Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Many times we have no other choice but to assume the 'new' thing added is what caused us to react, but we can never be sure. It seems wise to wait until you are 'clear' of what seemed to bother you. My daughter-in-law is asthmatic and I had convinced her, on the advice from one of our list experts, to use Curcumin and in large doses. Apparently it is the Curcuminoids of Turmeric that are the beneficial elements one seeks. It is also suggested that you use pepper extract (Piper Nigrum/Bioperine) which supposedly helps Curcumin assimilation. I myself take upwards of 9 g of Curcumin daily spread out over three meals but take it with the meal not before. If you were taking a lot of Turmeric, as in the spice, that might be a reason for your problem. My wife is using Turmeric capsules at about 6 gs a day. Are you using digestive aids? Enzymes? What about Hydrochloric Acid? Some, depending upon age, do not make enough acid for digestion. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Exciting news that just broke about the benefits of turmeric for rheumatoid arthritis, eh? Sierra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Sorry i forgot the link again. From: Bag <@...> Subject: Turmeric Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 12:09 PM Below is the turmeric website of WholeFoods which gives great information on this spice. You can make your own powder, IF, you find organic turmeric root. There is a paragraph that shows how it is done. http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice & dbid=78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Hi -- Yes, I have made lipo turmeric with turmeric powder. There wasn't a thing wrong with it either that I could tell. Sandy  Hi All,  Below is a press release from FreshPlaza on " liposomal turmeric " capsules.  Can the process to make liposomal Vitamin C be used to make liposomal turmeric, say instead of using Vit C, use turmeric powder instead?  Your views are most welcome.  ============ = India: Turmeric may help offer treatments for colon cancer, psoriasis, alzheimer's Curcumin, an ingredient commonly found in yellow curry, is being viewed as a promising disease-fighter. Scientists are working on developing nano-sized capsules containing the curry ingredient in an effort to improve its absorption and effectiveness in the body. Curcumin is a potent antioxidant found in the Indian spice called turmeric. The research team is developing nano-size capsule that would boost the body's uptake of curcumin and help fight several diseases. Trials are underway to test its safety and effectiveness in fighting colon cancer, psoriasis, and alzheimer's disease. The digestive juice in the gastrointestinal tract quickly destroys curcumin so that little actually gets into the blood. It is already known that encapsulating insulin and certain other drugs into structures called liposomes can boost absorption. The scientists prepared the liposomes encapsulating curcumin and fed them to laboratory rats. They found that encapsulating more than quadrupled absorption of curcumin, and also boosted antioxidant levels in the blood. The researchers said that encapsulating process could be an answer to the problem of increasing curcumin's absorption in the digestive environment of the gastrointestinal tract. The study appears in ACS' Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, a bi-weekly publication. Source: expressindia. com Publication date: 11/6/2009  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Shouldn't that be Liposomal Curcumin, which is the main active compound in Tumeric? I've bought this one before: http://www.letstalkhealth.com/Liposomal-Curcumin-p/617.htm Or this one: http://www.supplementclinic.com/LipoNano_Curcuman_by_Liposomal_Research_p/102617\ ..htm Good results killing Triple Negative Breast Cancer cell lines in experiments with curcumin. Also many other cancers. Liposomal curcumin should be much more bioavailable than regular curcumin supplements I would expect? Also, I was under the impression that you can't just make liposomal supplements unless you have special high tech equipment or what? All the best. > > Hi -- > > Yes, I have made lipo turmeric with turmeric powder. There wasn't a thing wrong with it either that I could tell. > > Sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Do you guys think that the Turmeric you buy in a grocery store in the spice section is effective also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Go back and read some of the earlier posts. Curcumin, the active ingredient we should be using is but a small part of the spice Turmeric. You need to be getting Curcumin if battling cancer. Perhaps if simply thinking preventative, then eating lots of curry-type foods with Turmeric would be a good thing. You also need to read about making it more bioavailable. Then you would need to give consideration to getting Organic Turmeric or you might be defeating your purpose. Good luck in your search, Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Not really. The stuff you get in the store has prolly beeen irradiated among other things. I buy it at mountain rose herbs and it is not expensive Cheri > > Do you guys think that the Turmeric you buy in a grocery store in the spice section is effective also? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Ok I am conflicted. I generally use whole herbs for their synergistic effect. Does the curcumin separated really work that much better. I have been looking into buying it but it goes against what I practice. Cheri > > Go back and read some of the earlier posts. Curcumin, the active ingredient we should be using is but a small part of the spice Turmeric. You need to be getting Curcumin if battling cancer. Perhaps if simply thinking preventative, then eating lots of curry-type foods with Turmeric would be a good thing. You also need to read about making it more bioavailable. Then you would need to give consideration to getting Organic Turmeric or you might be defeating your purpose. > > Good luck in your search, > > Joe C. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Life is full of decisions and what we practice doesn't necessarily mean it is best for us. If something is effective as is Curcumin, then what does one's practice mean if they elect to consume a much lesser amount? I have long since stopped a dogmatic approach because much of it is not the best approach. It is the Curcumin that is effective and when one researches it they will find that the recommended dosage to deal with cancer, if it is specific for their cancer, is upwards of 9 grams. I suspect that you could not consume enough Curry or the whole herb Turmeric to get half that amount. However, I do not speak from a background of science but rather what has been recommended and what I have read even in Medical Circles. If it really bothers you to not use the whole herb then do what makes you comfortable and don't let me or anyone else side-track you until you do your own research and then decide what you should do. Whatever you do, I wish you the best. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Maybe one could use the dose of Curcumin and add some Tumeric to it? Bill Corley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I am not opposed to changing my thinking in fact the opposite which is why I asked. Sooooo the extracted curcumin works much better? Cheri > > Life is full of decisions and what we practice doesn't necessarily mean it is best for us. If something is effective as is Curcumin, then what does one's practice mean if they elect to consume a much lesser amount? > > I have long since stopped a dogmatic approach because much of it is not the best approach. It is the Curcumin that is effective and when one researches it they will find that the recommended dosage to deal with cancer, if it is specific for their cancer, is upwards of 9 grams. I suspect that you could not consume enough Curry or the whole herb Turmeric to get half that amount. However, I do not speak from a background of science but rather what has been recommended and what I have read even in Medical Circles. > > If it really bothers you to not use the whole herb then do what makes you comfortable and don't let me or anyone else side-track you until you do your own research and then decide what you should do. > > Whatever you do, I wish you the best. > > Joe C. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 There are companies providing products with much higher amounts of Curcuminoids and upwards of 900 mgs with 5 mgs of Piperine. There has been some question as to the safety of Piperine and I suspect low amounts may not be a problem. I copied the following from PubMed taken from a study by a Pharmacology Department of St. 's College in India. What better area to study Curcumin. Curryland. " On the other hand in humans after a dose of 2 g curcumin alone, serum levels were either undetectable or very low. Concomitant administration of piperine 20 mg produced much higher concentrations from 0.25 to 1 h post drug (P < 0.01 at 0.25 and 0.5 h; P < 0.001 at 1 h), the increase in bioavailability was 2000%. The study shows that in the dosages used, piperine enhances the serum concentration, extent of absorption and bioavailability of curcumin in both rats and humans with no adverse effects. " They used 20 mgs of Piperine. That sounds like it's reasonably safe, I think. I also found the following: Piperine is an alkaloid that is found in black pepper and related plants. Piperine enhances the bioavailability of other nutritional substances such as beta-carotene, curcumin, selenium, pyridoxine (vitamin B6), glucose and amino acids. It may be beneficial as an anti-inflammatory substance, to improve digestion, in pain complaints, asthma, serotonin production (mood enhancing and pain relieving neurotransmitter) and in stomach ulceration. Published Clinical Studies Piperine a.. Protective action of piperine against experimental gastric ulcer. b.. Influence of piperine on the pharmacokinetics of curcumin in animals and human volunteers. c.. Piperine derived from black pepper increases the plasma levels of coenzyme q10 following oral supplementation. d.. Antidiarrhoeal activity of piperine in mice. e.. Cytoprotective effect of piperine against benzo[a]pyrene induced lung cancer with reference to lipid peroxidation and antioxidant system in Swiss albino mice. f.. Effect of piperine on the inhibition of lung metastasis induced B16F-10 melanoma cells in mice. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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