Re: Sodium bicarbonate

April 27, 2012

Do you still have the link ? My mum wants to do detox after chemo.Kasia

April 27, 2012

I originally started reading about it because of the Mercola article and then

came across the other link.

http://sodiumbicarbonate.imva.info/

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/20/winning-the-war-on\

-cancer.aspx

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> Do you still have the link ? My mum wants to do detox after chemo.

> Kasia

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May 1, 2012

Hi ,

We recently used sodium bicarbonate baths for skin rashing and found them very

helpful.

I found a paper on this (I'll paste the summary below).

I remember the vitamin k protocol recommended sodium bicarbonate baths (we felt

they were good but didn't use the large quantity recommended by the protocol).

The vitamin k protocol also recommended electrolyte drinks that could be made

with honey, sodium bicarbonate and potassium chloride (from memory that was one

of the recipe variants).

Best wishes, Sandy

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15897164

Old fashioned sodium bicarbonate baths for the treatment of psoriasis in the era

of futuristic biologics: an old ally to be rescued.

Verdolini R, Bugatti L, Filosa G, Mannello B, Lawlor F, Cerio RR.

Source

Dermatology Unit, St 's Hospital, London, UK. rverdolini@...

Abstract

BACKGROUND:

For centuries, medicated baths have been one of the first lines of treatment for

psoriasis. Even today, with sophisticated immunosuppressive treatments

available, Dead Sea salts and spa waters are recognized to be beneficial in the

management of psoriatic patients.

OBJECTIVE:

To assess statistically the efficacy of sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3) baths in

psoriasis patients. Methods: Thirty-one patients with mild-moderate psoriasis

were admitted to this study; Nineteen patients were treated with sodium

bicarbonate baths and compared with twelve patients who were administered a

placebo. Assessments were made on days 0 and 21.

RESULTS:

Almost all patients who used NaHCO3 reported a statistically valuable

improvement. NaHCO3 baths reduced itchiness and irritation; in general, the

patients themselves recognized a beneficial impact on their psoriasis, so much

so that they have continued to bathe in NaHCO3 even after the end of the study.

CONCLUSION:

We maintain that even with sophisticated immunosuppressive and highly specific

anti-cytokine and anti-chemokines treatments available for the treatment of

psoriasis, an older and often forgotten treatment can still play a role.

PMID: 15897164 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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May 2, 2012

Sandy,

Thanks for that. Was wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing what brand your

using? I want to be sure there's no aluminium in it and don't mind buying from

the UK.

Thanks,

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> > > Do you still have the link ? My mum wants to do detox after chemo.

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May 4, 2012

Hi ,

you are wondering about using Sodium bicarbonate but i was just wondering

whether actually it is the magnesium bicarbonate that is the most helpful in the

combination of the two. Here is a great article by Dr Myhill about magnesium:

http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Magnesium_-_treating_a_deficiency#Is_magnesium.E2\

..80.99s_absorption_blocked.3F

Where she talks about lack of magnesium in CFS and mitochondria failure, she

even mentions epsom salt baths as a way of bumping up magnesium in the body....

just a thought in case you wanted to explore the magnesium aspect of this

treatment.

Nikki

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> I was reading about some natural cancer treatments and found an article

claiming sodium bicarbonate together with Magnesium bicarbonate can help cure

cancer and that it's used to help detox patients after chemo.

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> Then I saw the following:

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> " Magnesium bicarbonate is the Ultimate Mitochondrial Cocktail. Magnesium and

bicarbonate when used together would increase energy in several ways. First,

magnesium bicarbonate protects the natural organic and inorganic phosphate

buffers in the cytoplasm of cells. Second, magnesium bicarbonate neutralizes the

acid produced as a result of metabolic processes and ATP hydrolysis. This allows

more ATP to be hydrolyzed; that is, more energy can be utilized. Magnesium

bicarbonate buffers the mitochondria in body cells from excess acid

concentrations which improves mitochondrial function and allows more ATP to be

produced. "

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> It got me thinking, has anyone used it with our kids? There's a lot of

conflicting info out there on the safety of using it, some claim miracles, that

it increases oxygen and some say it's dangerous to use. Anyone able to tell me a

bit about sodium bicarbonate and if it could be beneficial to our kids?

