Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 Dear Jeena: I just went to your website. It was so informative, and I appreciate all of your hard work it getting the message out. Can you tell me if your implants ruptured? I'm always wondering if it's the women with ruptured implants that have all the terrible illnesses. Thanks megan ----- Original Message ----- From: el_jeena <el_jeena@...> < > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 12:11 PM Subject: Thanks ... > I appreciate your post. Your point about this society putting too > much emphasis on breast size and the self esteem issue is SO KEY in > this entire phenomenon! > > You are certainly not alone in your stand on implants. Having been > where most of us on this forum have been, OUR PRIORITIES become so > CLEAR. BIG boobs just become RIDICULOUS when you are rolling around, > crying in pain, the only person still awake in your household, > walking into the kitchen 20 times a day and forgetting why you went > in there, and being treated as though you are faking! If it were up > to me, I would tell women to find other alternatives to breast > implants (and I do!), trying to build their self esteem, and urging > women to RUN FROM THEM. You and I are coming from HINDSIGHT and our > vision and our priorities have come into perspective. > > Tell that to a young girl who has severely deformed or tuberous > breasts, or a woman who faces the risk of death from cancer, or a > woman who has breastfed and now won't even undress in front of her > husband anymore--and they may not CARE if they face a risk. Tell that > to woman who has lost her husband to some young chick with fake perky > boobs and left alone feeling old, used and discarded and can't face > dating or allowing another man to see her body. In fact, many DON'T > care about the risks, they just want HELP in any way they can get it. > > In this journey we call life, we are all at different points in the > road. Like it or not, there are really some women who are not sick, > are not in pain, are not financially depleted, are happy and love > their implants. Some day they may be where we are, and some may never > be where we are. That is the fact. > > You are SO RIGHT about breast implants not being life saving devices > such as heart valves, or dialysis tubing, shunts, joint replacements, > organ transplants, etc. There is WAY too much emphasis on BREASTS in > our society. NORMAL, lovely breasts are now viewed as ABNORMAL. > > I look at MOST boob jobs now and I actually think they are UGLY! When > I see that characteristic upper BULGE that looks as though they were > smashed in a pushup bra (and STILL LOOK THAT WAY ONCE THE BRA IS > OFF!!) I just cringe because I honestly think they are so grotesque > and deformed looking! And the sad part is that young MEN now think > that is BEAUTY and NORMAL! They often think normal, slightly sagging > breasts are deformed! We are bombarded with FAKE BOOBS everyday. Our > entire society is victimized and brainwashed! As you said, mothers > are encouraging their young daughters to have implants so they have a > better shot at the high school/college beauty pageants and they feel > they must compete for a good man! > > Like it or not, even those large, heavy FAKE boobs which are rarely > symmetrical or nicely shaped, are often seen as an improvement over > tuberous, deflated, sagging or missing breasts. And in fact, in some > cases--THEY are an improvement. > > The plastic surgeons see MANY women who have reason to be unhappy > with their breasts. They have seen it all and they have the > compassion to see the agony in the women's eyes and face when they > have to uncover their breasts. THERE truly are PITIFUL cases and > they have the right to get help. > > Some women only need a lift, or a little modification of their > breasts and the surgeons are often too quick to push implants. It is > much easier for them to shove them in, than to correct some of the > deformities. > > Women seeking help should be shown EVERYTHING, see all their options, > and SHOWN what can happen, should implantation fail. Women who don't > have a real problem would probably have their consult and go home and > thank GOD they don't have truly ugly bodies. > > True, they are not life saving devices, but some women are so > tortured with their breasts that they are depressed, consider suicide > and would rather die or be sick than feel that anguish. Some have > been laughed at when unclothed. Some have had their husbands tell > them they are abnormal. Some would rather lose their breasts than > face another day with the ones they have. > > I also will not die if I don't get my shoulder replacement, and there > is a chance that the quality of my life will improve if I take the > risk. My joint will NEVER be as good as the one I was born with. I > must be realistic. It may improve my life, it may be a huge mistake, > and it may be the lessor of two evils. At one time, , I put > more value on my breasts than I did my arm. If someone would have > said, " CHOSE NOW--an arm, or your breasts! " I would have honestly > given up my arm. I have changed, but I still remember what it was > like to have my priorities different. At one time, when I had my > silicone implants, I WORRIED that I would have a rupture and would > not be able to get a new one. I was scared to death when the FDA > first talked of taking them off the market completely. I was > MORTIFIED. > > It took alot of pain and agony for me to get to the place I am in > now. I just chose to NOT FORGET what it was like to be on " the other > side " in order that I may win some to help our cause. