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From: " by way of ilena rose " <DIANSA@...>

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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:56 PM

Subject: About to have surgery....

> I am not sure if I am proceeding properly, but I had a couple of questions

> I wanted to post. I have been to see a plastic surgeon and am now waiting

> for insurance to approve my explantation....(30 year old implants which

> were supposed to be saline but turn out to be silicone) I have large

> ruptures, have been sick with fibromyalgia and other stuff for a few

years.

> I was told by the plastic surgeon (a woman, by the way!) that I have two

> options....either get new saline implants or have reconstructive surgery

3

> months later....(they can't do both explantation and reconstruction at

same

> time because it is too hard on your body)... 1. How safe are the new

> saline implants? She said they are safe and that they carry a lifetime

> warranty? I was told 29 years ago that my saline implants would be

> safe...They turned out to be silicone and have made me very sick. I was

> looking forward to NO implants, but reconstructive surgery 3 months later

> doesn't sound too good. And insurance probably wouldn't pay for the

> reconstruction. 2. My mammogram, which revealed the leakage, also

> revealed " calcification " . My PS said only two things cause this: cancer

> or silicone leakage. When they see this calcification in a mammogram of a

> woman without implants, they assume she has cancer. If she has implants,

> they assume it is caused by the implants, not cancer. The Catch 22 is

that

> they don't test for cancer until you have the explantation and then they

> send everything to the pathologist...In the meantime, I will have been

> re-implanted with these new, supposedly safe, warrantied saline implants,

> sewn up nice and tidy. THEN, two weeks later, I could be notified that

the

> pathologist has discovered cancer....THEN WHAT? The PS says no surgeon

> will biopsy my breasts or the pain and swelling in my armpit until all the

> " stuff " is removed....I've always heard that when someone has cancer it

> spreads rapidly and rampantly once the body is opened up....Doesn't this

> me! an that when my explantation/re-implantation is done, IF I have

cancer,

> won't this surgery make the cancer worse? Can anyone enlighten me here?

> It seems like that calcification thing is not good! 3. Last but not

> least, what about the pain and swelling in my armpit on the side where the

> largest leak is? I asked the PS if they remove the glands or whatever

that

> is....she said absolutely not. What then? Well, she said, it might be

> inflammation from the silicone...and it might go away after the old

> implants are removed. My question: what if it doesn't go away??? She

> couldn't answer that. Maybe someone " out there " can....I also have

> mysterious little lumps here and there throughout my body....doctors have

> said they are fat deposits....hard little lumps in non-fatty areas! Hmmmm

> I have no idea what to do.....As it stands now, I will be going in for

> surgery within a month....old implants out, new implants put in, then wait

> two weeks to see if I have cancer....and if I do, then it's back to

> surgery, I guess...this is very confusing. I'm 54 and have better things

> to do than worry about my boobs, know what I mean? I don't want new

> implants, but then, I don't want to be totally disfigured either.

Thanks

> for any input. Diane

>

>

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Diane,

If you have your explantation done, you will not be disfigured if you do not

get another set of implants. Many women in this group have been explanted

and are not deformed. Many had a mastopexy with explantation, and most are

very satisfied with their results. I did not have a mastopexy, and I'm

rather pleased with the way I look.

Saline implants are not safe--never have been and never will be. You are

exchanging one set of poison bags for another. And having another surgery

down the road if you do have CA is not what you would want.

Get the silicone implants removed, have a mastopexy done with the surgery,

and be happy with the body that God gave you. Saline implants must be

replaced every 7-10 yrs, so keep that in the back of your head. Most ps'

don't like to tell you that for fear of scaring you away. But just think,

every 7-10 yrs you have to have the old implants removed and new ones put

in. That is very difficult on your body, not to mention your emotions.

Be happy with what you have and don't mess with what God didn't want us to

mess with!!

e, RN, BSN

>From: " Heer " <idagirl@...>

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>Subject: Fw: About to have surgery....

>Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:04:59 -0700

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: " by way of ilena rose " <DIANSA@...>

><Recipient List Suppressed:;>

>Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:56 PM

>Subject: About to have surgery....

