Guest guest Posted July 18, 2000 Report Share Posted July 18, 2000 << Where can I get a hair analysis without a doctor's approval? The particular doctor that my son currently sees (who is very up-to-date with autism therapies) doesn't think this is a valid test in determining toxic elements. We had the blood test done through Great Smokies but I would like to have a hair analysis done also. Thanks, , DJ's Mom >> Ask him if he will sign the form anyway to humor you - he might. Call Doctor's Data and ask for a list of doctors in your area who have ordered their test. The Doctor's Data test is so much more sensitive (due to the way they break the report down for you to apply the counting rules to) that it is worth some effort to get it instead of the great smokies report. Andy Cutler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 The best lab for this is supposed to be Doctor's Data (that is the one we used). You do need a doctor's signature, but doctor is defined broadly and can include chiropractors, naturopaths, etc. Bernie Windham has suggested that you can get a somewhat more limited test from Body Balance without a doctor's approval. They use Great Smokies lab. Body Balance 63 Zillicoa Street Asheville, N.C. 28801 888-891-3061 You can call Doctor's Data at 708/231-3649 to find out what practitioners in your area order the test. > WHere does one go to get their hair analyzed? Does one have to go > through a doctor? Is there a place I can send a hair sample to > directly??? I have searched through the archives and could not find > the answer so I appreciate anyone helping me out with this. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 The best place to get this done is a lab called Doctor's Data in Illinois. You will need to get your doctor to order a hair collection kit from them. Once the kit arrives, you can collect the sample yourself (the kit has instructions on how to do this correctly) and send it to them with payment - I believe that the test is $42. Your doctor will need to sign the requisition form and they will send the results to your doctor. Their web address is www.DictorsData.com. The only snag might be if you live in NY because a NY doctor cannot order the Hair Elements test-it is illegal in NY. However, if you don't live in NY, you're ok. If you have any more questions, email me at vic2171@.... lookie13@... wrote: WHere does one go to get their hair analyzed? Does one have to go through a doctor? Is there a place I can send a hair sample to directly??? I have searched through the archives and could not find the answer so I appreciate anyone helping me out with this. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 In a message dated 9/11/00 12:22:16 PM Central Daylight Time, smdevlin5@... writes: << Bernie Windham has suggested that you can get a somewhat more limited test from Body Balance without a doctor's approval. They use Great Smokies lab. Body Balance 63 Zillicoa Street Asheville, N.C. 28801 888-891-3061 >> Anyone know what all this tests for? Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 >===== Original Message From egroups ===== >WHere does one go to get their hair analyzed? Does one have to go >through a doctor? Is there a place I can send a hair sample to >directly??? I have searched through the archives and could not find >the answer so I appreciate anyone helping me out with this. Thanks! >you can check on drs data website and see if you can order one..sincerly tina newton > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2000 Report Share Posted October 11, 2000 This was posted to the nids list: question: > Does this play a role in nids? We are having our child tested (thru a > reputable lab) for heavy metal toxins in her body and MJG responded: > Sadly, the statement " reputable lab " and heavy metal testing via hair > analysis, as noted by a colleague of mine is literally an " oxymoron. " > There > is NO reputable, reproducible, method of hair analysis. [snip] > > ANY physician or > therapist basing medical therapy or recommendations on a hair analysis > should be open to malpractice, NOT allowed to make decisions affecting the > welfare of your children!! > I am not trying to be difficult here. This is an option that we, a family who uses the protocal and Dr. Goldberg, are looking into. My only " beef " with this answer is that I don't think that Dr.'s who agree or use chelaten are basing it soley on hair analysis alone. From the families that I have spoken with (one person who uses Dr. Amy Holmes herself), the hair analysis is done but isn't entirely relied upon. The real " indicator " are the urine, stool, and blood tests that are done *after* the chelaten process is started. How is that much different that prescribing an antifungal without a yeast overgrowth test? isn't that what often happens in the nids group? You look to see if the antifungal " helps " based on rather subjective observation of parents. Yes, I know that yeast overgrowth tests are not all that reliable either but... I guess I don't see much of a difference. Additionally, if some of these metals BIND to tissue, then they wouldn't be picked up in simple blood tests , no? Since you can't go around harvesting tissue from oh.. a childs brain, it makes sense to try