Re: Re: very interesting article about Ketamine combatting depression

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NO, but i know there are a lot of depression sufferers that would like an

alternative to ssri's. I DO know its a hallucinogen, i know its a party

drug--though i cant imagine not being able to move would be very pleasant. My

personal experience with hallucinogens (LSD and mushrooms) in college started

great and was fun but got worse and worse until i never did them again because

of all the obvious negative effects. The first time was fun, each time after

that was more and more intense and finally " bad trips " made me never want to do

them again. Profound anxiety, depersonalization and losing touch with reality

and what it " feels like " to be me was too much to handle--personally, along with

the length of time " tripping " being longer and longer each time i did them (it

didnt help to take multiple hits either--TOO intense). eight to ten hours of

hallucinating definitely makes you feel like you are going to get " stuck " in

that mode. Conversely, i never felt

like i could fly and never felt invincible--i never felt the way they portray

them--like i was " out of my mind and out of control. " i was aware the whole time

that i was hallucinating and i still knew i couldnt fly--i knew i was on drugs,

i knew it would not last--but you do get the creepy feeling you might get stuck

that way--because it lasts way too long.

I have never done ketamine, i wont--i am not depressed, though, i suffer from

anxiety. Some people who post that are so depressed they feel like they have no

other choice than to take ssri's might consider it as an alternative option.

I personally feel that in the right setting, under the strictest of

conditions, people should be given the chance to try it. I feel that way about

any banned drugs. They prescribe neuroleptic drugs like candy and they mess

people up WAY WORSE. I think the medical community feels like if a drug gets you

all " high " or gives you pleasure it should be demonized as something bad. I dont

feel that is correct, except in the case of individuals who are addictive types

and display pill seeking behavior. I dont think most people are like that. I

know i only take medicine to treat my symptoms. I never abuse my prescription

and i do not take enough to get " fucked up. " Period. I would much rather be

completely off them altogether. (benzodiazipines, FYI, which are commonly

abused.)

lisa

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> Subject: Re: very interesting article about Ketamine combatting

depression

> To: SSRIsex

> Date: Saturday, May 3, 2008, 7:16 AM

> To be fair, it is a horse tranquellizer. I tried it before.

> I can see

> some potential for it. It upregulates 5ht1a receptors apart

> from

> anything else. On the other hand, it is extremely strong,

> and causes

> halluciantions and makes you unable to move. The comedown

> is also very

> bad. It is also extremely strong however. I am not sure why

> you thought

> this article was " extremely interesting, " do you

> know much about

> ketamine?

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I didnt really think this was a solution for PSSD--i dont even know if it would

help PSSD, i was interested about its anti-depressive qualities for the people

who post with such profound depression that they feel the need for medication.

This might be great for them--and might replace the use of an SSRI. I dont even

know which is worse. They BOTH might be bad, just in different ways. I think

most drugs are hard on some part of our bodies.

lisa

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> Subject: Re: very interesting article about Ketamine combatting

depression

> To: SSRIsex

> Date: Monday, May 12, 2008, 9:06 AM

> It isnt like LSD. If you take a lot you cant move and

> don't know who

> you are. It is also very addictive. I always thought the

> best

> treatment for PSSD would probably be ECT, or there is a

> particular

> drug that contains a 5ht1a agonist which enhances

> respiration.

>

>

>

> >

> > >

> > > Subject: Re: very interesting article

> about Ketamine

> combatting depression

> > > To: SSRIsex

> > > Date: Saturday, May 3, 2008, 7:16 AM

> > > To be fair, it is a horse tranquellizer. I tried

> it before.

> > > I can see

> > > some potential for it. It upregulates 5ht1a

> receptors apart

> > > from

> > > anything else. On the other hand, it is extremely

> strong,

> > > and causes

> > > halluciantions and makes you unable to move. The

> comedown

> > > is also very

> > > bad. It is also extremely strong however. I am

> not sure why

> > > you thought

> > > this article was " extremely

> interesting, " do you

> > > know much about

> > > ketamine?

> >

> >

> >

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i dont know what you mean about taking a quote straight from " house " . Is this

even directed at me? What are you talking about?

>

> Subject: Re: very interesting article about Ketamine combatting

depression

> To: SSRIsex

> Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 5:08 AM

> Well I'll ignore the fact that you've just taken a

> quote straight

> from " House. "

>

> Ketamine blocks certain receptors in the brain, causing a

> trranquilising effect and making you hallucinate.

> That's all.

[Guest guest]

" Physical Injury " is a term that encompasses so much,

it's practically meaningless. We don't even know what

specific brain or body injury causes PSSD. Ketamine

seems like a long shot, but many hallucinogens can

stimulate sex drive.

--- magurkin52 wrote:

> There was a study in Germany linking ketamine to

> reversal of physical

> injury. You don't think it could work for PSSD?

>

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