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that is strang, I quit in may 05 and RA started a couple months later..was

dignosed in september.

<kyrik@...> wrote: > I'm sorry you can't enjoy the benefits most

of us share after

> quitting. It really is a blessing for most of us. In your case, your body may

> have become dependent on a/some chemicals and cannot do without it. It's the

> same as some who have severe reactions to some meds and others never notice

> it. I hate to plant the seed of doubt, but I wonder if trying a nicotine

> patch for a month to see if it might make a difference. I've chosen it as a

> thought because it's the easiest to add back into your system and hopefully

> take away again. A friend of mine tried numerous times to quit smoking

> and always ended up with severe headaches. As long as she smoked, her head was

> ok but the rest of her was suffering. She tried everything, pills, gum,

> hypnosis, etc, but none of it worked. Her body just wouldn't turn loose of

> cigarettes. Maybe your overall problem is like that, no matter what the

medical

> community and general logic says. My hopes for a good future for you,

Oh, I did/do enjoy the benefits of not smoking. Got rid of the cough,

stopped getting pleurisy, didn't smell bad, all that. I'm glad I quit

and I won't go back. But it was weird, quitting was the beginning of all

my RA-ish symptoms. Could have been coincidence, but it was sure strange

timing.

Dunno that I want to put any nicotine back into my

body, did you do that *after* quitting?

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Hi everyone

I thought I would throw my two cents in about smoking. Please if you have

quit don't ever start again. There is absolutely no relationship to smoking and

RA. If you start again you may get worse and would be exposing yourself to all

kinds of other dreadful possibilities. Please smoking is deadly and not good

for anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take Care

Babs

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Sorry, I guess I misunderstood your earlier post. I took it to say you

haven't had 'relief' even from the stopping of smoking. I thought you may

have problems getting past one of the chemicals your body had been using

from the smoke. Now I understand, so ignore my suggestion of replacing

nicotine as an experiment.

I do find it interesting that several of us have contracted RA after

stopping smoking. Maybe we can set up a poll to get real numbers of how many

have experienced this phenonenon and how long after stopping. For me, it's

almost worth considering smoking again if it would get rid of the RA and

it's pain! I'd even consider trying an old cigarette made in Louisiana

called a 'Picayune " . It was unfiltered and was stronger than a cigar. It

made experienced smokers cough and gag at the first puff. That's getting

desperate.

Dennis

[ ] Dennis - smoking

>> I'm sorry you can't enjoy the benefits most of us share after

>> quitting. It really is a blessing for most of us. In your case, your

>> body may

>> have become dependent on a/some chemicals and cannot do without it.

>> It's the

>> same as some who have severe reactions to some meds and others never

>> notice

>> it. I hate to plant the seed of doubt, but I wonder if trying a

>> nicotine

>> patch for a month to see if it might make a difference. I've chosen

>> it as a

>> thought because it's the easiest to add back into your system and

>> hopefully

>> take away again. A friend of mine tried numerous times to quit

>> smoking

>> and always ended up with severe headaches. As long as she smoked, her

>> head was

>> ok but the rest of her was suffering. She tried everything, pills,

>> gum,

>> hypnosis, etc, but none of it worked. Her body just wouldn't turn

>> loose of

>> cigarettes. Maybe your overall problem is like that, no matter what

>> the medical

>> community and general logic says. My hopes for a good future for you,

>

> Oh, I did/do enjoy the benefits of not smoking. Got rid of the cough,

> stopped getting pleurisy, didn't smell bad, all that. I'm glad I quit

> and I won't go back. But it was weird, quitting was the beginning of all

> my RA-ish symptoms. Could have been coincidence, but it was sure strange

> timing.

>

> Dunno that I want to put any nicotine back into my

> body, did you do that *after* quitting?

>

>

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Hmmmmmmmm I also got diagnosed with RA after quitting smoking but I

would hope

that it is not linked.

Corinne

Ps: I love not smoking!

betnden@... wrote:

>

> Sorry, I guess I misunderstood your earlier post. I took it to say you

> haven't had 'relief' even from the stopping of smoking. I thought you may

> have problems getting past one of the chemicals your body had been using

> from the smoke. Now I understand, so ignore my suggestion of replacing

> nicotine as an experiment.

>

> I do find it interesting that several of us have contracted RA after

> stopping smoking. Maybe we can set up a poll to get real numbers of

> how many

> have experienced this phenonenon and how long after stopping. For me,

> it's

> almost worth considering smoking again if it would get rid of the RA and

> it's pain! I'd even consider trying an old cigarette made in Louisiana

> called a 'Picayune " . It was unfiltered and was stronger than a cigar. It

> made experienced smokers cough and gag at the first puff. That's getting

> desperate.