chelaten and then test the urine and blood to see if something was " kicked up " ... If thinks there is a dysfunctional immune system at play, then mercury toxification could certainly be a part of that CAUSE. Of course, I am not an expert and am only just now starting to research this method. Any mistakes in what I wrote above is probably from my misunderstanding the families I have spoken with... I don't speak for them or represent them- I just use them to gather information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2001 Report Share Posted January 28, 2001 Listmates- Since we are on the topic of hair analysis, what do you all make of high elements in hair, but low on the RBC? Wasting??? Our son showed minimal magnesium, molybdenum and selenium on the RBC, yet on his hair analysis, he was very high in these. We are supplementing all three, is he just wasting them??? What to do?? Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Hi Andy, Thanks for the comment and suggestions on my son's hair analysis. I remember you said that a hair analysis shows both recent and old mercury exposures. Before you said this, I was told that it shows only recent exposures. I really didn't expect to see mercury being showed up in my son's recent hair analysis cause his last thimerosal contained vaccine was at least 1 year (I don't know if the chicken pox vaccine had thimerosal in it) or 2 years ago . Now the mercury shows up at 3ppm in the report. Does it mean he has recent exposure to mercury? If it is so, where would it come from? He has some Salmon fillet may be once a week and taking CLO from Kirkman only. I think I read somewhere that Salmon is quite safe usually. Thanks. Kym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2002 Report Share Posted January 2, 2002 Hello, not to be negative, but I would like to save you some money here. i had a hair anylisis by Dr. Kolb. The whole hair anyalisis is a farce. I would research it more before you spend you hard earned $100 on it..First of all, do you dye your hair? How can that be acurate? Mine came out heavy metal toxicity too??? How can I have heavy metals in me? Do what you think is right, but when I was seeing a neuropath back when, he warned me not to get it, and I did. It did not do a darn thing for me.,except open my wallet...Just something to think about..Any other input from anyone who had it done...? It was annonced some months ago, I forget where I read it, that it is just another way of getting our money, which most of us disabled do not have. Stick to your bloodwork and diagnosis, then you can start on a program that is right for you. I don't think pulling hair out is going ot solve your problem..been around 2 years and have gotten into some crazy scams by these so 'called I can make you better Drs'. Be carefu l. Just some imput..Good luck and health to you. MissBoop0827@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2002 Report Share Posted January 2, 2002 To Dr. Kolb, I have had a hair analayis which has not done anything for me, but open my wallet, and take food from my table and proper treatments from me! I have done every detox, tried every herb, vitamin, therapies, with no avail. It is all about you making money off us sick disabled people. I am one of the fortunate ones who functions at 10 percent of a real person. I think your supplements are WAY OVER PRICED. I can get the SAME supplements you sell for half the price. You seem to be about the american dollar. Oh yeah I have a bridge I would like to sell you for cheap, which one would you like to buy, the London Bridge or the Sanfransico bridge? It might make you feel better too! I think you feed off the sick ill women and promise them hope. WEll Miss Kolb WHERE are all the implant people you have cured? It has been 2 years, and my health is getting worse.I am to blame, I put the implants in, there was no gun to my head. But it is people like you who really just want to make money! I am alot wiser and smarter than you think. I used your protocol, vitamins, ect. Where are all the women you 'made better that could not walk down the stairs, or where in bed for a year. AND why do you have Salines if you were " supposidly so sick from your Silicones...Do you have proof you were sick from silicones???WE will never know will we???? YOu put the poision in, yet you take them out. Must be nice to live the good life, in a nice house. Hope you can look yourself in the mirror everynite and be happy with yourself! I really think you should stop trying to publisize your business on the internet, because my friend went to you for explant,,,,and I have no comment on it.........MissBoop...P.S. If you write back I will not be reading anymore emails I am officially off the group because I don't believe you are honest...By the way, You cannot get me for slander, because this is AMERICA and we have the write to FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!!!P.s I don't see any other dr.s trying to get clients to come and see them.....you must be real desperate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2002 Report Share Posted January 2, 2002 To Dr. Kolb, I have had a hair analayis which has not done anything for me, but open my wallet, and take food from my table and proper