Radio show transcript re autism

[Guest guest]

NPR Radio show, " All Things Considered " on June 26 aired this

story: " Autism Movement Seeks Acceptance, Not Cures "

Carley is trying to change your image of autism. He has

autism and he's happy just the way he is. He thinks that might

surprise you.

Carley didn't know he was autistic until he was 36 years old. The

diagnosis changed everything he'd ever understood about himself.

" It was biblical, " Carley says, with a laugh, of getting the

diagnosis. " Of course, you say to yourself, 'Nah that can't be. It's

garbage.' "

Carley only heard about his kind of autism -- Asperger's syndrome --

shortly before he was diagnosed. It's sometimes called " geek

syndrome " because people with Asperger's, like Carley, often seem

quirky and eccentric, but highly intelligent.

Those with Asperger's also have trouble reading other people's

emotions, so they often bumble in social situations.

When Carley was first given the diagnosis, he became depressed. Yet

the diagnosis fit like a glove, he says. It explained things about

his life.

" All those experiences, I was walking away scratching my head

going, 'What the heck just happened here?' Finally explanation,

finally a sense of why and how, " he says.

" Suddenly a friendship would just end and you had no idea what you'd

said, " Carley explains. " Suddenly somebody would look at you with a

face that said, 'You really offended me here,' and I wouldn't have

the first clue about what I had done.' "

Carley's son was diagnosed first.] At age three, [he] barely talked,

but he built stunning towers with cans of dog food.

Asperger's is often genetic, so the diagnosis for Carley's son led to

the diagnosis for Carley.

Carley, an actor and a playwright, considered keeping his diagnosis a

secret. But a few days after he got his diagnosis, he ran into a

friend.

" I was on an elevator with somebody that I was working with, " Carley

recalls. " I told her about my son's diagnosis, I did not tell her

about mine. And she said, 'Well, isn't that genetic?' And I said, 'Oh

no. No no no. Nothing like that going on.' "

As soon as Carley said those words, the image of his young son

flashed through his head. He felt guilty.

" And to me, I kind of stabbed my son in the back, " says Carley. " And

I told him -- if only for a moment because I quickly knew what I had

done -- that he should be ashamed of what he has. Because I'm ashamed

of it. "

At that moment, Carley decided to go public. Three years ago, he

started the Global and Regional Asperger Syndrome Partnership, or

GRASP. It's a national autism advocacy group. Today, it has 11

support groups around the country.

Asperger's was only officially recognized as a form of autism about

12 years ago. It's mildly disabling for some; severely disabling for

others.

Some of the members of a local GRASP support group in Wallingford,

Conn., have always been called autistic. Others were first called

learning-disabled, mentally retarded or mentally ill.

The autistics in the Wallingford support group move quickly to the

usual subjects: romance and jobs. Most talk of wanting relationships,

but not being very good at them. They talk about wanting to throw

themselves into a job, but not being very good at keeping one.

Simon Kaimowitz is 18, with a baby face and a wispy red beard. His T-

shirt says " independent. " At his feet is the black box of files he

always carries. It has what he calls his " research, " the notes for a

science fiction story he's writing.

Carley asks him what he wants to bring up. Kaimowitz lets out a deep

sigh.

" My job is driving me crazy, " he says.

Kaimowitz is starting a college program later this summer. Right now

he works the night shift at a supermarket, bagging groceries, and

doing small maintenance jobs. It's too much.

" I am overwhelmed. I am stressed. I am going nuts, " Kaimowitz says,

speaking rapidly. " And on top of that I've requested help from my

bosses and they aren't giving it to me. "

Others in the room give Kaimowitz advice on how to approach his boss.

And they talk about the lessons they've learned on the job.

Downs talks about what she calls " stimming. " It's a kind of

repetitive motion. Hand flapping and rocking are common for

autistics. It's a way to relieve stress. But when Downs did work, she

had to give up her favorite way of stimming.

" When I was stressed, I would kind of skip around in circles for long

periods of time for no reason to calm myself down, " Downs tells the

group. " No apparent reason. And I had to learn I couldn't do that if

I wanted to keep the job. "

People who aren't autistic have more accepted ways to let go of

workplace stress: smoke a cigarette, grab a cup of coffee, gossip

with a co-worker.

The trick for autistics like Downs is to figure out what they can and

can't do, if they want to fit in with the rest of the world.