>

>

> > I am not sure if I am proceeding properly, but I had a couple of

>questions

> > I wanted to post. I have been to see a plastic surgeon and am now

>waiting

> > for insurance to approve my explantation....(30 year old implants which

> > were supposed to be saline but turn out to be silicone) I have large

> > ruptures, have been sick with fibromyalgia and other stuff for a few

>years.

> > I was told by the plastic surgeon (a woman, by the way!) that I have

>two

> > options....either get new saline implants or have reconstructive

>surgery

>3

> > months later....(they can't do both explantation and reconstruction at

>same

> > time because it is too hard on your body)... 1. How safe are the new

> > saline implants? She said they are safe and that they carry a lifetime

> > warranty? I was told 29 years ago that my saline implants would be

> > safe...They turned out to be silicone and have made me very sick. I was

> > looking forward to NO implants, but reconstructive surgery 3 months

>later

> > doesn't sound too good. And insurance probably wouldn't pay for the

> > reconstruction. 2. My mammogram, which revealed the leakage, also

> > revealed " calcification " . My PS said only two things cause this:

>cancer

> > or silicone leakage. When they see this calcification in a mammogram of

>a

> > woman without implants, they assume she has cancer. If she has

>implants,

> > they assume it is caused by the implants, not cancer. The Catch 22 is

>that

> > they don't test for cancer until you have the explantation and then they

> > send everything to the pathologist...In the meantime, I will have been

> > re-implanted with these new, supposedly safe, warrantied saline

>implants,

> > sewn up nice and tidy. THEN, two weeks later, I could be notified that

>the

> > pathologist has discovered cancer....THEN WHAT? The PS says no surgeon

> > will biopsy my breasts or the pain and swelling in my armpit until all

>the

> > " stuff " is removed....I've always heard that when someone has cancer it

> > spreads rapidly and rampantly once the body is opened up....Doesn't this

> > me! an that when my explantation/re-implantation is done, IF I have

>cancer,

> > won't this surgery make the cancer worse? Can anyone enlighten me

>here?

> > It seems like that calcification thing is not good! 3. Last but not

> > least, what about the pain and swelling in my armpit on the side where

>the

> > largest leak is? I asked the PS if they remove the glands or whatever

>that

> > is....she said absolutely not. What then? Well, she said, it might be

> > inflammation from the silicone...and it might go away after the old

> > implants are removed. My question: what if it doesn't go away??? She

> > couldn't answer that. Maybe someone " out there " can....I also have

> > mysterious little lumps here and there throughout my body....doctors

>have

> > said they are fat deposits....hard little lumps in non-fatty areas!

>Hmmmm

> > I have no idea what to do.....As it stands now, I will be going in for

> > surgery within a month....old implants out, new implants put in, then

>wait

> > two weeks to see if I have cancer....and if I do, then it's back to

> > surgery, I guess...this is very confusing. I'm 54 and have better

>things

> > to do than worry about my boobs, know what I mean? I don't want new

> > implants, but then, I don't want to be totally disfigured either.

>Thanks

> > for any input. Diane

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Diane

I have been more satisfied after the explantation rather more than ever.

(Even before implants and after implants). I feel so sexy now and super

happy without them. Not only physically (appearance) do I see an

improvement but mentally as well. It was the most important and greatest

decision I have ever made in my life.

Love,

Angelika

----- Original Message -----

From: " e Rene " <e_Rene@...>

< >

Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:48 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: About to have surgery....

> Diane,

>

> If you have your explantation done, you will not be disfigured if you do

not

> get another set of implants. Many women in this group have been explanted

> and are not deformed. Many had a mastopexy with explantation, and most

are

> very satisfied with their results. I did not have a mastopexy, and I'm

> rather pleased with the way I look.

>

> Saline implants are not safe--never have been and never will be. You are

> exchanging one set of poison bags for another. And having another surgery

> down the road if you do have CA is not what you would want.