treatments from me! I have done every detox, tried every herb, vitamin, therapies, with no avail. It is all about you making money off us sick disabled people. I am one of the fortunate ones who functions at 10 percent of a real person. I think your supplements are WAY OVER PRICED. I can get the SAME supplements you sell for half the price. You seem to be about the american dollar. Oh yeah I have a bridge I would like to sell you for cheap, which one would you like to buy, the London Bridge or the Sanfransico bridge? It might make you feel better too! I think you feed off the sick ill women and promise them hope. WEll Miss Kolb WHERE are all the implant people you have cured? It has been 2 years, and my health is getting worse.I am to blame, I put the implants in, there was no gun to my head. But it is people like you who really just want to make money! I am alot wiser and smarter than you think. I used your protocol, vitamins, ect. Where are all the women you 'made better that could not walk down the stairs, or where in bed for a year. AND why do you have Salines if you were " supposidly so sick from your Silicones...Do you have proof you were sick from silicones???WE will never know will we???? YOu put the poision in, yet you take them out. Must be nice to live the good life, in a nice house. Hope you can look yourself in the mirror everynite and be happy with yourself! I really think you should stop trying to publisize your business on the internet, because my friend went to you for explant,,,,and I have no comment on it.........MissBoop...P.S. If you write back I will not be reading anymore emails I am officially off the group because I don't believe you are honest...By the way, You cannot get me for slander, because this is AMERICA and we have the write to FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!!!P.s I don't see any other dr.s trying to get clients to come and see them.....you must be real desperate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2002 Report Share Posted January 2, 2002 Hi honey how are you! I am glad to hear your opinions and points of view since you went through this testing and I know you are still very sick I too, wonder what good it did you? I do believe there are many many Dr's out there trying to take our money and when we are sick we are so easily taken advantage of, we want an easy cure, or even a hard one, any cure to help us get better is what we really want and it is unfair that many of us have been duped, this is where I go insane trying to figure out what I should really be doing and what is a waste of time. I still take the supplements we have always talked about, like msm,malic acid, glucosamine, and now because of my bones I take my calcium with vit D and magnesium to round that out, I drink green teas and fresh juices and keep on the natural side, keep up activities etc. My real concern is that these Dr's take our money for tests that probably in my opinion aren't;t always accurate or even relative to our situation. Anyhow sorry that things haven't worked out for you. Please tell us about the hair testing you had done, what exactly did it show and what exactly were you advised to do about what it showed? Love ya, ----- Original Message ----- From: <MissBoop0827@...> < > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 12:27 AM Subject: Hair Analysis > Hello, not to be negative, but I would like to save you some money here. i had a hair anylisis by Dr. Kolb. The whole hair anyalisis is a farce. I would research it more before you spend you hard earned $100 on it..First of all, do you dye your hair? How can that be acurate? Mine came out heavy metal toxicity too??? How can I have heavy metals in me? Do what you think is right, but when I was seeing a neuropath back when, he warned me not to get it, and I did. It did not do a darn thing for me.,except open my wallet...Just something to think about..Any other input from anyone who had it done...? It was annonced some months ago, I forget where I read it, that it is just another way of getting our money, which most of us disabled do not have. Stick to your bloodwork and diagnosis, then you can start on a program that is right for you. I don't think pulling hair out is going ot solve your problem..been around 2 years and have gotten into some crazy scams by these so 'called I can make you better Drs'. Be carefu > l. Just some imput..Good luck and health to you. MissBoop0827@... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 I understand 's feelings . . . the medical community has betrayed us! No doubt! However, I praise Dr. Kolb for participating on this board! I know she has helped numerous women. Please, let's not take out our frustrations on any doctors who care enough to show up here and answer questions! Rogene __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 Anyone interested in getting hair analysis can get it done through Doctors Data Inc. (DDI). You do not necessarily need a prescription from a doctor. Your results will come back in a form which you will then be able to use " counting rules " to determine whether or not your child is mercury-toxic as well as high in other levels of metals. Blood and stool tests are not necessarily good indicators of the heavy metals that are stored deep in tissues, brain, etc. There is a group called which has a FAQ file and some other files for your general information, in one of the files you'll find the address/contact info for DDI as well as instructions on how to obtain the hair analysis without a prescription, also you'll find the " counting rules " instructions. -BJ in polis, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Has anyone done hair analysis and would recommend one over the other? Thanks all of your smarty pants!Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Absolutely not. There is no test available that will prove the implants are harming you. If there were, we would not be losing in court! Patty Platte <deniseplatte@...> wrote: Can a hair analysis show me that my implants are hurting me anyone? Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: , There is some controversy about the validity of some hair analysis tests, due to the handling of the hair at the lab (i.e., washing it first in acetone and detergent). See this link: http://www.ithyroid.com/hair_analysis.htm However, a properly done hair analysis is thought to be more accurate than a urine or blood test. Keep in mind that a challenge test is going to show you dumping heavy metals because the chelation agent is pulling them out of the body. That is at a given moment in time. A hair analysis is going to show what has been going on over a much longer period of time. It is definitely confusing! You may want to consider just doing a general detox that targets supporting all your organs, rather than doing a specific heavy metal detox. I think it is safe to say that most of us are exposed to heavy metals in daily life, but through the use of organic fruits and vegetables and especially green drinks and lots of vitamin C, your body can "chelate" at a milder level on its own. What Is A Hair Analysis? Drug and chemical residues, toxins, heavy metals, and radiation present in the body embed in hair fiber protein as it grows. Hair has the advantage of long-term memory. It's a permanent record, like tree rings. A three-inch strand of human hair will give a six-month history of what's going on in the body since head hair grows at a rate of about a half an inch a month. Clinical research indicates that hair levels of specific elements, particularly toxic elements, correlate with pathological disorders. For such elements, the levels in the hair provide a superior indication of body stores opposed to blood or urine specimens. This is one reason hair element tests are preferred for drug testing and forensics. Within polluted environments, accurate decisions on how to clean up toxic spills cannot be made without performing soil and water analyses of the effected area. So it is with a hair analysis for the human body. The hair analysis identifies the root of illness. The key to a good hair analysis is in the interpretation - a lost art amid traditional medicine, yet a critical step in disease recovery. Americans alone are exposed to more than 70,000 chemicals daily, with 14,000 of those chemicals in our food supply. The hair analysis is an excellent tool to identify specific chemical toxins within the human body, and vitamin and mineral deficiencies caused by them. A sample of hair sent to the laboratory for analysis will show levels of potentially toxic elements and levels of essential elements that are necessary for normal body function. Reference ranges are determined by the type of hair submitted, gender, and age. The toxic elements on the hair chart begin at 50%. The body has natural exposure to organic forms of all Earth elements, but inorganic forms or overloads of toxic elements above 50% can impact health. The hair analysis provides a screening for physiological excess of toxic elements which, in turn, create deficiencies or mal-distribution of essential elements in the body. Clinical research indicates that hair levels of specific elements, particularly toxic elements such as cadmium, mercury, lead, and arsenic, are highly correlated with pathological disorders. The hair proves to be more indicative of body stores than blood or urine. To read more information about our hair analysis program, please visit our Hair Analysis FAQ section. Visit our home page to order a Hair Analysis. sedwards41255 <sedwards41255@...> wrote: Rogene, I used it twice and probably did not give it much of a chance. I had not understood that this was the way it worked when I bought it. We will all have our own individual experiences with detoxing....I suppose...and some things will work for some and not others. I had also purchased it because I had high levels of metals on a provoked urine Challenge test. Well....I decided to have a hair analysis done....and those results say I don't have those high levels. So now I am really confused. Any feel for which test is the most accurate??? Anyone? >> ,> > How many times did you use the foot bath? . . . > > If it was just once, that may not have been enough time to see a difference, especially when you still have implants.> > Detoxing is usually a slow process. It will take time, even with a sauna.> > Hugs,> > Rogene> Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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