>

> Dennis

>

> [ ] Dennis - smoking

>

> >> I'm sorry you can't enjoy the benefits most of us share after

> >> quitting. It really is a blessing for most of us. In your case, your

> >> body may

> >> have become dependent on a/some chemicals and cannot do without it.

> >> It's the

> >> same as some who have severe reactions to some meds and others never

> >> notice

> >> it. I hate to plant the seed of doubt, but I wonder if trying a

> >> nicotine

> >> patch for a month to see if it might make a difference. I've chosen

> >> it as a

> >> thought because it's the easiest to add back into your system and

> >> hopefully

> >> take away again. A friend of mine tried numerous times to quit

> >> smoking

> >> and always ended up with severe headaches. As long as she smoked, her

> >> head was

> >> ok but the rest of her was suffering. She tried everything, pills,

> >> gum,

> >> hypnosis, etc, but none of it worked. Her body just wouldn't turn

> >> loose of

> >> cigarettes. Maybe your overall problem is like that, no matter what

> >> the medical

> >> community and general logic says. My hopes for a good future for you,

> >

> > Oh, I did/do enjoy the benefits of not smoking. Got rid of the cough,

> > stopped getting pleurisy, didn't smell bad, all that. I'm glad I quit

> > and I won't go back. But it was weird, quitting was the beginning of all

> > my RA-ish symptoms. Could have been coincidence, but it was sure strange

> > timing.

> >

> > Dunno that I want to put any nicotine back into my

> > body, did you do that *after* quitting?

> >

> >

>

>

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I totally agree with this. A poll such as was mentioned would have to have a

control group, not just how many has or haven't. If you quit smoking and

shortly thereafter get RA why not be thankful that you quit. Had you not quit

the RA could have showed up much sooner. It's the cup half full, or half empty

thing.

BVan (Betty)

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There is absolutely no relationship to smoking and

RA. If you start again you may get worse and would be exposing yourself to all

kinds of other dreadful possibilities. Please smoking is deadly and not good

for anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

.There is absolutely no relationship to smoking and RA. If you start again you

may get worse and would be exposing yourself to all

kinds of other dreadful possibilities. Please smoking is deadly and not good

for anything!!!!!!!

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Babs, You must have missed 's post regarding smoking and RA. The post

indicates that there is a link and I believe there is. I quit smoking June 1997

and got RA in May 1998...Havn't smoked since and won't start again....Hugs

jmorob@... wrote: Hi everyone

I thought I would throw my two cents in about smoking. Please if you have

quit don't ever start again. There is absolutely no relationship to smoking and

RA. If you start again you may get worse and would be exposing yourself to all

kinds of other dreadful possibilities. Please smoking is deadly and not good

for anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take Care

Babs

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Hi Dennis

You're right about the attention thing. I pop in and out and don't really

know what's going on. But I am an ex-smoker and you know how we can get :)

Honestly if someone offered me a million dollars to take a puff I wouldn't do

it.

It's just not worth it.

Take Care

Babs

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Babs, you have to take my posts with a grain of salt. I have a habit of

posting tongue-in-cheek, and if you aren't paying attention, you might

believe what I say. But wouldn't it be interesting if the RA did disappear

if a person went back to smoking?

Dennis

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> Hi everyone

>

> I thought I would throw my two cents in about smoking. Please if you have

> quit don't ever start again. There is absolutely no relationship to

> smoking and

> RA. If you start again you may get worse and would be exposing yourself to

> all

> kinds of other dreadful possibilities. Please smoking is deadly and not

> good

> for anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Take Care

> Babs

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Babs,

Dennis did it to me too! Now we know to watch him.

BVan (Betty)

Re: [ ] Dennis - smoking

> Hi everyone

>

> I thought I would throw my two cents in about smoking. Please if you have

> quit don't ever start again. There is absolutely no relationship to

> smoking and

> RA. If you start again you may get worse and would be exposing yourself to

> all

> kinds of other dreadful possibilities. Please smoking is deadly and not

> good

> for anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Take Care

> Babs

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Hey Dennis,

If you find out smoking cures RA let me know. Buy stock. No

more money shortage.

" il faut d'abord durer " Hemingway

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>

>

>> Hi everyone

>>

>> I thought I would throw my two cents in about smoking. Please if you have

>> quit don't ever start again. There is absolutely no relationship to

>> smoking and

>> RA. If you start again you may get worse and would be exposing yourself

>> to

>> all

>> kinds of other dreadful possibilities. Please smoking is deadly and not

>> good

>> for anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>

>> Take Care

>> Babs

>

>

>

>

>

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