>

> Get the silicone implants removed, have a mastopexy done with the surgery,

> and be happy with the body that God gave you. Saline implants must be

> replaced every 7-10 yrs, so keep that in the back of your head. Most ps'

> don't like to tell you that for fear of scaring you away. But just think,

> every 7-10 yrs you have to have the old implants removed and new ones put

> in. That is very difficult on your body, not to mention your emotions.

>

> Be happy with what you have and don't mess with what God didn't want us to

> mess with!!

>

> e, RN, BSN

>

>

> >From: " Heer " <idagirl@...>

> >Reply-

> >< >

> >Subject: Fw: About to have surgery....

> >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:04:59 -0700

> >

> >

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: " by way of ilena rose " <DIANSA@...>

> ><Recipient List Suppressed:;>

> >Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:56 PM

> >Subject: About to have surgery....

> >

> >

> > > I am not sure if I am proceeding properly, but I had a couple of

> >questions

> > > I wanted to post. I have been to see a plastic surgeon and am now

> >waiting

> > > for insurance to approve my explantation....(30 year old implants

which

> > > were supposed to be saline but turn out to be silicone) I have large

> > > ruptures, have been sick with fibromyalgia and other stuff for a few

> >years.

> > > I was told by the plastic surgeon (a woman, by the way!) that I have

> >two

> > > options....either get new saline implants or have reconstructive

> >surgery

> >3

> > > months later....(they can't do both explantation and reconstruction at

> >same

> > > time because it is too hard on your body)... 1. How safe are the new

> > > saline implants? She said they are safe and that they carry a

lifetime

> > > warranty? I was told 29 years ago that my saline implants would be

> > > safe...They turned out to be silicone and have made me very sick. I

was

> > > looking forward to NO implants, but reconstructive surgery 3 months

> >later

> > > doesn't sound too good. And insurance probably wouldn't pay for the

> > > reconstruction. 2. My mammogram, which revealed the leakage, also

> > > revealed " calcification " . My PS said only two things cause this:

> >cancer

> > > or silicone leakage. When they see this calcification in a mammogram

of

> >a

> > > woman without implants, they assume she has cancer. If she has

> >implants,

> > > they assume it is caused by the implants, not cancer. The Catch 22 is

> >that

> > > they don't test for cancer until you have the explantation and then

they

> > > send everything to the pathologist...In the meantime, I will have been

> > > re-implanted with these new, supposedly safe, warrantied saline

> >implants,

> > > sewn up nice and tidy. THEN, two weeks later, I could be notified

that

> >the

> > > pathologist has discovered cancer....THEN WHAT? The PS says no

surgeon

> > > will biopsy my breasts or the pain and swelling in my armpit until all

> >the

> > > " stuff " is removed....I've always heard that when someone has cancer

it

> > > spreads rapidly and rampantly once the body is opened up....Doesn't

this

> > > me! an that when my explantation/re-implantation is done, IF I have

> >cancer,

> > > won't this surgery make the cancer worse? Can anyone enlighten me

> >here?

> > > It seems like that calcification thing is not good! 3. Last but not

> > > least, what about the pain and swelling in my armpit on the side where

> >the

> > > largest leak is? I asked the PS if they remove the glands or whatever

> >that

> > > is....she said absolutely not. What then? Well, she said, it might

be

> > > inflammation from the silicone...and it might go away after the old

> > > implants are removed. My question: what if it doesn't go away???

She

> > > couldn't answer that. Maybe someone " out there " can....I also have

> > > mysterious little lumps here and there throughout my body....doctors

> >have

> > > said they are fat deposits....hard little lumps in non-fatty areas!

> >Hmmmm

> > > I have no idea what to do.....As it stands now, I will be going in for

> > > surgery within a month....old implants out, new implants put in, then

> >wait

> > > two weeks to see if I have cancer....and if I do, then it's back to

> > > surgery, I guess...this is very confusing. I'm 54 and have better

> >things

> > > to do than worry about my boobs, know what I mean? I don't want new

> > > implants, but then, I don't want to be totally disfigured either.

> >Thanks

> > > for any input. Diane

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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