GOOD bacteria contributing to gut inflammation

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This could be why some kids don't tolerate probiotics (mine included) … Especially since lymphoid cells are messed up in autism, and those cells 'tell' bacterial where to go! ScienceDaily (June 6, 2012) — The healthy human intestine is colonized with over 100 trillion beneficial, or commensal, bacteria of many different species. In healthy people, these bacteria are limited to the intestinal tissues and have a number of helpful properties, including aiding in the digestion of food and promoting a healthy immune system.However, when it comes to commensal bacteria, location is key. While commensal bacteria in the intestine provide positive effects, several chronic human diseases, including HIV/AIDS, inflammatory bowel disease, viral hepatitis, and obesity are associated with the spread of these intestinal commensal bacteria to the blood stream and other peripheral tissues, which can cause chronic inflammation. 'Good bugs' that promote normal health can 'turn bad' if found in the wrong location. … http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120606142658.htmGood comment on the article and what could/should be done here http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/gut-immune-cells-keep-beneficial-microbes-in-their-place.17843/

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If a child doesn't tolerate probiotics, and will not have kefir, sauerkraut

etcetc, what would you suggest for good bacteria?

What are the symptoms of not tolerating probiotics?

Thanks

K

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> This could be why some kids don't tolerate probiotics (mine included) Š

> Especially since lymphoid cells are messed up in autism, and those cells

> 'tell' bacterial where to go!

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> ScienceDaily (June 6, 2012) ‹ The healthy human intestine is colonized with

> over 100 trillion beneficial, or commensal, bacteria of many different

> species. In healthy people, these bacteria are limited to the intestinal

> tissues and have a number of helpful properties, including aiding in the

> digestion of food and promoting a healthy immune system.

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> However, when it comes to commensal bacteria, location is key. While

> commensal bacteria in the intestine provide positive effects, several

> chronic human diseases, including HIV/AIDS, inflammatory bowel disease,

> viral hepatitis, and obesity are associated with the spread of these

> intestinal commensal bacteria to the blood stream and other peripheral

> tissues, which can cause chronic inflammation. 'Good bugs' that promote

> normal health can 'turn bad' if found in the wrong location. Š

> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120606142658.htm

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> Good comment on the article and what could/should be done here

> http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/gut-immune-cells-keep-benef

> icial-microbes-in-their-place.17843/

>

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Probiotic suppositories? (not that we've tried them here, no chance) I'm guessing that if below is the case with our kids then any good bacteria taken orally may add to the problem. Symptoms here increased irritability and brain fog/focusing problems. More or less any probiotic we have tried. I've long ago given up on them … Also had same reaction to SCD yogurt. Tried kefir very long time ago and didn't do well on it either. Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:27:06 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: GOOD bacteria contributing to gut inflammation

If a child doesn't tolerate probiotics, and will not have kefir, sauerkraut etcetc, what would you suggest for good bacteria?

What are the symptoms of not tolerating probiotics?

Thanks

K

X

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> This could be why some kids don't tolerate probiotics (mine included) ?

> Especially since lymphoid cells are messed up in autism, and those cells

> 'tell' bacterial where to go!

>

>

> ScienceDaily (June 6, 2012) ? The healthy human intestine is colonized with

> over 100 trillion beneficial, or commensal, bacteria of many different

> species. In healthy people, these bacteria are limited to the intestinal

> tissues and have a number of helpful properties, including aiding in the

> digestion of food and promoting a healthy immune system.

>

> However, when it comes to commensal bacteria, location is key. While

> commensal bacteria in the intestine provide positive effects, several

> chronic human diseases, including HIV/AIDS, inflammatory bowel disease,

> viral hepatitis, and obesity are associated with the spread of these

> intestinal commensal bacteria to the blood stream and other peripheral

> tissues, which can cause chronic inflammation. 'Good bugs' that promote

> normal health can 'turn bad' if found in the wrong location. ?

> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120606142658.htm

>

>

>

> Good comment on the article and what could/should be done here

> http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/gut-immune-cells-keep-benef

> icial-microbes-in-their-place.17843/

>

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Same with Katy, only probiotic she seemed to do ok with was bifido infantalis. I

don't know if it helped , but it didn't make her sick.

Sharon.

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> > This could be why some kids don't tolerate probiotics (mine included) ?

> > Especially since lymphoid cells are messed up in autism, and those cells

> > 'tell' bacterial where to go!

> >

> >

> > ScienceDaily (June 6, 2012) ? The healthy human intestine is colonized with

> > over 100 trillion beneficial, or commensal, bacteria of many different

> > species. In healthy people, these bacteria are limited to the intestinal

> > tissues and have a number of helpful properties, including aiding in the

> > digestion of food and promoting a healthy immune system.

> >

> > However, when it comes to commensal bacteria, location is key. While

> > commensal bacteria in the intestine provide positive effects, several

> > chronic human diseases, including HIV/AIDS, inflammatory bowel disease,

> > viral hepatitis, and obesity are associated with the spread of these

> > intestinal commensal bacteria to the blood stream and other peripheral

> > tissues, which can cause chronic inflammation. 'Good bugs' that promote

> > normal health can 'turn bad' if found in the wrong location. ?

> > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120606142658.htm

> >

> >

> >

> > Good comment on the article and what could/should be done here

> > http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/gut-immune-cells-keep-benef

> > icial-microbes-in-their-place.17843/

> >

>

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Symptoms here increased irritability and brain fog/focusing problems. More or less any probiotic we have tried. I've long ago given up on them … Also had same reaction to SCD yogurt. Tried kefir very long time ago and didn't do well on it either.

Hi Natasa,

Same here, have tried a variety of probiotics over the years and given up, in our case the first signs are increased seizures and ds becomes very irritable exhibiting it through uncontrolled twitching, so I've often pulled out the probiotics.

It's really hard to tell if probiotics benefited the bowels in other ways. The coated tongue, bad breath, thrush that he used to suffer with constantly before biomed all stopped .....then again this might be attributed to other supplements for improving the immune system and eliminating dairy! Would love to know what the bacterial state is like within the gut, its been a long time since we've done any tests.

emily x

> >> > This could be why some kids don't tolerate probiotics (mine included) ?> > Especially since lymphoid cells are messed up in autism, and those cells> > 'tell' bacterial where to go!> > > > > > ScienceDaily (June 6, 2012) ? The healthy human intestine is colonized with> > over 100 trillion beneficial, or commensal, bacteria of many different> > species. In healthy people, these bacteria are limited to the intestinal> > tissues and have a number of helpful properties, including aiding in the> > digestion of food and promoting a healthy immune system.> > > > However, when it comes to commensal bacteria, location is key. While> > commensal bacteria in the intestine provide positive effects, several> > chronic human diseases, including HIV/AIDS, inflammatory bowel disease,> > viral hepatitis, and obesity are associated with the spread of these> > intestinal commensal bacteria to the blood stream and other peripheral> > tissues, which can cause chronic inflammation. 'Good bugs' that promote> > normal health can 'turn bad' if found in the wrong location. ?> > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120606142658.htm> > > > > > > > Good comment on the article and what could/should be done here> > http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/gut-immune-cells-keep-benef> > icial-microbes-in-their-place.17843/> >>

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The more a child 'cant tolerate' a probiotic, the more they need them. The symptoms are the die off effect of candida overgrowth. CEASE therapy can run candida as a detox which would then solve the problem and hugely improved the childs overall health, gut function and their autism. x

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I disagreeNatasa Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 20:28:33 +0100 (BST)To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: GOOD bacteria contributing to gut inflammation

The more a child 'cant tolerate' a probiotic, the more they need them. The symptoms are the die off effect of candida overgrowth.