Guest guest Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 What type of zinc is it? Can cause nausea which can cause behaviours but shold be OK as you are giving with food Mx Hi everyone, We have recently tried to increase DSs dose of zinc and we are now finding his behaviour more difficult and he has problems falling to sleep in the evening. He has also shown aggression to me. Is there another supp that should be given alongside zinc to make it tolerated better? We give it with food, morning and evening. Can zinc be a problem for kids who have problems with oxalates? Really don't want to drop dose back down because we feel that it is helping him in other ways. TIA Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 It is zinc picolinate by Metabolics. Have increased from 1capsule to 2 capsules over a 2week period. Could this cause die-off or increase yeast for any reason? Thnx Sue To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2012, 9:36 Subject: Re: Zinc What type of zinc is it? Can cause nausea which can cause behaviours but shold be OK as you are giving with food Mx Hi everyone, We have recently tried to increase DSs dose of zinc and we are now finding his behaviour more difficult and he has problems falling to sleep in the evening. He has also shown aggression to me. Is there another supp that should be given alongside zinc to make it tolerated better? We give it with food, morning and evening. Can zinc be a problem for kids who have problems with oxalates? Really don't want to drop dose back down because we feel that it is helping him in other ways. TIA Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Not something that could cause die off IMHO, I have never used that type of zinc Mx It is zinc picolinate by Metabolics. Have increased from 1capsule to 2 capsules over a 2week period. Could this cause die-off or increase yeast for any reason? Thnx Sue To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2012, 9:36Subject: Re: Zinc What type of zinc is it? Can cause nausea which can cause behaviours but shold be OK as you are giving with food Mx Hi everyone, We have recently tried to increase DSs dose of zinc and we are now finding his behaviour more difficult and he has problems falling to sleep in the evening. He has also shown aggression to me. Is there another supp that should be given alongside zinc to make it tolerated better? We give it with food, morning and evening. Can zinc be a problem for kids who have problems with oxalates? Really don't want to drop dose back down because we feel that it is helping him in other ways. TIA Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Doesn't zinc inactivate DPP-IV i read somewhere and so shouldn't be given with enzymes containing that as the enzymes would not then have an effect - which perhaps would then affect behaviour. Zinc timing seems really difficult given the nauseous feelings it can cause without food. (When I take Zc Picolinate without food before bed ie optimum for absorption - I feel v. sick). CSubject: ZincTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 4:34 Hi everyone, We have recently tried to increase DSs dose of zinc and we are now finding his behaviour more difficult and he has problems falling to sleep in the evening. He has also shown aggression to me. Is there another supp that should be given alongside zinc to make it tolerated better? We give it with food, morning and evening. Can zinc be a problem for kids who have problems with oxalates? Really don't want to drop dose back down because we feel that it is helping him in other ways. TIA Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Zinc won;t knock out enzymes completely, it may have a slight effect Mx Doesn't zinc inactivate DPP-IV i read somewhere and so shouldn't be given with enzymes containing that as the enzymes would not then have an effect - which perhaps would then affect behaviour. Zinc timing seems really difficult given the nauseous feelings it can cause without food. (When I take Zc Picolinate without food before bed ie optimum for absorption - I feel v. sick). C Subject: ZincTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 4:34 Hi everyone, We have recently tried to increase DSs dose of zinc and we are now finding his behaviour more difficult and he has problems falling to sleep in the evening. He has also shown aggression to me. Is there another supp that should be given alongside zinc to make it tolerated better? We give it with food, morning and evening. Can zinc be a problem for kids who have problems with oxalates? Really don't want to drop dose back down because we feel that it is helping him in other ways. TIA Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I remember reading Sue that larger doses of zinc can activate glutamate receptors? Maybe I dreamt that too. What I mgiht suggest is another form. Perhaps monomethionine? Anita > > Hi everyone, We have recently tried to increase DSs dose of zinc and we are now finding his behaviour more difficult and he has problems falling to sleep in the evening. He has also shown aggression to me. Is there another supp that should be given alongside zinc to make it tolerated better? We give it with food, morning and evening. Can zinc be a problem for kids who have problems with oxalates? Really don't want to drop dose back down because we feel that it is helping him in other ways. TIA Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 This is what I received from Devin Houston when I wrote him a few years ago. Maybe he has a bit more info now? I did what he said because ds had such bad disgestion and such a high need for zinc. Hi Anita; It is true that DPP IV found in human tissue can be inhibited by zinc, but we don't know if this applies to the fungal derived dpp IV. Also, any inhibition would be temporary and gone when the zinc is away from the enzyme. Since some level of zinc is present in all tissues where DPP IV works, I don't think it is much to worry about. What I suggest is giving the zinc away from the enzymes, for example, say an hour after a meal rather than with the meal. This will ensure that the enzyme will work on the food before the zinc is present. Best regards, Devin Houston, Ph.D. President/CEO Houston Nutraceuticals, Inc www.houstonni.com > > > Subject: Zinc > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 4:34 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, We have recently tried to increase DSs dose of zinc and we are now finding his behaviour more difficult and he has problems falling to sleep in the evening. He has also shown aggression to me. Is there another supp that should be given alongside zinc to make it tolerated better? We give it with food, morning and evening. Can zinc be a problem for kids who have problems with oxalates? Really don't want to drop dose back down because we feel that it is helping him in other ways. TIA Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I don't have an answer as such but wanted to say that we have always had to be very careful with zinc dosages and behaviour. Used to use bio care zinc ascorbate and would monitor very carefully whether chris was tolerating so we could get upto his max dose - increasing one drop at a time. Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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