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> Any info greatly appreciated.

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May 4, 2012

Hi ,

I think I used to use a Care + sodium bicarbonate

http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=care+%2B+sodium+bicarbonate & h\

l=en & client=opera & hs=cY1 & rls=en & channel=suggest & prmd=imvns & bav=on.2,or.r\

_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb & biw=1280 & bih=912 & um=1 & ie=UTF-8 & tbm=shop & cid=47046558632\

58672321 & sa=X & ei=Ef-jT-iqO6fH0QXF96mmCQ & ved=0CHMQ8wIwAA

we used in the electrolyte drinks (it's BP grade so I was happy re.

purity for oral dosing).

(care + also do a BP grade epsom salts)

More recently I've used Doves Farm Sodium bicarb ...ordered bulk via

Infinity - but I'm just using this for cleaning dishes etc. so haven't

thought so much re. purity.

For baths we ordered from justasoap.co.uk

Best wishes, Sandy

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> Sandy,

> Thanks for that. Was wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing what brand

your using? I want to be sure there's no aluminium in it and don't mind

buying from the UK.

> Thanks,

>

May 4, 2012

Thank you very much Sandy and Nikki.

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> > Sandy,

> > Thanks for that. Was wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing what brand

> your using? I want to be sure there's no aluminium in it and don't mind

> buying from the UK.

> > Thanks,

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May 9, 2012

Hi

Sorry for the late post,(hope you and family are keeping well).

The moderator of an Aussie biomed list posted this recently which may be of

interest.

University of Arizona Cancer Center member Dr. Mark Pagel will receive a $2

million grant from the National Institutes of Health to study the effectiveness

of personalized baking soda therapy to treat breast cancer. In other words,

clinical trials on the use of oral sodium bicarbonate for breast cancer

treatments are about to start![1] Obviously there are people in the know who

have understood that sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), that same stuff that can

save a person's life in the emergency room in a heartbeat, is a primary cancer

treatment option of the safest and most effective kind.

Of course I feel vindicated for everything I wrote in Sodium Bicarbonate – Rich

Man's Poor Man's Cancer Treatment, which still stands as the only full medical

review on the subject of using simple baking soda in the practice of medicine.

When taken orally with water, especially water with high magnesium content, and

when used transdermally in medicinal baths, sodium bicarbonate becomes a

first-line medicinal for the treatment of cancer, kidney disease, diabetes,

influenza and even the common cold. And importantly, it is also a powerful

buffer against radiation exposure, so everyone should be up to speed on its use.

Everybody's physiology is under heavy nuclear attack from strong radioactive

winds that are circling the northern hemisphere.

Actually it is no surprise that a University of Arizona researcher received this

grant because there has been cancer research going on for years there. Dr.

J. Gillies and his colleagues have already demonstrated that

pre-treatment of mice with sodium bicarbonate results in the alkalinization of

the area around tumors. The same researchers reported that bicarbonate increases

tumor pH and also inhibits spontaneous metastases in mice with breast

cancer.[2]It also reduces the rate of lymph node involvement.

I recently published about fungal infections, and breast cancer has been found

to be associated with increased frequency of mold-fermented cheese

consumption.[3] Fungi produce toxic metabolites called mycotoxins[4] that can

cause cancer. Aflatoxin is a mycotoxin with carcinogenic potency that is found

in inferior peanut butter and other nut and dairy products. Researchers in 1993

examined human breast cancer tissue and found significant carcinogenic aflatoxin

within the cancer tissueimplicating aflatoxin and thus fungus as a cause of

breast cancer.[5]

The pH level of our internal fluids affects every cell in our body.

