Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 I sent this letter earlier but it was returned to I'm just attaching to this one - I hope that's alright........ Hi Sandy - I made a typo of sorts in the very beginning of my post - It's an obvious one but could be confusing! I said your insurance is only paying for, at best, 25% of your insurance. " Of course, I meant to say 25% of your " prescription " . I'll try to explain better --I'm assuming from your post that you do have insurance to cover part of the cost of Humira - and that the doctor gave you cards that would cover what your insurance didn't pay and now the doctor isn't giving the cards anymore. And I'm assuming your insurance is still paying whatever percentage they were paying. Well, if you're part of the cost (that the cards used to cover) is $2500 a month than your insurance isn't paying hardly anything or just a very small percentage. Because you can go out and buy Humira with no insurance for just about what you're paying out of pocket. My insurance (I have save-r-x prescription coverage for meds) covers a substantial amount of my prescription costs and they always list what it would have cost without the coverage I have and they list a 3 month supply as costing $8,000. That is approax $2650 a month if you break it down. So, they're saying that if I didn't have insurance the Humira would cost me $2650 a month. If you're paying $2500 out of pocket for Humira than your insurance is paying only approx $150 of the cost. I think something is wrong with that picture. I've never heard of prescription coverage only paying about 7% of the cost of meds. Additionally - I just called my local pharmacy (although I get my 3 month supplys through save-r-x) and asked what it would cost for a 1 month supply if I were paying for it and his price was $2890. That's close to the price I got from my insurance. So I would think it's safe to assume the actual cost of Humira is somewhere between $2600 and $2900. I hope I've explained a little better and not confused you more -- IAN [ ] RESEARCH - Vitamin D receptor gene polymorphism in RA and associated osteoporosis Rheumatol Int. 2006 Jan 31;:1-8 [Epub ahead of print] Vitamin D receptor gene polymorphism in rheumatoid arthritis and associated osteoporosis. Rass P, Pakozdi A, Lakatos P, Zilahi E, Sipka S, Szegedi G, Szekanecz Z. Division of Rheumatology, Third Department of Medicine, University of Debrecen Medical and Health Science Center, 22 Moricz street, 4004, Debrecen, Hungary, szekanecz@.... Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is commonly associated with decreased bone mineral density (BMD) due to numerous factors. BsmI polymorphism of the vitamin D receptor (VDR) gene has been implicated in the pathogenesis of osteoporosis. Vitamin D has several immunomodulatory effects and thus may play a role in the course of arthritis. However, little data is available on the possible relationship between RA and VDR gene polymorphisms. In this study, the frequency of BsmI polymorphism genotypes were compared with that found in other countries. In this study, 64 RA patients and 40 healthy controls were tested for VDR gene BsmI polymorphism genotypes. Frequencies of B and b alleles were associated with markers of bone metabolism and RA. Among control subjects, the frequency of the BB genotype is relatively high (27.5%). In RA with secondary osteopenia/osteoporosis the BB genotype was more rare, the bb was more common than in control subjects. Markers of bone metabolism were associated with the B allele. RA patients carrying the B allele had lower BMD and increased bone loss over 1 year. The B allele was also correlated with increased osteoclast and osteoblast function, as determined by the assessment of biochemical markers of bone metabolism. Rheumatoid factor titer, which is an independent marker for disease progression in RA, was higher in bb patients. Our data suggest, that the imbalance in B and b allele expression may be involved in the pathogenesis of RA-associated osteoporosis. The possible involvement of vitamin D and VDR gene polymorphisms in the development and progression of RA needs further elucidation. PMID: 16447061 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=1644706 Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Rheumatol Int. 2006 Sep;26(11):964-71. Epub 2006 Jan 31. Vitamin D receptor gene polymorphism in rheumatoid arthritis and associated osteoporosis. Division of Rheumatology, Third Department of Medicine, University of Debrecen Medical and Health Science Center, 22 Moricz street, 4004, Debrecen, Hungary, szekanecz@.... Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is commonly associated with decreased bone mineral density (BMD) due to numerous factors. BsmI polymorphism of the vitamin D receptor (VDR) gene has been implicated in the pathogenesis of osteoporosis. Vitamin D has several immunomodulatory effects and thus may play a role in the course of arthritis. However, little data is available on the possible relationship between RA and VDR gene polymorphisms. In this study, the frequency of BsmI polymorphism genotypes were compared with that found in other countries. In this study, 64 RA patients and 40 healthy controls were tested for VDR gene BsmI polymorphism genotypes. Frequencies of B and b alleles were associated with markers of bone metabolism and RA. Among control subjects, the frequency of the BB genotype is relatively high (27.5%). In RA with secondary osteopenia/osteoporosis the BB genotype was more rare, the bb was more common than in control subjects. Markers of bone metabolism were associated with the B allele. RA patients carrying the B allele had lower BMD and increased bone loss over 1 year. The B allele was also correlated with increased osteoclast and osteoblast function, as determined by the assessment of biochemical markers of bone metabolism. Rheumatoid factor titer, which is an independent marker for disease progression in RA, was higher in bb patients. Our data suggest, that the imbalance in B and b allele expression may be involved in the pathogenesis of RA-associated osteoporosis. The possible involvement of vitamin D and VDR gene polymorphisms in the development and progression of RA needs further elucidation. PMID: 16447061 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed & cmd=Retrieve & dopt=Abstra\ ctPlus & list_uids=16447061 Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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