Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Please understand, I can understand docs point. why would he try to help me if I do not make that step to help myself. Frustrating for him, I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 dreamer, don't cry. I'm sure this was a very frustrating experience for you. I don't believe that the rheumatologist dislikes you because you smoke. He wants to help you as much as he can, but he believes you have to help him help you by quitting. He knows that it's not easy to quit. It's true that smoking affects your immune system. Have you tried to quit with the help of a physician before? What about calling or messaging Smokefree for help? http://www.smokefree.gov/ Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org [ ] doc/smoking > OK I just cannot stop crying.. > doc told me smokers are 40 times more likely to get RA. > He told me treatment is far less effective in smokers. Smoking releases > inflammatory agents into the body? > > He told me to call my GP, a therapist, a hypnotist, a counselor, try > lazer, get gum, a patch, zyban. > He said not cut down, not " try to quit " I must PROMISE to quit NOW. Or > he cannot help me, won't try. > > He said all kinds of people wuit, they are not smarter than me, they are > not stronger than me, if they can quit, I can. > > It took me months to find this doc. I drove 2 hours one way to see him. > My previous rheumy retired in AUg. I was without my mtx since then till > now. My GP refused to fill in for rheumy even tho my old rheumy had said > the GP had agreed to cover the patients till our office got a new rheumy. > GP changed his mind and wouldn't. > > My handicapped parking placard expired. I have 3 kids and they are ACTIVE > and I cannot handle the parking lots most of the time. > > But doc made it kinda pretty clear. It is my own fault I am symptomatic, > cuz I smoke. ANd I cannot even imagine not smoking, cuz I keep trying > with no luck. And since I smoke, I guess that means Ineed tojust shut up > and accept what I did tomyself or something. > > Yeah, I know about smoking. My mother just died of lung cancer. she was > 62. My MIL died of lung cancer she was 63. My best friend died of lung > cancer she was 35. all died in the last year. My husband has emphysema > and lung cancer. Heck, I was a Hospice nurse, a good number of my > patients died of lung cancer. > I cannot explain why I cannot quit. Yeesh the cigs sure cost TONS of > money, and here we are hubby on soc sec since 1990 andme since 2000. with > 3 kids we are trying to raise. > Yup, people sure do not like smokers, I know that. > I do not know why I cannot quit. Not zyban, hypnotist, gum, patch, mints, > I cannot explain it. > > All I wanted from doc was to have some of the pain lessened. I was not > looking for a miracle, was not even looking to be pain free. and maybe > have him sign myparking placard renewal so I could continue mybest tokeep > up with the kids easier. > > I do not know why I cannot quit. I really don't. and now it has cost me > treatment for my RA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Dreamer, I have forgotten where you live but here in Toronto we have addiction centers to help smokers quit. One of my dear friends had tried everything to quit smoking and this was a last resort for her. The programme worked for her. The cancer society also has a one on one programme that I hear is excellent. Of course, the key to their working is you have to want to quit. I don't think any doctor should refuse to treat a patient because of an addiction but legally they do have that right. Hugs June [ ] doc/smoking > OK I just cannot stop crying.. > doc told me smokers are 40 times more likely to get RA. > He told me treatment is far less effective in smokers. Smoking releases > inflammatory agents into the body? > > He told me to call my GP, a therapist, a hypnotist, a counselor, try > lazer, get gum, a patch, zyban. > He said not cut down, not " try to quit " I must PROMISE to quit NOW. Or > he cannot help me, won't try. > > He said all kinds of people wuit, they are not smarter than me, they are > not stronger than me, if they can quit, I can. > > It took me months to find this doc. I drove 2 hours one way to see him. > My previous rheumy retired in AUg. I was without my mtx since then till > now. My GP refused to fill in for rheumy even tho my old rheumy had said > the GP had agreed to cover the patients till our office got a new rheumy. > GP changed his mind and wouldn't. > > My handicapped parking placard expired. I have 3 kids and they are ACTIVE > and I cannot handle the parking lots most of the time. > > But doc made it kinda pretty clear. It is my own fault I am symptomatic, > cuz I smoke. ANd I cannot even imagine not smoking, cuz I keep trying > with no luck. And since I smoke, I guess that means Ineed tojust shut up > and accept what I did tomyself or something. > > Yeah, I know about smoking. My mother just died of lung cancer. she was > 62. My MIL died of lung cancer she was 63. My best friend died of lung > cancer she was 35. all died in the last year. My husband has emphysema > and lung cancer. Heck, I was a Hospice nurse, a good number of my > patients died of lung cancer. > I cannot explain why I cannot quit. Yeesh the cigs sure cost TONS of > money, and here we are hubby on soc sec since 1990 andme since 2000. with > 3 kids we are trying to raise. > Yup, people sure do not like smokers, I know that. > I do not know why I cannot quit. Not zyban, hypnotist, gum, patch, mints, > I cannot explain it. > > All I wanted from doc was to have some of the pain lessened. I was not > looking for a miracle, was not even looking to be pain free. and maybe > have him sign myparking placard renewal so I could continue mybest tokeep > up with the kids easier. > > I do not know why I cannot quit. I really don't. and now it has cost me > treatment for my RA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 I agree that I do not think the doc dislikes me....I think he really wants to help me. I saw on my chart he wrote I was a quite pleasant person......and he seems very nice and concerned and sincere. I have tried to quit so many times since I was 12. 