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 I never said that there wasn't a need for implants however, there is not enough research to make them safe enough to be implanting them the way they are today , I am sorry but I realize the way I felt about my sagging breasts was as awful as it comes, you see Jeena I was one of those women who would not take my shirt off in front of anyone, I was the woman who was depresed over my breasts, look at my pre implant pics, I was deformed in my mind I was desperate to fix them, well I ended up sick and then I was in the worse nightmare of my life, so I cannot in any way feel different than I do about implants, I am not saying that your wrong, I agree that you are right, however I was one of those women and I wish I had know then what I know now because once you get so ill like I did you no longer care about anything else but your health. I just cannot feel good about anything to do with implants. I feel they are inferior products that need to be researched before they are used at the level they are now, I realize it may be too late for that, and that is ok, everyone has the right to get implants now if that is what they want, however I do feel they are really really dangerous and that if women don't hear the facts then they will end up risking their lifes for fake boobs, it is just not worth it. ANyhow I am sorry if I seem one sided to anyone here, however, implants almost cost me everything, so looking back now I see that if I had just been told I could get a lift and be healthy and happy and move on with my life, I would neer have had to suffer the way I did. Also remember I never had one day of implants that wasn't hell, I got sick so fast that there is no memories of enjoying implants, the improvements they made to my self esteem were small and meaningless due to my illness. I am going to the gym now, I don't know what else to say, I have my opinions and while others may not agree with them I still feel that more research needs to be done before implants are viewed so lightly and sought so quickly esp in such young females as they are today, it is my firm belief that in the future there are going to be more and more implant victims wishing they had been more informed, like me. Love ----- Original Message ----- From: " el_jeena " <el_jeena@...> < > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:11 AM Subject: Thanks ... > I appreciate your post. Your point about this society putting too > much emphasis on breast size and the self esteem issue is SO KEY in > this entire phenomenon! > > You are certainly not alone in your stand on implants. Having been > where most of us on this forum have been, OUR PRIORITIES become so > CLEAR. BIG boobs just become RIDICULOUS when you are rolling around, > crying in pain, the only person still awake in your household, > walking into the kitchen 20 times a day and forgetting why you went > in there, and being treated as though you are faking! If it were up > to me, I would tell women to find other alternatives to breast > implants (and I do!), trying to build their self esteem, and urging > women to RUN FROM THEM. You and I are coming from HINDSIGHT and our > vision and our priorities have come into perspective. > > Tell that to a young girl who has severely deformed or tuberous > breasts, or a woman who faces the risk of death from cancer, or a > woman who has breastfed and now won't even undress in front of her > husband anymore--and they may not CARE if they face a risk. Tell that > to woman who has lost her husband to some young chick with fake perky > boobs and left alone feeling old, used and discarded and can't face > dating or allowing another man to see her body. In fact, many DON'T > care about the risks, they just want HELP in any way they can get it. > > In this journey we call life, we are all at different points in the > road. Like it or not, there are really some women who are not sick, > are not in pain, are not financially depleted, are happy and love > their implants. Some day they may be where we are, and some may never > be where we are. That is the fact. > > You are SO RIGHT about breast implants not being life saving devices > such as heart valves, or dialysis tubing, shunts, joint replacements, > organ transplants, etc. There is WAY too much emphasis on BREASTS in > our society. NORMAL, lovely breasts are now viewed as ABNORMAL. > > I look at MOST boob jobs now and I actually think they are UGLY! When > I see that characteristic upper BULGE that looks as though they were > smashed in a pushup bra (and STILL LOOK THAT WAY ONCE THE BRA IS > OFF!!) I just cringe because I honestly think they are so grotesque > and deformed looking! And the sad part is that young MEN now think > that is BEAUTY and NORMAL! They often think normal, slightly sagging > breasts are deformed! We are bombarded with FAKE BOOBS everyday. Our > entire society is victimized and brainwashed! As you said, mothers > are encouraging their young daughters to have implants so they have a > better shot at the high school/college beauty pageants and they feel > they must compete for a good man! > > Like it or not, even those large, heavy FAKE boobs which are rarely > symmetrical or nicely shaped, are often seen as an improvement over > tuberous, deflated, sagging or missing breasts. And in fact, in some > cases--THEY are an improvement. > > The plastic surgeons see MANY women who have reason to be unhappy > with their breasts. They have seen it all and they have the > compassion to see the agony in the women's eyes and face when they > have to uncover their breasts. THERE truly are PITIFUL cases and > they have the right to get help. > > Some women only need a lift, or a little modification of their > breasts and the surgeons are often too quick to push implants. It is > much easier for them to shove them in, than to correct some of the > deformities. > > Women seeking help should be shown EVERYTHING, see all their options, > and SHOWN what can happen, should implantation fail. Women who don't > have a real problem would probably have their consult and go home and > thank GOD they don't have truly ugly bodies. > > True, they are not life saving devices, but some women are so > tortured with their breasts that they are depressed, consider suicide > and would rather die or be sick than feel that anguish. Some have > been laughed at when unclothed. Some have had their husbands tell > them they are abnormal. Some would rather lose their breasts than > face another day with the ones they have. > > I also will not die if I don't get my shoulder replacement, and there > is a chance that the quality of my life will improve if I take the > risk. My joint will NEVER be as good as the one I was born with. I > must be realistic. It may improve my life, it may be a huge mistake, > and it may be the lessor of two evils. At one time, , I put > more value on my breasts than I did my arm. If someone would have > said, " CHOSE NOW--an arm, or your breasts! " I would have honestly > given up my arm. I have changed, but I still remember what it was > like to have my priorities different. At one time, when I had my > silicone implants, I WORRIED that I would have a rupture and would > not be able to get a new one. I was scared to death when the FDA > first talked of taking them off the market completely. I was > MORTIFIED. > > It took alot of pain and agony for me to get to the place I am in > now. I just chose to NOT FORGET what it was like to be on " the other > side " in order that I may win some to help our cause. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 Jeena You said like it or not, I hope I didn't give the impression that I want people to get sick from implants, that is anything but the truth I am happy that there are women who are fine with implants, I really hope they stay that way, the problem is that if they end up sick they will find themselves in a much worse position than they are in even with small misshapen breasts. ANyhow I reread that and had to comment that I have no ill will towards anyone with implants who is happy and healthy, my god I only hope they stay that way. Love, ----- Original Message ----- From: " el_jeena " <el_jeena@...> < > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:11 AM Subject: Thanks ... > I appreciate your post. Your point about this society putting too > much emphasis on breast size and the self esteem issue is SO KEY in > this entire phenomenon! > > You are certainly not alone in your stand on implants. Having been > where most of us on this forum have been, OUR PRIORITIES become so > CLEAR. BIG boobs just become RIDICULOUS when you are rolling around, > crying in pain, the only person still awake in your household, > walking into the kitchen 20 times a day and forgetting why you went > in there, and being treated as though you are faking! If it were up > to me, I would tell women to find other alternatives to breast > implants (and I do!), trying to build their self esteem, and urging > women to RUN FROM THEM. You and I are coming from HINDSIGHT and our > vision and our priorities have come into perspective. > > Tell that to a young girl who has severely deformed or tuberous > breasts, or a woman who faces the risk of death from cancer, or a > woman who has breastfed and now won't even undress in front of her > husband anymore--and they may not CARE if they face a risk. Tell that > to woman who has lost her husband to some young chick with fake perky > boobs and left alone feeling old, used and discarded and can't face > dating or allowing another man to see her body. In fact, many DON'T > care about the risks, they just want HELP in any way they can get it. > > In this journey we call life, we are all at different points in the > road. Like it or not, there are really some women who are not sick, > are not in pain, are not financially depleted, are happy and love > their implants. Some day they may be where we are, and some may never > be where we are. That is the fact. > > You are SO RIGHT about breast implants not being life saving devices > such as heart valves, or dialysis tubing, shunts, joint replacements, > organ transplants, etc. There is WAY too much emphasis on BREASTS in > our society. NORMAL, lovely breasts are now viewed as ABNORMAL. > > I look at MOST boob jobs now and I actually think they are UGLY! When > I see that characteristic upper BULGE that looks as though they were > smashed in a pushup bra (and STILL LOOK THAT WAY ONCE THE BRA IS > OFF!!) I just cringe because I honestly think they are so grotesque > and deformed looking! And the sad part is that young MEN now think > that is BEAUTY and NORMAL! They often think normal, slightly sagging > breasts are deformed! We are bombarded with FAKE BOOBS everyday. Our > entire society is victimized and brainwashed! As you said, mothers > are encouraging their young daughters to have implants so they have a > better shot at the high school/college beauty pageants and they feel > they must compete for a good man! > > Like it or not, even those large, heavy FAKE boobs which are rarely > symmetrical or nicely shaped, are often seen as an improvement over > tuberous, deflated, sagging or missing breasts. And in fact, in some > cases--THEY are an improvement. > > The plastic surgeons see MANY women who have reason to be unhappy > with their breasts. They have seen it all and they have the > compassion to see the agony in the women's eyes and face when they > have to uncover their breasts. THERE truly are PITIFUL cases and > they have the right to get help. > > Some women only need a lift, or a little modification of their > breasts and the surgeons are often too quick to push implants. It is > much easier for them to shove them in, than to correct some of the > deformities. > > Women seeking help should be shown EVERYTHING, see all their options, > and SHOWN what can happen, should implantation fail. Women who don't > have a real problem would probably have their consult and go home and > thank GOD they don't have truly ugly bodies. > > True, they are not life saving devices, but some women are so > tortured with their breasts that they are depressed, consider suicide > and would rather die or be sick than feel that anguish. Some have > been laughed at when unclothed. Some have had their husbands tell > them they are abnormal. Some would rather lose their breasts than > face another day with the ones they have. > > I also will not die if I don't get my shoulder replacement, and there > is a chance that the quality of my life will improve if I take the > risk. My joint will NEVER be as good as the one I was born with. I > must be realistic. It may improve my life, it may be a huge mistake, > and it may be the lessor of two evils. At one time, , I put > more value on my breasts than I did my arm. If someone would have > said, " CHOSE NOW--an arm, or your breasts! " I would have honestly > given up my arm. I have changed, but I still remember what it was > like to have my priorities different. At one time, when I had my > silicone implants, I WORRIED that I would have a rupture and would > not be able to get a new one. I was scared to death when the FDA > first talked of taking them off the market completely. I was > MORTIFIED. > > It took alot of pain and agony for me to get to the place I am in > now. I just chose to NOT FORGET what it was like to be on " the other > side " in order that I may win some to help our cause. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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