Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Cant help you but my son has been the same recently, although I have noticed he has calmed down a bit lately. He just started on Artesunate for his Lyme as well as a few other new supps to support it, and after a few days of worsening wailing (and we have the banging things too) he has definitely started to be quieter. He had been on a 2 week break from his antibiotics and the shouting was off the scale during that. He was on Nystatin and Diatom as well as probiotics etc, Be interested to hear if anyone else has any input? Sophie x x > > Hi All > > Jack has been shouting constantly at the top of his voice while running > around banging two objects together for about two weeks now. > > It goes on for at least a couple of hours every night, can't even relax > with a cup of tea at gone 9pm only want to sit down for half hour before I > fall asleep from exhaustion! > > Yeast? Any ideas anyone as I am just about out of patience and locking > myself in the bathroom is not an option! > > Marina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 yeast sounds likely to me or a bacterial infection? He sounds dysregulated so lots of touch and joining should help him regulate/ co-regulate while you work it out/ sort it out. Lots of hugs, Sara xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hi Sara, Is dysregulated an II thing?? Interesting because Flynn calms/quiets down a lot when we do shout and bang with him, and he when we give him lots of tickles and rough and tumble like play. Sophie xx > > yeast sounds likely to me or a bacterial infection? > He sounds dysregulated so lots of touch and joining should help him > regulate/ co-regulate while you work it out/ sort it out. > Lots of hugs, > Sara xxx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 well all the non ABA type therapies so it's mentioned in RDI, FLoortime and if not Sonrise they would be working on that anyway. And II of course. Babies coregulate before the self-regulate i.e. new born babies adjust their sleeping, breathing, heartbeat, moods, behavoiur to yours when they are held and played with etc. This learning to coregulate helps them to self regulate and then later helps with conversations, etc. If it works to do it with him, go for it! And add to it, I would. (When's Tom's sleep was bad I used to do really loud and rough play like rasperries tickles shouting, etc before the bedtime routine or I knew he just wouldn't be 'with' me and wouldn't be calm, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Thanks Sara/Sophie I have been watching him closely this week and he seems to be in control of it but seems to want to do it, for example if i distract him with a game of tickles he stops immediately and joins in the minute i stop he will return to running up and down with two small objects in his hands that he will bang together and the very loud vocalisation. The main problem here other than driving me batty is that his older brother has taken to watching TV in his room which is isolating him from us. He is due to start on Dr G's concoction on Saturday so hoping this will help!!! Marina xx yeast sounds likely to me or a bacterial infection?He sounds dysregulated so lots of touch and joining should help him regulate/ co-regulate while you work it out/ sort it out.Lots of hugs,Sara xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Co regulation: I saw how important it was for a young baby when my nephew came home from a heart operation, which he had had at five weeks of age, followed by a month in hospital. I was babysitting and under orders to put him in his crib and leave him. I just couldn't and had him in bed with me for a nap. When he woke up he really woke up and was really looking at me; it was lovely. His mother came back at this point and saw him and said he had never been like this - she was pleased; it was as though he had finally come alive and alert. He'd been in hospital for a month so he'd been held back by this. Once he was home he grew very fast and changed every day. A few days later he was out in his pram and he went very white and seemed not to be breathing. We shook him and panicked. Back to hospital. They tested him and said that there was a problem with his nervous system and that it helped him to be held, as then he would stay in tune with the other person. When alone he was at risk of deep syncope because he couldn't regulate himself even to the point of maintaining his heart and breathing. He was put on a drug (Printal) to help regulate the Vagus nerve and he stayed on it for about 9 months. Margaret > > well all the non ABA type therapies so it's mentioned in RDI, FLoortime > and if not Sonrise they would be working on that anyway. And II of course. > Babies coregulate before the self-regulate i.e. new born babies adjust > their sleeping, breathing, heartbeat, moods, behavoiur to yours when > they are held and played with etc. > This learning to coregulate helps them to self regulate and then later > helps with conversations, etc. > If it works to do it with him, go for it! > And add to it, I would. > (When's Tom's sleep was bad I used to do really loud and rough play like > rasperries tickles shouting, etc before the bedtime routine or I knew he > just wouldn't be 'with' me and wouldn't be calm, etc) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 This really makes sense ...... will not do anything tonight other than give him my undivided attention which will be difficult but would like to see what it brings, if it works how on earth do i fit this into every evening with everything else that needs doing...oh my!!!! Marina xx Co regulation: I saw how important it was for a young baby when my nephew came home from a heart operation, which he had had at five weeks of age, followed by a month in hospital. I was babysitting and under orders to put him in his crib and leave him. I just couldn't and had him in bed with me for a nap. When he woke up he really woke up and was really looking at me; it was lovely. His mother came back at this point and saw him and said he had never been like this - she was pleased; it was as though he had finally come alive and alert. He'd been in hospital for a month so he'd been held back by this. Once he was home he grew very fast and changed every day. A few days later he was out in his pram and he went very white and seemed not to be breathing. We shook him and panicked. Back to hospital. They tested him and said that there was a problem with his nervous system and that it helped him to be held, as then he would stay in tune with the other person. When alone he was at risk of deep syncope because he couldn't regulate himself even to the point of maintaining his heart and breathing. He was put on a drug (Printal) to help regulate the Vagus nerve and he stayed on it for about 9 months. Margaret > > well all the non ABA type therapies so it's mentioned in RDI, FLoortime > and if not Sonrise they would be working on that anyway. And II of course.> Babies coregulate before the self-regulate i.e. new born babies adjust > their sleeping, breathing, heartbeat, moods, behavoiur to yours when > they are held and played with etc.> This learning to coregulate helps them to self regulate and then later > helps with conversations, etc. > If it works to do it with him, go for it!> And add to it, I would.> (When's Tom's sleep was bad I used to do really loud and rough play like > rasperries tickles shouting, etc before the bedtime routine or I knew he > just wouldn't be 'with' me and wouldn't be calm, etc)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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