3 packs a day. UG. My crying was cuz I do not know how to change my thinking......I like to smoke. except I know it is bad. I am very very VERY up close and personal familiar with lung cancer. But thinking about not smoking .I cannot explain it, it makes me cry. SO, today I have put very rigid limit s on it, on when I can smoke and where and how much. I suppose to a non smoker that does not sound like much, but, believe me, it is quite a big change for me. - In , " June Dixon " <juner24@...> wrote: > > Dreamer, I have forgotten where you live but here in Toronto we have addiction centers to help smokers quit. One of my dear friends had tried everything to quit smoking and this was a last resort for her. The programme worked for her. The cancer society also has a one on one programme that I hear is excellent. Of course, the key to their working is you have to want to quit. I don't think any doctor should refuse to treat a patient because of an addiction but legally they do have that right. > > Hugs > June > [ ] doc/smoking > > > > OK I just cannot stop crying.. > > doc told me smokers are 40 times more likely to get RA. > > He told me treatment is far less effective in smokers. Smoking releases > > inflammatory agents into the body? > > > > He told me to call my GP, a therapist, a hypnotist, a counselor, try > > lazer, get gum, a patch, zyban. > > He said not cut down, not " try to quit " I must PROMISE to quit NOW. Or > > he cannot help me, won't try. > > > > He said all kinds of people wuit, they are not smarter than me, they are > > not stronger than me, if they can quit, I can. > > > > It took me months to find this doc. I drove 2 hours one way to see him. > > My previous rheumy retired in AUg. I was without my mtx since then till > > now. My GP refused to fill in for rheumy even tho my old rheumy had said > > the GP had agreed to cover the patients till our office got a new rheumy. > > GP changed his mind and wouldn't. > > > > My handicapped parking placard expired. I have 3 kids and they are ACTIVE > > and I cannot handle the parking lots most of the time. > > > > But doc made it kinda pretty clear. It is my own fault I am symptomatic, > > cuz I smoke. ANd I cannot even imagine not smoking, cuz I keep trying > > with no luck. And since I smoke, I guess that means Ineed tojust shut up > > and accept what I did tomyself or something. > > > > Yeah, I know about smoking. My mother just died of lung cancer. she was > > 62. My MIL died of lung cancer she was 63. My best friend died of lung > > cancer she was 35. all died in the last year. My husband has emphysema > > and lung cancer. Heck, I was a Hospice nurse, a good number of my > > patients died of lung cancer. > > I cannot explain why I cannot quit. Yeesh the cigs sure cost TONS of > > money, and here we are hubby on soc sec since 1990 andme since 2000. with > > 3 kids we are trying to raise. > > Yup, people sure do not like smokers, I know that. > > I do not know why I cannot quit. Not zyban, hypnotist, gum, patch, mints, > > I cannot explain it. > > > > All I wanted from doc was to have some of the pain lessened. I was not > > looking for a miracle, was not even looking to be pain free. and maybe > > have him sign myparking placard renewal so I could continue mybest tokeep > > up with the kids easier. > > > > I do not know why I cannot quit. I really don't. and now it has cost me > > treatment for my RA. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 In a message dated 4/5/2006 8:23:06 AM Central Standard Time, dreamer_plus@... writes: I have tried to quit so many times since I was 12. 3 packs a day. UG. My crying was cuz I do not know how to change my thinking......I like to smoke. except I know it is bad. I am very very VERY up close and personal familiar with lung cancer. But thinking about not smoking .I cannot explain it, it makes me cry. SO, today I have put very rigid limit s on it, on when I can smoke and where and how much. I suppose to a non smoker that does not sound like much, but, believe me, it is quite a big change for me. its a first step. i'm proud of you for doing it!!!!!! 3 packs a day... wow. I'm not near that " dedicated " as a smoker... lol maybe a half pack a day or less, well sometimes more. Depends on the day really. Yes it is a big change, but you can do it! i know you can! HUGS http://www1.myspace.com/julz2kidz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 I smoke a pack a day here. I know I can quit, but I'm not ready yet. I live with my sister and her husband and kids, and I don't get along with her husband. I think I would rather smoke than ring his neck right now. I'll quit when the time is right. Until then, I wish everyone who is trying to quit good luck. Janet N2kids@... wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2006 8:23:06 AM Central Standard Time, dreamer_plus@... writes: I have tried to quit so many times since I was 12. 3 packs a day. UG. My crying was cuz I do not know how to change my thinking......I like to smoke. except I know it is bad. I am very very VERY up close and personal familiar with lung cancer. But thinking about not smoking .I cannot explain it, it makes me cry. SO, today I have put very rigid limit s on it, on when I can smoke and where and how much. I suppose to a non smoker that does not sound like much, but, believe me, it is quite a big change for me. its a first step. i'm proud of you for doing it!!!!!! 3 packs a day... wow. I'm not near that " dedicated " as a smoker... lol maybe a half pack a day or less, well sometimes more. Depends on the day really. Yes it is a big change, but you can do it! i know you can! HUGS http://www1.myspace.com/julz2kidz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 In a message dated 4/6/2006 2:18:13 PM Central Standard Time, sungdss33@... writes: I know I can quit, but I'm not ready yet. I live with my sister and her husband and kids, and I don't get along with her husband. I think I would rather smoke than ring his neck right now. I'll quit when the time is right. Until then, I wish everyone who is trying to quit good luck. Janet Janet, good luck dealing with the in laws. HUGS i know what you mean! http://www1.myspace.com/julz2kidz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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