Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Sierra, Assuming many things (for example, one assumption I'll make is that you were taking 20 mg per day - time is a more important factor here anyway; another is that we don't care that you probably didn't reach a steady state yet - that would take about five half-lives), it's generally accepted that, for a great many medications, ROUGHLY 97% of a given drug is eliminated after 5 half-lives. http://www.boomer.org/c/p1/Ch04/Ch0411.html The problem is: which half-life value am I going to use to try to estimate your situation? Although it's stated by the manufacturer (Aventis) that the half-life of Arava averages approximately two weeks, Aventis gives a range of between 1 and 4 weeks: http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/Profs/Datasheet/a/Aravatab.htm A few other sources list 6 weeks. This article reports on the half-life of the active metabolite of leflunomide: " Without cholestyramine, half-lives of up to 96 days have been found (population kinetics analysis). Thus, it may take up to 2 years to reach plasma active metabolite levels of <0.02 mg/ml due to individual variations in drug clearance. " http://teratology.org/updates/63pg106.pdf 96 days! That's a half-life of almost 14 weeks. It might be unusual, but it serves to illustrate that there is wide variability in the observed half-life values. So, if, for you and your circumstances, the half-life is 1 week, then 97% of the Arava is eliminated after 5 weeks. If, for you, the half-life is two weeks, then 50% of the Arava is gone after two weeks, 97% is gone after 10 weeks. If, for you, the half-life is around 4 weeks, then 97% of the Arava would be eliminated after 20 weeks. A half-life of 6 weeks would mean that 97% is gone after 30 weeks. A half-life of 14 weeks would mean that 97% is gone after 70 weeks. Also, to make things a bit more concrete, you can imagine, for the sake of simplicity, that you took all 420 mg (20 mg per days x 21 days) on one day and count down from there. Best case (half-life of 1 week): 97% of 420 mg (407 mg) is gone after 5 weeks (13 mg remains). Worst case (half-life of 14 weeks): 97% of 420 mg is gone after 70 weeks (and you still have 210 mg in your system after 14 weeks). Manufacturer's guess (2-week half-life): you have 210 mg in your system after 2 weeks, you have 105 mg in your system after 4 weeks, you have 52.5 or or mg left after 6 weeks. It gets more complicated if you consider that the first and last dose are three weeks apart. But you probably get the basic idea. That's the best I can do since there are so many individual variations, because I had to make some significant assumptions, and I am not sure of the half-life. It's very hard to know! Bottom line: It's not unreasonable to think that the Arava could still be helping you. Not an MD I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org [ ] Re: INFO - More on Arava (leflunomide) persistence/clearance > Do you know what this would translate to for a 3 week use--no loading > dose. (Can't recall the dose, but it was the standard given.) > > Sierra > > > >> >> Clinical Geriatrics >> " Management of Rheumatoid Arthritis in the Elderly " >> >> >> Excerpt: >> >> " Leflunomide is a pro-drug that undergoes hepatic metabolism in the > liver to >> an active metabolite, A77 1726, two-thirds of which is excreted by > the gut >> and one-third by the kidney. The half-life of leflunomide is rather > long, >> about 15 days. In addition, the drug undergoes continuous > enterohepatic >> recirculation. Leflunomide levels will therefore remain for many > months >> after the medication is stopped. The drug can be efficiently > removed from >> circulation with the addition of the resin cholestyramine, which > binds >> leflunomide in the gut, causing elimination in the stool. " >> >> >> http://www.hmpcommunications.com/cg/displayArticle.cfm? > articleID=cgac547 >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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