Guest guest Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 First thing i would check is his strep titres, strep can cause aggressive behaviours, if he has strep he will need antibiotics. HTH x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Nevin.Penny@...Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:40:16 +0000Subject: Aggressive behaviour! Hello! One of the family from my group is asking urgently some advice.Their 18 year old son becomes very aggressive.Does anyone give some ideas about the supplements or anythings may work for his aggressive behaviour? Ofcourse I don't know the circumstances but recommending a few supplements may be helpful. Thanks All the best nevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Worth trying propranolol if they can get rx. Natasa Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:40:16 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Aggressive behaviour! Hello! One of the family from my group is asking urgently some advice.Their 18 year old son becomes very aggressive.Does anyone give some ideas about the supplements or anythings may work for his aggressive behaviour? Ofcourse I don't know the circumstances but recommending a few supplements may be helpful. Thanks All the best nevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Hi , Sorry to hijack this post, where can I have DS's strep titres tested, I read that PANS / PANDAS article posted yesterday and it is him to a T, his OCD and verbal tics are off the chart. He continues the next series of CEASE Child Poly Vacc & BCG remedies on Tues and his therapist has said she is going to make his weekend remedy (which is usually different from the weeks) one that will help with his OCD and anxiety. So we will see. We have seen some dramatic reactions during his 1st four weeks, rashes, vomitting, diahorrea and his memory from about four years ago seems to have 'unlocked' as he keeps talking about things and people that haven't been seen or mentioned since then. Also to mention he has had coughs, sore throat and other minor illnesses to the point where he has been off school 3 times since starting his remedies, a huge difference to not seeing a doctor or missing school once in the previous 3 years I have been here, his immune system seems to be doing its job! The biggest problem at the moment is def his anxiety and OCD, at times he doesn't even want to leave his room. Thanks, Colleen ------------------------------ > >First thing i would check is his strep titres, strep can cause aggressive behaviours, if he has strep he will need antibiotics. HTH x > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe >From: Nevin.Penny@... >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:40:16 +0000 >Subject: Aggressive behaviour! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello! > > > >One of the family from my group is asking urgently some advice.Their 18 year old son becomes very aggressive.Does anyone give some ideas about the supplements or anythings may work for his aggressive behaviour? Ofcourse I don't know the circumstances but recommending a few supplements may be helpful. > > > >Thanks > > All the best > > > >nevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Under the category " or anything " - so not biomed - I think they should also start from the point of seeing the behaviour as a form of communication and should get help from the NHS mental health service. If his IUQ is under 70 he will be referred to the LD service. There is new draft NICE guidance on adults and autism: the guidlines are strong on recommending a fnctional adssessment. This is a specialist assessment and the local service may not be able to do it properly. If the young man has LD then I recommend looking at the Challenging Behaviour Foundation website. While all this is being set up with the mental health service they can also be doing biomed to see if anything helps. Margaret > > Hello! > > One of the family from my group is asking urgently some advice.Their 18 year old son becomes very aggressive.Does anyone give some ideas about the supplements or anythings may work for his aggressive behaviour? Ofcourse I don't know the circumstances but recommending a few supplements may be helpful. > > Thanks > All the best > > nevin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 PS I assume they have already checked he's not in pain - teeth, gut, ears, inflamed joints, headaches, anything else. Also checked there's no sign of seizure activity. Margaret > > > > Hello! > > > > One of the family from my group is asking urgently some advice.Their 18 year old son becomes very aggressive.Does anyone give some ideas about the supplements or anythings may work for his aggressive behaviour? Ofcourse I don't know the circumstances but recommending a few supplements may be helpful. > > > > Thanks > > All the best > > > > nevin > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 I's start with a bowel clear out, Oxypowder is what I use. Mx Hello!One of the family from my group is asking urgently some advice.Their 18 year old son becomes very aggressive.Does anyone give some ideas about the supplements or anythings may work for his aggressive behaviour? Ofcourse I don't know the circumstances but recommending a few supplements may be helpful.ThanksAll the bestnevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Me too , where can we have the child tested for Strep? can you do it on the NHS? