Guest guest Posted August 30, 1999 Report Share Posted August 30, 1999 Dear le - I didn't see that particular one, but I have seen it before. Plenty of people get that. I know I take way too many pills..but like you said, what do you do live in pain? I can't, just the slightest twinge and I pop them..That goes for a headache too, can't stand them, so what do I do, pop some more. I never had an ulcer (or not that I know of), but my stomach is always upset...Everything I eat, hates me..if you know what I mean. My husband hates taking me out to dinner, because he says its a waste of money, I bearly make it home...Gross huh? Lets just say if I have a long drive, I don't eat that day!!!! There is some sad humor for you. It's either live like that or live in pain. (good way to to lose weight though). Hope I didn't gross anyone out. Jayne DaniGran@... wrote: > From: DaniGran@... > > Did anyone see the news report on NBC this past weekend concerning the woman > who took anti-inflammatory drugs for a long time and it gave her a bleeding > ulcer? > I know my Dr. has told me it could happen. But I was always under the > impression it would happen to people who take an overabundance! This woman > they profiled just seemed to be taking the amount I'm taking. > That's pretty scary. > Jayne - reading your post made me think of that. I guess we have to be > extremely careful with those NSAIDs. But, what do we do with the pain? Live > with it? I really wish they would come up with something! > > le > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2000 Report Share Posted March 23, 2000 I asked my doctor about that and he said yes, but things were busy that day, so did not elaborate. I wonder about that too. Will let you know If I find out anything more about that. Liz G > > Hi, > Does anyone have any idea if taking nsaids such as vioxx or daypro can > affect blood test results such as rheumatoid factor or sed rate, etc.? > They do reduce inflammation, so I am wondering a lot about this? > Thank you, > Gloria > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > DON'T HATE YOUR RATE! > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as > 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. > Apply NOW! > 1/2120/0/_/532797/_/953842962/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2000 Report Share Posted September 17, 2000 In a message dated 9/16/00 12:47:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jhowing@... writes: << Where did the info come from that says NSAIDS stop disease progression? >> Janie: I agree with you...my dr. has said hte the NSAIDS will not stop the progression...even the MTX will only prevent MORE joint damage according to my RD. I thought that info was a little wierd...hopefully someone can elaborate on it. And Prednisone only " masks " the symptoms according to my RD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Hi Jerry and Everyone, Yes Jerry, most all anti inflammatory meds. do cause flare-ups of P. I am told the newer Vioxx and Celebrex, do not cause this problem in P -PA sufferers. I tried celebrex and had side effects, so stopped it.. So I can not say if it would cause a flare-up of P. I am from the old school here with P and PA, and for 56 years have tried them all, short of MXT and other newer therapy that many of the list are on. I have had flare ups of P from meds that I needed to be admitted to the hospital. (far too many times) A shame that my pride tool over, and I decided I'd rather have the pain than the flare ups. (cause they are also painful, itchy burn etc,) A pain pill does the trick, for me without the flare-ups. Speaking for myself, of course. You all have a Good day. as can be said we never can say Good Morning, it's always Good Moaning. Alice Message: 6 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 03:58:56 -0000 From: vgriff@... Subject: anti-inflammatory and psoriasis Hey all, its here. You may remember that I have been trying to control pain and inflammation by staying away from gluten, sugar, and dairy. Well, i have been failing miserably to stay away from these goodies and my rheumatologist was sceptical anyway and insisting on my taking my Mobic. So for the last 2 weeks I have been on Mobic. However, in the meanwhile, I got a big patch of what looks to me like psoriasis pop up on the insides of my elbows! My question is this. Do anti-inflammatories make psoriasis worse? When I first came down with the stuff, November last, I got psoriasis all over me. Then this spring when i quit taking the anti-inflammaoties, the psoriasis went back to just one hand. I sure don't want to get that stuff started up all over me again but I do need something for pain. What does anyone think about this? Thanks in advance. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Hi, Alice! My rheumatologist and my dermatologist told me that Methotrexate would clear up my psoriasis. Unfortunately, I made liars out of both of them. The patches have not changed in size or intensity. They're both scratching their heads, wondering why I'm an exception to their rule. I tried a psoriasis tea that worked for a few months. However, when my body grew accustomed to the tea, the patches returned. I'm thinking of trying Dead Sea mud and salts, since people with psoriasis in Israel go to the Dead Sea for relief. A combination of the intense sunshine, mineral salts and mud seems to lessen their symptoms. Hope this helps a bit. Sincerely, Peggy anti-inflammatory and psoriasis > >Hey all, its here. You may remember that I have been trying to >control pain and inflammation by staying away from gluten, sugar, and >dairy. Well, i have been failing miserably to stay away from these >goodies and my rheumatologist was sceptical anyway and insisting on >my taking my Mobic. So for the last 2 weeks I have been on Mobic. >However, in the meanwhile, I got a big patch of what looks to me like >psoriasis pop up on the insides of my elbows! My question is this. Do >anti-inflammatories make psoriasis worse? When I first came down with >the stuff, November last, I got psoriasis all over me. Then this >spring when i quit taking the anti-inflammaoties, the psoriasis went >back to just one hand. I sure don't want to get that stuff started up >all over me again but I do need something for pain. What does anyone >think about this? Thanks in advance. > > > >. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Peggy- What was the tea that you were using? My psorisis is pretty bad right now and I would like to try something like a tea, until I can get in to see my so busy doctor on 8/9. Thanks...Jerry anti-inflammatory and psoriasis >> >>Hey all, its here. You may remember that I have been trying to >>control pain and inflammation by staying away from gluten, sugar, and >>dairy. Well, i have been failing miserably to stay away from these >>goodies and my rheumatologist was sceptical anyway and insisting on >>my taking my Mobic. So for the last 2 weeks I have been on Mobic. >>However, in the meanwhile, I got a big patch of what looks to me like >>psoriasis pop up on the insides of my elbows! My question is this. Do >>anti-inflammatories make psoriasis worse? When I first came down with >>the stuff, November last, I got psoriasis all over me. Then this >>spring when i quit taking the anti-inflammaoties, the psoriasis went >>back to just one hand. I sure don't want to get that stuff started up >>all over me again but I do need something for pain. What does anyone >>think about this? Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >>. >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Peggy, Mtx never cleared up my psoriasis......it helped but it never cleared it. The winter months were ususally the worst for me. By Feb I would start to use the lights , uvb, as that was the only thing that worked. This year of course, I've had to take steriods and that cleared up my patches, it is a catch 22, steriods are nasty and i'm hoping to be off of them by end of the year. nanc Peggy Walter wrote: > Hi, Alice! > My rheumatologist and my dermatologist told me that Methotrexate would > clear up my psoriasis. Unfortunately, I made liars out of both of them. > The patches have not changed in size or intensity. They're both scratching > their heads, wondering why I'm an exception to their rule. I > tried a psoriasis tea that worked for a few months. However, when my body > grew accustomed to the tea, the patches returned. I'm thinking of > trying Dead Sea mud and salts, since people with psoriasis in Israel go to > the Dead Sea for relief. A combination of the intense sunshine, mineral > salts and mud seems to lessen their symptoms. Hope this helps a bit. > > Sincerely, > > Peggy > anti-inflammatory and psoriasis > > > >Hey all, its here. You may remember that I have been trying to > >control pain and inflammation by staying away from gluten, sugar, and > >dairy. Well, i have been failing miserably to stay away from these > >goodies and my rheumatologist was sceptical anyway and insisting on > >my taking my Mobic. So for the last 2 weeks I have been on Mobic. > >However, in the meanwhile, I got a big patch of what looks to me like > >psoriasis pop up on the insides of my elbows! My question is this. Do > >anti-inflammatories make psoriasis worse? When I first came down with > >the stuff, November last, I got psoriasis all over me. Then this > >spring when i quit taking the anti-inflammaoties, the psoriasis went > >back to just one hand. I sure don't want to get that stuff started up > >all over me again but I do need something for pain. What does anyone > >think about this? Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > >. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 It didn't do much for me except make me exceedingly ill. I'm going on Enbrel. anti-inflammatory and psoriasis > > > >Hey all, its here. You may remember that I have been trying to > >control pain and inflammation by staying away from gluten, sugar, and > >dairy. Well, i have been failing miserably to stay away from these > >goodies and my rheumatologist was sceptical anyway and insisting on > >my taking my Mobic. So for the last 2 weeks I have been on Mobic. > >However, in the meanwhile, I got a big patch of what looks to me like > >psoriasis pop up on the insides of my elbows! My question is this. Do > >anti-inflammatories make psoriasis worse? When I first came down with > >the stuff, November last, I got psoriasis all over me. Then this > >spring when i quit taking the anti-inflammaoties, the psoriasis went > >back to just one hand. I sure don't want to get that stuff started up > >all over me again but I do need something for pain. What does anyone > >think about this? Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > >. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 Hi Jackie, I take Vioxx 25 mg in the morning. When I started the AP and was in a sad state I was taking 2 a day. After being on AP for 6 months I'm down to one. I also increased the Minocin from 100mg MWF to 200 mg MWF after about three months. I seem to be tolerating this although I did herx a little when I increased the Minocin but all is quiet now. Personally, I find that MSM and Flax Seed oil help alot but as I'm sure you know everyone finds that what works for one may not help another. I found out those two things help me by lots of trial and error. The jury is still out on Moducare. I've been taking it for about 2 1/2 months but recently stopped and I'm waiting to see if there's a difference. Take Care, Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 NSAIDs inhibit platelet aggregation. Docs stop NSAIDs 2 weeks or more before surgery to give platelets a chance to recover. Platelets need to aggregate (clump) to stop bleeding from an open vein or artery. NSAIDs inhibit COX-1 and COX-2 enzyme systems. COX-1 protects the stomach lining and helps platelets aggegate. COX-2 promotes pain and inflammation. NSAIDs knock out both COX enzymes, the targeted one (COX-2) which is causing the pain and inflammation (hence the name, anti-inflammatory) and by default, the protective enzymes (COX-1). Vioxx is not an NSAID like the others. It is a selective COX-2 inhibitor - anti-inflammatory but leaving the protective COX-1 enzymes in place. In fact, you can take aspirin prophylactically for your heart while you take Vioxx. Since it doesn't prevent or inhibit platelet aggregation, it is safe to take right up to surgery. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 In a message dated 11/1/01 9:12:05 PM Central Standard Time, carlsonc@... writes: > In > fact, you can take aspirin prophylactically for your heart while you take > Vioxx. it seems you are very knowledgable regarding nsaids. however i will disagree to any statement that says specifically that you can take vioxx to the actual date of surgery. the doctors should take an inr reading as well as a pt and ptt reading to determine when you have to stop taking the nsaid. i had to stop both my coumadin and the viiox 5 days prior to having an upper gi with scope done to make sure the levels were safe to perform a biopsy in the event anything was found. the doc who performed the scope was extremely adamant about not doing the surgery without taking the blood tests. considering the amount of meds we all take for the PA any and every doc should be told exactly what dosages of all our medicines are taken daily so they can make an educated decision as to when the neds should be stopped prior to surgery. people who don't have to take blood thinners, whether coumadin, aspirin etc, cannot begin to realize how many drugs affect each other and the coagulation levels, been there and haven't been away since. this is one field i am extremely cautious about. make sure you take your docs advise and rule out any informa tion you may be willing to try from even the best of friends because we are all different. what works for one may not work for another. good luck, chicagoland sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2002 Report Share Posted January 2, 2002 I'm one of those that doesn't require a nsaid. Over a nearly two year period of Minocin, good ovo-vegetarian diet, and a few suppliments my rheumatoid arthritis slowly melted away and my blood work returned to normal(Knocking on wood). It can happen for you, you just have to figure out what your body needs. Mine needed serious dietary changes i feel. rheumatic nsaids Dear Mark and others, You were saying, "IF you use them" as if there are other options. Wereyou meaning that some people don't have enough pain to use them, or were youmeaning that there is an alternative?I have so much pain, even when the nsaid is working, I don't see how I couldnot take them. Is there some other way to get rid of the pain, besidessteroids? I worry about the long term side effects or taking so many nsaidsover the years, AND, the one I am using now, Voltaran EC, works so well onbody pain (not why I am taking it),it would mask warning pain from cancer or other illnesses. Vioxx worked for awhile, but then made my feet swell horribly. Celebrexjust stopped working after awhile as all the other nsaids I have taken did.Thank you,GloriaTo unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2002 Report Share Posted April 3, 2002 > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:58:12 -0600 > From: <MissGloria@...