Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 What I was told was that, under a microscope, the silicone envelopes are a bunch of fibers that have been vulcanized (heated and pressurized) together to form a " solid " . . . the envelopes are really a bunch of fibers stuck together. The thicker envelopes, the fewer " pores " in them. Fluids can, and do, move through these pores. Some implants actually weigh more on explant than they did when put in. As the envelopes age, the body gradually breaks down these envelopes by breaking off microscopic bits and distributing the them throughout the body. Some body chemistry's are more agressive than others . . .hence faster breakdown. Some women are more sensitive to the chemicals than others. Some implants were contaminated when put in from things in the air, or on the skin . . .. others were injected with anti-biotics. On the shelf, saline has a two-year shelf life . . . Would you want to inject yourself with a solution that had been stored at body temperature, and subjected to bodily fluids for two years? Is it any wonder women get sick? Rogene __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Rogene: I have removed many saline implants that are over ten years old from women who are not ill and they appear as if they were recently inserted. I do believe that textured implants cause much more silicone migration into the body than smooth implants. The basis of most implant disease is the capsular reaction which will occur if there is evidence of infection. It is very important to use a sealed saline system and I am not concerned about the shelf life of saline as I am about the development of infection or inflammatory reaction of the capsule. I have been working with these devices for over 20 years and know the pros and cons of implants through direct ( and personal) experience. My opinions are based not only on this experience but also on a thorough review of the current medical literature. . ----- Original Message ----- From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> < > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Kolb....???? > What I was told was that, under a microscope, the > silicone envelopes are a bunch of fibers that have > been vulcanized (heated and pressurized) together to > form a " solid " . . . the envelopes are really a bunch > of fibers stuck together. The thicker envelopes, the > fewer " pores " in them. Fluids can, and do, move > through these pores. Some implants actually weigh more > on explant than they did when put in. > > As the envelopes age, the body gradually breaks down > these envelopes by breaking off microscopic bits and > distributing the them throughout the body. Some body > chemistry's are more agressive than others . . .hence > faster breakdown. Some women are more sensitive to the > chemicals than others. Some implants were contaminated > when put in from things in the air, or on the skin . . > . others were injected with anti-biotics. > > On the shelf, saline has a two-year shelf life . . . > Would you want to inject yourself with a solution that > had been stored at body temperature, and subjected to > bodily fluids for two years? > > Is it any wonder women get sick? > > Rogene > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 The cultures are taken from the inside of the capsules. . ----- Original Message ----- From: nikkipep <GP369@...> < > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:11 PM Subject: Dr. Kolb....???? > Hi, I don't mean to seem dumb here, but I'm still lost. I guess it's > like me telling you how to color hair tehe. Anyway you said...The > capsular cultures are positive for bacteria...... Is that the outside > of the capsule? or inside the saline included? If it is the outside, > does bacteria attach itself to the capsule and it grows? How does > this happen? Does it happen during surgery? or does it happen when > the implant was made? Sorry so many questions but the bacteria and > implant issue interests me. Thanks so much. Nik > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 , Just what is a " sealed saline system " , and who uses this in the manufacture of implants? According to Dr. Blais, almost all saline implants are manufactured with a defective valve system. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: " Dr. Kolb " <drkolb@...> < > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:52 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Kolb....???? > Rogene: I have removed many saline implants that are over ten years old > from women who are not ill and they appear as if they were recently > inserted. I do believe that textured implants cause much more silicone > migration into the body than smooth implants. The basis of most implant > disease is the capsular reaction which will occur if there is evidence of > infection. It is very important to use a sealed saline system and I am not > concerned about the shelf life of saline as I am about the development of > infection or inflammatory reaction of the capsule. I have been working with > these devices for over 20 years and know the pros and cons of implants > through direct ( and personal) experience. My opinions are based not only > on this experience but also on a thorough review of the current medical > literature. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 It is recommended by the manufacturers to use a closed saline system rather than saline off the back table. Most women I have treated with problems around smooth saline have not had surgery with the correct technique and it is my belief that incorrect technique may lead to the infections we are seeing. . ----- Original Message ----- From: Patty <fdp@...> < > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:21 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Kolb....???? > , > Just what is a " sealed saline system " , and who uses this in the manufacture > of implants? According to Dr. Blais, almost all saline implants are > manufactured with a defective valve system. > Patty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Dr. Kolb " <drkolb@...> > < > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: Dr. Kolb....???? > > > > Rogene: I have removed many saline implants that are over ten years old > > from women who are not ill and they appear as if they were recently > > inserted. I do believe that textured implants cause much more silicone > > migration into the body than smooth implants. The basis of most implant > > disease is the capsular reaction which will occur if there is evidence of > > infection. It is very important to use a sealed saline system and I am > not > > concerned about the shelf life of saline as I am about the development of > > infection or inflammatory reaction of the capsule. I have been working > with > > these devices for over 20 years and know the pros and cons of implants > > through direct ( and personal) experience. My opinions are based not only > > on this experience but also on a thorough review of the current medical > > literature. . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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