Chronic over-acidity corrodes body tissue, and if left unchecked

will interrupt all cellular activities and functions. In other words,

over-acidity interferes with life itself. It is at the root of cancer.

Sodium bicarbonate medical treatments are the time honored method to " speed up "

the return of the body's bicarbonate levels to normal. Sodium bicarbonate

happens to be one of our most useful medicines as it treats the basic

acid-alkaline axis of human physiology.

The pH of our tissues and body fluids is crucial and central because it affects

and mirrors the state of our health or our inner cleanliness. The closer the pH

is to 7.35-7.45, the higher our level of health and wellbeing. Staying within

this range dramatically increases our ability to resist acute illnesses like

colds and flues as well as the onset of cancer and other diseases. Keeping our

pH within a healthy range also involves necessary lifestyle and dietary changes

that will protect us over the long term while the use of sodium bicarbonate

gives us a jump-start toward increased alkalinity.

The pH scale is like a thermometer showing increases and decreases in the acid

and alkaline content of fluids. Deviations above or below a 7.35-7.45 pH range

in the tightly controlled blood can signal potentially serious and dangerous

symptoms or states of disease. When the body can no longer effectively

neutralize and eliminate the acids, it relocates them within the body's

extra-cellular fluids and connective tissue cells directly compromising cellular

integrity. Conversely when the body becomes too alkaline from too much

bicarbonate in the blood, metabolic alkalosis occurs, which can lead to severe

consequences if not corrected quickly.[6]

Jon Barron presents a way of looking at pH that opens up one of the major

benefits of alkaline water:

Hydrogen ions tie up oxygen. That means that the more acid a liquid is, the less

available the oxygen in it. Every cell in our body requires oxygen for life and

to maintain optimum health. Combine that with what we know about hydrogen ions

and we see that the more acid the blood (the lower its pH), the less oxygen is

available for use by the cells. Without going into a discussion of the chemistry

involved, just understand that it's the same mechanism involved when acid rain

" kills " a lake. The fish literally suffocate to death because the acid in the

lake " binds up " all of the available oxygen. It's not that the oxygen has gone

anywhere; it's just no longer available. Conversely, if you raise the pH of the

lake (make it more alkaline), oxygen is now available and the lake comes back to

life. Incidentally, it's worth noting that cancer is related to an acid

environment (lack of oxygen)—the higher the pH (the more oxygen present in the

cells of the body), the harder it is for cancer to thrive.

Understanding this is important for two reasons: (1) it reveals one of the

primary benefits of alkaline water—more " available " oxygen in the system and (2)

it explains why alkaline water helps fight cancer.

The ocean, the mother of all life, has an average pH of about 8.1.

The ideal pH for blood sits at about 7.4, slightly alkaline—not acidic.

Jon Barron

Barron concludes:

If you're eating well and living cleanly, then yes, you want to drink water with

a naturally occurring pH only slightly above neutral. However, if you are eating

the typical Western diet, high in meat, grains, sodas, and sugars that acidify

the body, then you have a different problem. Your pH balance is now so far out

of normal that you must go beyond normal in the other direction to counter it.

My recommendation for daily drinking water pH is about 7.5-8—depending on how

acid forming your diet is. Long-term consumption of higher pH water should be

reserved for special circumstances. The most famous mountain waters in the

world, waters renowned for their healing properties, are highly alkaline. I'm

referring to the waters coming down from the Himalayas, and specifically to the

waters of the Hunza Valley, which have a pH that runs between 9 and 11.

One does not have to be a doctor to practice pH medicine. Every practitioner of

the healing arts and every mother and father needs to understand how to use

sodium bicarbonate. Bicarbonate deficiency is a real problem that deepens with

age so it really does pay to understand and appreciate what baking soda is all

about.

Dr. Mark Allan Sircus, Ac., OMD, DM (P)

Director International Medical Veritas Association

Doctor of Oriental and Pastoral Medicine

http://publications.imva.info

http://blog.imva.info

All the best

Kenny