publicized (and I don't just mean valtrex, I mean any single intervention). For most of our kids, they need an enormous amount of help to get them where they need to be and so we most often don't hear about the loads of kids who did try Valtrex, or whatever 'big name' intervention it is, and didn't see the recovery or big improvements. It seems impossible for people who have seen recovery on what is, in comparison to what most people will have to do, very little effort. So, you get for example GAPS fanatics or chelation fanatics or Valtrex fanatics who think that because they kind of won a lottery that the rest of us aren't doing "it" properly. But based on what I've seen over the last many years, most of our kids need A and B and C and D and E and then A again, etc.

[Guest guest]

None but we only did ten days and the aggression was getting worse. DG thinks inflammation and wants him on steroids for the first week of Aciclyvir

Mx

mmm not sure, were there any positives at all?nxx> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hi All,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give someof> > > you some> > > > > > > > words of caution.> > > > > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is avery> > > > > > powerful> > > > > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worriedif> > > liver> > > > > > enzyme> > > > > > > > were> > > > > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in thekidneys> > > causing> > > > > > > > ever lasting damage!> > > > > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains,> > > prescribe> > > > > > such> > > > > > > > long courses.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > PS> > > > > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line ofwork-see> > > my> > > > > > earlier> > > > > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Yes - Tom def doesn't have worms but I'm sure there's a party going on on there

of the tiny little buggers

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some of you some

> > > > > words of caution.

> > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a very

> > > powerful

> > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried if liver

> > > enzyme

> > > > > were

> > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the kidneys causing

> > > > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains, prescribe

> > > such

> > > > > long courses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PS

> > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of work-see my

> > > earlier

> > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sam has had them before when he was little and had bronchiolitis but have heard recently they can cause nasty headaches so a tad worried about that

Mx

Prednisone turned Tom into a vampire. Not in temperament, in looks. Really bizarre. Blue white face, blood red/blue lips. We had to stop after just about 3 days, never got to taper. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi All,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some> of> > > > you some> > > > > > > > > words of caution.> > > > > > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a> very> > > > > > > powerful> > > > > > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried> if> > > > liver> > > > > > > enzyme> > > > > > > > > were> > > > > > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the> kidneys> > > > causing> > > > > > > > > ever lasting damage!> > > > > > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains,> > > > prescribe> > > > > > > such> > > > > > > > > long courses.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > PS> > > > > > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of> work-see> > > > my> > > > > > > earlier> > > > > > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

To me that sounds more like it was interfering/lowering his serotonin

for some reason (kicking in interferon/IDO possibly?), therefore

agression! Not sure if steroids would help with that, might do?

Also might be worth trying him on 5-htp and/or theanine beforehand, or

upping if he is already on those.

(Btw NOT tryptophan, because if this pathway above is involved

tryptophan might make it all worse)

N

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give

some

> of

> > > > you some

> > > > > > > > > words of caution.

> > > > > > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir)

is a

> very

> > > > > > > powerful

> > > > > > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be

worried

> if

> > > > liver

> > > > > > > enzyme

> > > > > > > > > were

> > > > > > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the

> kidneys

> > > > causing

> > > > > > > > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > > > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of

gains,

> > > > prescribe

> > > > > > > such

> > > > > > > > > long courses.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > PS

> > > > > > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of

> work-see

> > > > my

> > > > > > > earlier

> > > > > > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Doctor precribed them years ago for my eldest Son, said they would make him euphoric, but he was miserable as sin on them, constantly whinning, poor thing and it made him puff up like mitchelin man, so then every time he went into status epilepticus, they couldnt find a vein to canulate him! And the prednisolone never worked as it was prescribe to try and help control his fits he was having 60 plus per day! x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:07:27 -0400Subject: Re: Re: acyclovir instead of valtrex

Sam has had them before when he was little and had bronchiolitis but have heard recently they can cause nasty headaches so a tad worried about that

Mx

Prednisone turned Tom into a vampire. Not in temperament, in looks. Really bizarre. Blue white face, blood red/blue lips. We had to stop after just about 3 days, never got to taper. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi All,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give some> of> > > > you some> > > > > > > > > words of caution.> > > > > > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir) is a> very> > > > > > > powerful> > > > > > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be worried> if> > > > liver> > > > > > > enzyme> > > > > > > > > were> > > > > > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the> kidneys> > > > causing> > > > > > > > > ever lasting damage!> > > > > > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of gains,> > > > prescribe> > > > > > > such> > > > > > > > > long courses.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > PS> > > > > > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of> work-see> > > > my> > > > > > > earlier> > > > > > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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also in theory niacinamide (high dose) should help here, although in

practice often doesn't work... but if he tolerates probably worth adding

to 5-htp as well. I have heard from one or two that normal-release

niacin works better for them for moods instead of niacinamide (though

'in theory' it shouldn't have an effect here .

Natasa

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give

> some

> > of

> > > > > you some

> > > > > > > > > > words of caution.

> > > > > > > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir)

> is a

> > very

> > > > > > > > powerful

> > > > > > > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be

> worried

> > if

> > > > > liver

> > > > > > > > enzyme

> > > > > > > > > > were

> > > > > > > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in

the

> > kidneys

> > > > > causing

> > > > > > > > > > ever lasting damage!

> > > > > > > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of

> gains,

> > > > > prescribe

> > > > > > > > such

> > > > > > > > > > long courses.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > PS

> > > > > > > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line

of

> > work-see

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > > earlier

> > > > > > > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Niacinamide was one of the supps I used to give at home 500mg at night but was dropped when he went into school, AC recommends it for MCS, which DING DONG light bulb moment I Have realised is better in me since chelation, nice to have a positive to balance out the yeast bubble I live in!

Mx

also in theory niacinamide (high dose) should help here, although inpractice often doesn't work... but if he tolerates probably worth addingto 5-htp as well. I have heard from one or two that normal-releaseniacin works better for them for moods instead of niacinamide (though'in theory' it shouldn't have an effect here .Natasa> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hi All,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > As the subject has come up again I thought I give> some> > of> > > > > you some> > > > > > > > > > words of caution.> > > > > > > > > > > Acyclovir (or Valtrex, the prodrug of Acyclovir)> is a> > very> > > > > > > > powerful> > > > > > > > > > drug when plenty of side effects and I would be> worried> > if> > > > > liver> > > > > > > > enzyme> > > > > > > > > > were> > > > > > > > > > > elevated- at high doses it could accumulate in the> > kidneys> > > > > causing> > > > > > > > > > ever lasting damage!> > > > > > > > > > > I am surprised doctors, though with the view of> gains,> > > > > prescribe> > > > > > > > such> > > > > > > > > > long courses.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > PS> > > > > > > > > > > Just in case you are wondering, this is my line of> > work-see> > > > > my> > > > > > > > earlier> > > > > > > > > > posts on Acyclovir v Valtrex and their differences.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>