Guest guest Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 shingles is from one of the 8 herpes viruse variants - i think it is varicella zoster = so id immediately start looking at antivirals eg valtrex or acyclovir - thats what instantly comes in my head before looking up anything > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 19:23:19 +0000> Subject: Henry has shingles> > Heny is now nearly 13. He had chicken pox when he was 2 3/4 and got over it fine. He has just got over a painful ear problem which lasted for a couple of weeks. He is on Tegretol for epilepsy.> > Does anyone have suggestions for supplements etc to boost his immune system? The GP has advised waiting but thinks no treatment is necessary.> > Margaret> > > > > > ------------------------------------> > DISCLAIMER> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 hello and thanks for the reply. Yes, I thought of these drugs but the GP doesn't want to prescribe antivirals to him. I shall speak to the epilepsy nurse tomorrow and they may want to investigate/treat as his immune problems may have been caused by the Tegretol he is on for his epilepsy. Margaret > > > shingles is from one of the 8 herpes viruse variants - i think it is varicella zoster = so id immediately start looking at antivirals eg valtrex or acyclovir - thats what instantly comes in my head before looking up anything > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > > From: m.collins9@... > > Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 19:23:19 +0000 > > Subject: Henry has shingles > > > > Heny is now nearly 13. He had chicken pox when he was 2 3/4 and got over it fine. He has just got over a painful ear problem which lasted for a couple of weeks. He is on Tegretol for epilepsy. > > > > Does anyone have suggestions for supplements etc to boost his immune system? The GP has advised waiting but thinks no treatment is necessary. > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > DISCLAIMER > > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 Hew is already taking Epicor as I recall...........Lysine? Mx Heny is now nearly 13. He had chicken pox when he was 2 3/4 and got over it fine. He has just got over a painful ear problem which lasted for a couple of weeks. He is on Tegretol for epilepsy.Does anyone have suggestions for supplements etc to boost his immune system? The GP has advised waiting but thinks no treatment is necessary.Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Hi Margaret, Hope Henry feels better soon. How about lysine? http://www.livestrong.com/article/280245-shingles-and-lysinearginine-foo\ ds/ http://www.ehow.com/way_5682103_lysine-shingles.html Best wishes, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 We have used both fairly high dose lysine[5-6000mg/day for a 55kg young adult] and low dose naltrexone to keep viral load at bay. Each time we try to lower lysine or stop the ldn warts make a reappearance so it's not a 'cure.' Extended valtrex use did not help with this at all and the epicor is not tolerated here. > > Hew is already taking Epicor as I recall...........Lysine? > > Mx > > > In a message dated 06/08/2012 20:23:25 GMT Daylight Time, > m.collins9@... writes: > > > > > Heny is now nearly 13. He had chicken pox when he was 2 3/4 and got over it > fine. He has just got over a painful ear problem which lasted for a couple > of weeks. He is on Tegretol for epilepsy. > > Does anyone have suggestions for supplements etc to boost his immune > system? The GP has advised waiting but thinks no treatment is necessary. > > Margaret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 The epicor was for me but I have started H on it and shall get some lysine. Another doc has just now agreed to 7 days of acyclovir, so I hope the benefit outweighs the side effects. Thanks, everyone. Margaret > > > > Hew is already taking Epicor as I recall...........Lysine? > > > > Mx > > > > > > In a message dated 06/08/2012 20:23:25 GMT Daylight Time, > > m.collins9@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > Heny is now nearly 13. He had chicken pox when he was 2 3/4 and got over it > > fine. He has just got over a painful ear problem which lasted for a couple > > of weeks. He is on Tegretol for epilepsy. > > > > Does anyone have suggestions for supplements etc to boost his immune > > system? The GP has advised waiting but thinks no treatment is necessary. > > > > Margaret > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 " I have quite a few patients that are dealing with reactivated infections like Epstein-Barr or cytomegalovirus or herpes, HPV, or HHV, human herpesvirus. The key thing in a general sense to realize when working with viruses, unlike bacterial infections or yeast infections, is that the number one thing you want to do is strengthen your own immune system's defenses because while there are antiviral treatments, both drug and nondrug antiviral treatments, they're generally not as effective as antibiotic treatments or antifungal treatments, and therefore the goal is to really boost our own innate immune defenses so that our immune system can do what it does best, which is eradicate these infections. So the basics there, I think, she's already doing, but would be antiinflammatory diet, high doses of vitamin C, so we're talking about gram-level doses, several grams a day to bowel tolerance, maybe like 1 g three to four times a day. You could even go that high. Selenium and iodine are both important for the immune system. Glutathione precursors like N-acetyl cysteine, lipoic acid, and then things that help with intracellular glutathione recycling like milk thistle. Those are all really solid basic choices for supporting immune function. But in terms of a natural antiviral that you might try, I like monolaurin, and monolaurin is an extract of lauric acid, which is a fatty acid that's found in coconut products and in breast milk. And when lauric acid is attached to glycerin, it forms a monoglyceride known as monolaurin. And monolaurin works directly on the envelope coat of the virus by disrupting the conformation of the lipid bilayer, which in turn prevents its attachment or absorption to host cells. So there actually is some research on monolaurin and its antiviral activity. It's also antifungal, and it has efficacy against gram-negative bacteria too. The cool thing about monolaurin is that it's pretty well tolerated and safe. It doesn't seem to have a negative impact on the beneficial gut flora. And when compared with some other options in terms of natural antimicrobials, I've found it to be pretty easy to work with and not cause a lot of side effects. So the sort of typical starting dose would be 1200 mg two times a day for an adult. So I would definitely try that. In my practice, I use some custom botanical formulas to treat viral infections, and I'll customize them based on the specific presentation of the patient, based on the type of virus that they have, and you know, their own constitution and symptom profile. But some of the medicinals that I will use are familiar, I'm sure, to a lot of you. Echinacea is one; laurea; usnea, or old man's beard — I love that name; dandelion; pau d'arco; astragalus; lemon balm. It's generally better rather than, you know, just going down to the store and getting a bunch of these and brewing them up, to work with an experienced herbalist if you can. But some of these herbs, particularly echinacea and dandelion and lemon balm, are pretty safe and can be used at home. You can just make teas or even buy teas with echinacea and some of these herbs in them. " from: http://chriskresser.com/rhr-testing-for-sibo-graves-disease-and-all-about-anemia > > > > > > Hew is already taking Epicor as I recall...........Lysine? > > > > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 06/08/2012 20:23:25 GMT Daylight Time, > > > m.collins9@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heny is now nearly 13. He had chicken pox when he was 2 3/4 and got over it > > > fine. He has just got over a painful ear problem which lasted for a couple > > > of weeks. He is on Tegretol for epilepsy. > > > > > > Does anyone have suggestions for supplements etc to boost his immune > > > system? The GP has advised waiting but thinks no treatment is necessary. > > > > > > Margaret > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 No, I have never used ALA. Henry has now started on a week of aciclovir. Margaret > > Don't EVER use Lipoic Acid other than on a proper low frequent dose > protocol per Cutler but you know that Margarget That goes for anybody else too > unless you have 5 years wortrh of round in the bag and NO issues at all > > Mandi x > > > In a message dated 07/08/2012 14:18:32 GMT Daylight Time, > pink_roses4u@... writes: > > Glutathione precursors like N-acetyl cysteine, lipoic acid, and then > things that help with intracellular glutathione recycling like milk thistle. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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