Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 I would agree with what Dr. Attwood said. Allie is lower than Asperger, but she's social. Just not in the way females are social. Boys love her and think nothing of her, it's just that she doesn't talk as much. Which again, boys love, lol. Anyone else see their girls with Asperger's as somewhat social? Debi - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 I was thinking the same thing. There is this idea that women are more social than men, but I simply find that untrue. The men in my life have a far greater need to socialize than the women. The women meet usually to escape the house but are content to be home when others are home. My dad can't stand to be home and is ALWAYS on the phone or meeting friends. To prove my point, if you ever listen to a bunch of business men at a meeting, they spend 2 or 3 hours in the meeting, but only a short bit of that time discussing business. Then they treat each other to lunch and talk some more. It is late afternoon before they return to their desks to email and call clients with whom they chat too. Men prefer not to socialize? You could have fooled me! I think we have this stereotype that just doesn't fit modern society. Our systems of thought originate before the change the Industrial Era brought really took effect. You also must realize how deeply our education system is imbedded into philosophy and psychology. If society continues to build upon thought systems that see women and children as second class citizens or that see humans as nothing more than animals, then your test parameters will be off thus throwing off your end result. Our foundation is too old, in this case, and needs revision. One we revise the foundation that forms our models, then we will see how alike men and women really are and how not so bizarre autism really is. As for myself and social skills, my mother will tell you I am quiet unless I am performing a prepared monologue, in which case I run on and on. I have no desire to mingle or have friends. I find it hard enough to develop a relationship with my spouse without adding other people to it. Unless, of course, they do not require me to follow social rules! Lol Nadine Re: autism in girls I would agree with what Dr. Attwood said. Allie is lower than Asperger, but she's social. Just not in the way females are social. Boys love her and think nothing of her, it's just that she doesn't talk as much. Which again, boys love, lol. Anyone else see their girls with Asperger's as somewhat social? Debi - Autism_in_Girls-subscribe ------------------------ Autism_in_Girls-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 I find that easy to believe, because even typical girls are more social than typical boys, and more adept at finding and using social cues etc. So it makes sense that AS boys would be at a further disadvantage. Amnesty > > > 1. This comes from an interview with Dr. Tony Attwood: > > " So far there have not been any studies that specifically > investigate any variation in expression of features between boys and > girls with Asperger's Syndrome, but the author has noticed that, in > general, boys tend to have a greater expression of social deficits > with a very uneven profile of social skills and a propensity for > disruptive or aggressive behavior, especially when frustrated or > stressed. These characteristics are more likely to be noticed by > parents and teachers who then seek advice as to why the child is > unusual. > > In contrast, girls tend to be relatively more able in social play > and have a more even profile of social skills. The author has > noticed how girls with Asperger's Syndrome seem more able to follow > social actions by delayed imitation. > > > > > They observe the other children and copy them, but their actions are > not as well timed and spontaneous. There is some preliminary > evidence to substantiate this distinction from a study of sex > differences in Autism (McLennan, Lord and Schopler 1993). > Girls with this syndrome are more likely to be considered immature > rather than odd. Their special interests may not be as conspicuous > and intense as occurs with boys. Thus, they can be described as > the " invisible " child - socially isolated, preoccupied by their > imaginary world but not a disruptive influence in the classroom. > Although girls are less likely to be diagnosed, they are more likely > to suffer in silence. " > > You can read the entire interview here > > And here are some other helpful resources to check out: > The Pattern of Abilities and Development of Girls with Asperger's > Syndrome (also by Dr. Attwood) > Girls With Social Deficits and Learning Problems: Autism, Atypical > Asperger Syndrome or a Variant of These Conditions By Svenny Kopp > and Gillberg > Asperger's Syndrome in Women: A Different Set of Challenges? > How to talk to your preteen or teenage daughter about grrrlz stuff > (this site is done by an adult woman with AS) > > A couple of books that may offer you some insights are: > Pretending to be Normal: Living with Asperger's Syndrome by Liane > Willey > Thinking in Pictures by Temple Grandin. > Both are written by women who have spectrum disorders and Liane's > daughter also has AS. > > The best general resource book on AS that I know of is, The OASIS > Guide to Asperger Syndrome: Advice, Support, Insight, and > Inspiration. The OASIS folks do an exceptional job on both their > website and in their book. > > I hope these resources can answer many of your questions as you > support your young student. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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