> > Subject: nsaids > > Hi, > Do nsaids like Voltarin and Relafen etc. > weaken the immune response like dmards do? Yes, but in different ways. Geoff soli Deo gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Wow, isn't it amazing the QUACKS that are out there? I know what you mean, I have some first hand experience with a few of these jokers in my time. As if it weren't bad enough this condition that we have to live with. We have to spend a good deal of time filtering out the BS from the sound advice. Woe is the poor individual who thinks that just because he is a Doctor, that he knows all and we better do as he says. Thank God for these forums, so that we can learn from each other. I am not exaggerating when I say that between the discussion groups and just surfing for more and more info, I have learned 10 times more that any Doctor ever taught me about my condition. I realize that the Web isn't just truths either, but I have gotten pretty good by this time at " filtering out the BS " . Good Luck!! In , " nonny46 " <nonny46@y...> wrote: > Hello all, > > I saw our new PCP yesterday, and he quickly became our former PCP, as > I walked out of the office. He is a young man, looked like he hadn't > shaved for a couple of days, and quickly started telling me that > everything that I had worked for and been told up to this point was > completely wrong, that if I didn't stop taking the Diclofenac and > Ultram, I would die!! Ron was with me, and was very upset. I had > complete bloodwork done in that office a month ago, and was told by > the nurse-prac then that everything was normal--this guy said that I > am diabetic and insulin resistant. But the main thing was the NSAID > and the pain med--he said I didn't need them, I just needed to > exercise more! > > To my knowledge, neither medication has had any published problems, > and my body seems content with them, but now I have to find a new PCP > in order to continue with the pain relief I have come to enjoy! > > Blast. > > Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Judi, please don't ignore him about the possibility of being diabetic and insulin resistant. He could very well be right about that. Do you know what the numbers were that he based this diagnosis on? Diabetes is a very serious disease, and the complications can be deadly. But it can also be controlled if you acknowledge it and take charge of it. There are lots of effective new medications, as well as insulin when you need it. The standards for diagnosis of diabetes have been changed recently, and it may be that this young man is just more up to date on that than the nurse-practitioner. It is such a sneaky disease that many people are walking around with it and don't know it. Many GPs do a lousy job of discovering it. Sue On Thursday, May 12, 2005, at 10:47 AM, nonny46 wrote: > I had > complete bloodwork done in that office a month ago, and was told by > the nurse-prac then that everything was normal--this guy said that I > am diabetic and insulin resistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 OMG, who died and left him Supreme Commander of the Doc People? He probably doesn't believe women have labor pains either! What a jerk! I am so glad that you are blowing him off- God has the right doc out there for you. I went to a doc about my knee when I was about 30 years old. Probably the beginning of all this stuff, in retrospect...but this guy had the audacity to say, " well, Mrs. , you're not getting any younger. " I think he was about twelve..... Jane > Hello all, > > I saw our new PCP yesterday, and he quickly became our former PCP, as > I walked out of the office. He is a young man, looked like he hadn't > shaved for a couple of days, and quickly started telling me that > everything that I had worked for and been told up to this point was > completely wrong, that if I didn't stop taking the Diclofenac and > Ultram, I would die!! Ron was with me, and was very upset. I had > complete bloodwork done in that office a month ago, and was told by > the nurse-prac then that everything was normal--this guy said that I > am diabetic and insulin resistant. But the main thing was the NSAID > and the pain med--he said I didn't need them, I just needed to > exercise more! > > To my knowledge, neither medication has had any published problems, > and my body seems content with them, but now I have to find a new PCP > in order to continue with the pain relief I have come to enjoy! > > Blast. > > Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Thanks, Jane--you made me chuckle. Odd thing is, our son in law and daughter saw him this afternoon--he is treating SIL for some minor problems relating to his heart and breathing (he smoked for 35 years, quit a year ago when he married our daughter.) They both said he was soooo nice, very thorough, explained things to them, and they like him. I'm glad. Maybe he just doesn't like overweight, older women with rare diseases. Yes, I believe that God will lead me to the right medical professional, I just need to listen. Peace, Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 I have rheumatoid arthritis I also have severe OA in knee and ankle joints. Right now my problem is I am no longer able to any nsaids. I have developed kidney failure due to nsaids for the second time. I do use humiria, but am trying to find information on what drugs are available to me as an anti-inflammatory. in WI __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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