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 And if you do a normal results means nothing..............? SO much so DG said from examining Sam he had it and not to bother to test before he starts AB's Mandi x Me too , where can we have the child tested for Strep? can you do it on the NHS? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Janet in my humble opinion I actually think that can happen if your little one is in contact with children that have been vaccinated with the MMR. One of the things that I was surprised with is that my son never had the MMR but he has anti bodies so how did he got them ??? specially rubella I was never vaccinated and neither was his father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 It's possible to have had rubella and as it's so mild not to notice - it certainly used to be very common to have had it and not to know it. Margaret > > Janet > in my humble opinion I actually think that can happen if your little one is > in contact with children that have been vaccinated with the MMR. > One of the things that I was surprised with is that my son never had the > MMR but he has anti bodies so how did he got them ??? specially rubella I > was never vaccinated and neither was his father. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 That's incredible that he had antibodies for mmr - maybe my son has them also then unbeknown to me from his sisters (both fully-vaxed)or other children then. I think I remember reading Amy Yasko talking of shedding from those who had recently had their jabs and were around stores etc. and how others coming into contact with them can pick viruses up.Coleen, our homeopath had mentionned about this shedding when I asked - she said there is a homeopathic remedy that helps protect against measles that can be used in these circumstances, but I don't know about remedies for the rubella etc as didn't pursue it. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: cmdsdias@...Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:30:51 -0400Subject: Re: Aggressive behaviour! Janet in my humble opinion I actually think that can happen if your little one is in contact with children that have been vaccinated with the MMR. One of the things that I was surprised with is that my son never had the MMR but he has anti bodies so how did he got them ??? specially rubella I was never vaccinated and neither was his father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Hi guys, I am an autism mum plus a homeopath and CEASE therapist. CEASE therapy is ultimately merely another form of applying homeopathy so the remedies given work on an energetic level. Whilst CEASE as a protocol is hugely effective in detoxifying from causative factors (I know this from personal experience with my son as well as with my patients) there is absolutely no chance of shedding causing any problem. When the children detoxify with CEASE they let go of the energetic imprint of whatever toxin is being detoxified. They are not given a material dose of the vaccination/antibiotic/drug, so there is no physical substances released during the detox and no chance of shedding. Interestingly we are finding that each drug detox group has its own mental and emotional picture, and that individuals who have been adversely affected by the use of antibiotics often have a feeling of being under attack and as a protection mechanism will respond to life with aggressive behaviour. Love and best wishes to you all. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Hi a,Could you please tell us more about the improvements you get with the CEASE therapy and do you initially get negatives? Do you use the little pills? How long would it take to detox a child with autism? Can homeopathy work at clearing out strep? Sorry for so many questions but hugely interested. Where are you based? Many thanks, Sue To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe > Sent: Monday, 26 March 2012, 8:25 Subject: Re: Aggressive behaviour! Hi guys, I am an autism mum plus a homeopath and CEASE therapist. CEASE therapy is ultimately merely another form of applying homeopathy so the remedies given work on an energetic level. Whilst CEASE as a protocol is hugely effective in detoxifying from causative factors (I know this from personal experience with my son as well as with my patients) there is absolutely no chance of shedding causing any problem. When the children detoxify with CEASE they let go of the energetic imprint of whatever toxin is being detoxified. They are not given a material dose of the vaccination/antibiotic/drug, so there is no physical substances released during the detox and no chance of shedding. Interestingly we are finding that each drug detox group has its own mental and emotional picture, and that individuals who have been adversely affected by the use of antibiotics often have a feeling of being under attack and as a protection mechanism will respond to life with aggressive behaviour. Love and best wishes to you all. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Hi a, That's very interesting - are you saying that shedding does not occur or that you protect other family members with remedies? I had thought when rashes appear that that was contagious, our homeopathist was taught that when doing, eg measles detox from mmr that this could be contagious (not necessarily but could be). Wouldn't the virus be released from the dna as part of the detox? JanetTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: paulalattimerhomeopath@...Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:25:30 +0100Subject: Re: Aggressive behaviour! Hi guys, I am an autism mum plus a homeopath and CEASE therapist. CEASE therapy is ultimately merely another form of applying homeopathy so the remedies given work on an energetic level. Whilst CEASE as a protocol is hugely effective in detoxifying from causative factors (I know this from personal experience with my son as well as with my patients) there is absolutely no chance of shedding causing any problem. When the children detoxify with CEASE they let go of the energetic imprint of whatever toxin is being detoxified. They are not given a material dose of the vaccination/antibiotic/drug, so there is no physical substances released during the detox and no chance of shedding. Interestingly we are finding that each drug detox group has its own mental and emotional picture, and that individuals who have been adversely affected by the use of antibiotics often have a feeling of being under attack and as a protection mechanism will respond to life with aggressive behaviour. Love and best wishes to you all. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Hello,This is very interesting. I think my son needs detoxifying big time. What can you tell me about a bumpy skin? His skin improved when we did the SCD for a few months , also his behaviour is all over the place. What is shedding?Can i just google CEASE?Ta very muchSent from my iPad Hi guys, I am an autism mum plus a homeopath and CEASE therapist. CEASE therapy is ultimately merely another form of applying homeopathy so the remedies given work on an energetic level. Whilst CEASE as a protocol is hugely effective in detoxifying from causative factors (I know this from personal experience with my son as well as with my patients) there is absolutely no chance of shedding causing any problem. When the children detoxify with CEASE they let go of the energetic imprint of whatever toxin is being detoxified. They are not given a material dose of the vaccination/antibiotic/drug, so there is no physical substances released during the detox and no chance of shedding. Interestingly we are finding that each drug detox group has its own mental and emotional picture, and that individuals who have been adversely affected by the use of antibiotics often have a feeling of being under attack and as a protection mechanism will respond to life with aggressive behaviour. Love and best wishes to you all. a = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Hi Janet, I have posted for views on the CEASE therapist forum and the concensus view seems to be that whilst the detoxification is energetic it may be that in certain individuals they may shed the live vaccine. For a vast majority of vaccine damage individuals they will be holding onto the toxic chemical ingredients of the vaccination but some are burdened by the virus component and the detox then prompts them to shed this. However it is not all the time and appears to be rare. It is not dangerous for the siblings as they are getting the attenuated version of the virus via the normal avenues and not being injected with it straight into their blood stream! Homeopathy is a highly effective complete system of medicine and can deal with any situation which arises as a result of a detox. Hope this clarifies the situation. Best wishes. a x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Hi a, Thanks for getting back and clarification. Can I ask when you say most hold onto the toxic chemicals within the vaccine as opposed to the virus what sort of things so you mean, the presevatives/fixers in them? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: paulalattimerhomeopath@...Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:11:28 +0100Subject: Re: Aggressive behaviour! Hi Janet, I have posted for views on the CEASE therapist forum and the concensus view seems to be that whilst the detoxification is energetic it may be that in certain individuals they may shed the live vaccine. For a vast majority of vaccine damage individuals they will be holding onto the toxic chemical ingredients of the vaccination but some are burdened by the virus component and the detox then prompts them to shed this. However it is not all the time and appears to be rare. It is not dangerous for the siblings as they are getting the attenuated version of the virus via the normal avenues and not being injected with it straight into their blood stream! Homeopathy is a highly effective complete system of medicine and can deal with any situation which arises as a result of a detox. Hope this clarifies the situation. Best wishes. a x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Hi Janet, Exactly. That boils down to individual susceptibility - for some the damaging aspect of a vaccination will the cocktail of chemicals, for others it will be the live vaccine component. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Thank you a- it's a useful insight into how CEASE works. JanetTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: paulalattimerhomeopath@...Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:15:04 +0100Subject: Re: Aggressive behaviour! Hi Janet, Exactly. That boils down to individual susceptibility - for some the damaging aspect of a vaccination will the cocktail of chemicals, for others it will be the live vaccine component. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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