The people in this room are considered high-functioning autistics.

But GRASP recently stopped using that term. To call some people high-

functioning means you are calling other people low-functioning. And

when you meet autistics, you realize that labels like that can fall

apart pretty quickly.

Baggs, 25, has autism. And like some people with autism, she

doesn't speak. Instead, she communicates by typing -- with two

fingers and fast -- on her keyboard. The computer's voice speaks her

words.

" We perceive the world differently, " says Baggs through a

computer. " We think differently. And we respond to the world

differently. And that goes for all of us not just some of us. "

Partly because she doesn't speak, doctors have called her low-

functioning. It's a label Baggs says she doesn't put much stock in.

" Oh, good grief, yes. The only label I've ever formally gotten is low-

functioning, " she writes. " I don't believe in functioning levels.

High- functioning and low and all that crud is mostly illusions in

peoples' heads. "

Sometimes Baggs wears a T-shirt that says: " Not Being Able to Speak

is Not the Same as Not Having Anything to Say. "

Baggs has a blog where she writes thoughtfully and passionately about

autism. " The main theme of the blog, " she says, " is that all people

are valuable. "

The Internet has provided a community for autistics.

" Many of us have a lot of trouble with face to face interaction and

are also extremely isolated, " Baggs says. " Like a lot of autistic

people, I rarely even leave the house. A lot of us have trouble with

spoken language, and so a lot of us find it easier to write on the

Internet than to talk in person. There's a lot of us where we might

not be able to meet anywhere else but online, and so that's been a

lot of where we've organized. "

The autism pride movement has also organized at an annual retreat

called Autreat.

Jim Sinclair came up with the idea after going to the meetings of

other autism organizations, where people with autism were depicted as

tragic, sick and broken.

But some children and adults with autism change over time. As a kid,

Sinclair could echo the words of others, but didn't talk until age

12.

So in 1996, Sinclair started the first Autreat, which is a convention

for and by other autistics.

" Autreat is a way to celebrate each other or finding each other, "

says Sinclair. " The presentations are not about how terrible it is to

be autistic, but how to develop skills and learn information and how

to do things as autistic people that will improve our lives. "

This year's Autreat is in Philadelphia from June 26 to June 29. There

will be sessions on how to deal with prejudice and how to use

technology for communication.

Sinclair says Autreat is one place where autistic people can feel

comfortable.

" Nobody is expected to act normal. There is absolutely no pressure to

make eye contact. To stop stimming. To not echo. To speak. To even

join in, " he says. " If you want to sit off by yourself away from the

group, nobody's going to come and grab you and drag you to join in.

You can sit there as long as you want. If you eventually want to

join, you can. It's a safe environment. It's meant to be a safe

environment. "

More than 1 million Americans have autism. The autism pride movement

claims just a tiny number of them.

Sinclair says they're responding to people who tell them autism is

something that needs to be cured. They're asking -- instead -- to be

accepted just the way they are.

" What the rest of the world needs to know about autism is that it's

not something that can be separated out from the person, it's part of

the person, " explains Sinclair. " And so you cannot meaningfully say I

love my child but I hate the autism.

" That's like saying I love my child, but I hate that she's a girl and

I'd like her to be a boy instead. So when you're saying all of these

things about how terrible it is that you've lost a child and how much

your child is a disappointment to you, and how much that you wish you

had a different kind of child, we're hearing that. And what we're

hearing is that you don't want us and you want someone else instead. "

Back at the support group in Connecticut, Carley winds

up the meeting. It's been two hours. " Good meeting, " he says from the

front of the room. " Thank you all for being a great, great group. "

Among people with autism, Carley is lucky. He's got a wife, two kids,

and a mortgage.

Still, he knows life would be easier without his Asperger's syndrome.

He would understand social cues. He would get along better in work

and in everyday interactions.

But Carley says he's come to like being autistic. He even celebrates

it.

If a cure were invented for autism, would he take it?

Carley does not hesitate before answering.

" No. Never will. Never ever will, " he says. " I love the way my brain

works, I always have and it's one of the things I can now admit to

myself. I like the way I think in terms of numbers. I like the way I

visualize things. I like the way most especially that I can bury

myself in work that I love to a degree that makes everybody else in

the world looks at me and go, 'God! I wish I could do that.' No, I am

not changing anything. "

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