Re: Prescribed Prozac - Have Not Taken Yet

[Guest guest]

Are you suffering from genital numbness from the Paxil or you

believe its the saw palmetto?

>

> I'm still suffering from sexual/physical/mental side effects from

my

> brief Saw Palmetto experience and I feel like I'm going insane.

I'm

> on Wellbutrin 300 XL and now my psych wants me to go on Prozac.

As

> stated before, I was on Paxil for 6 years and the only bad sexual

> side effect was lack of sex drive (other sides were constant

fatigue,

> small weigh gain, etc)... I successfully withdrew from it last

year

> but my libido never recovered. I had premature ejaculation after,

> but when I took SP in January it ruined everything because I

> accidentally was taking too high of a dosage. My Paxil WD success

> story has been ruined because of an oversight on my part. I'm

> suffering from genital numbness, zero libido, no morning/random

> erections, muscle wastage, loss of facial fat, premature aging,

etc.

>

> I'm very leery about going on Prozac, it seems like it will only

> worsen the situation but the depression and anxiety I'm suffering

> from, which was induced by SP, is unbearable and I cannot function

at

> work and school. Sleep is terrible. I can only pretend

everything

> is OK with my gf for so long.... I can't believe 9 days of SP has

> f***ed up my life possibly forever. I think 6 years of Paxil

lowered

> my testosterone as well as messed with other parts of my endocrine

> system which made me more susceptible to what happened to me. I

just

> want to go back to normal but it's been over 4 months with very

> little improvement. I lost my erection WITH Viagra last weekend

> while having sex and it was the most devastating thing I've ever

> encountered. I tried to hold back tears but couldn't, but my gf

was

> understanding about it. Still, this has been the worst 4 months

of

> my entire life and it's all my fault since I self-induced it.

>

[Guest guest]

Saw Palmetto caused it - after I stopped it my body crashed and it's

been numb (and losing size) since. My genitals were VERY sensitive

prior to this, on Paxil and off of it.

> >

> > I'm still suffering from sexual/physical/mental side effects from

> my

> > brief Saw Palmetto experience and I feel like I'm going insane.

> I'm

> > on Wellbutrin 300 XL and now my psych wants me to go on Prozac.

> As

> > stated before, I was on Paxil for 6 years and the only bad sexual

> > side effect was lack of sex drive (other sides were constant

> fatigue,

> > small weigh gain, etc)... I successfully withdrew from it last

> year

> > but my libido never recovered. I had premature ejaculation

after,

> > but when I took SP in January it ruined everything because I

> > accidentally was taking too high of a dosage. My Paxil WD

success

> > story has been ruined because of an oversight on my part. I'm

> > suffering from genital numbness, zero libido, no morning/random

> > erections, muscle wastage, loss of facial fat, premature aging,

> etc.

> >

> > I'm very leery about going on Prozac, it seems like it will only

> > worsen the situation but the depression and anxiety I'm suffering

> > from, which was induced by SP, is unbearable and I cannot

function

> at

> > work and school. Sleep is terrible. I can only pretend

> everything

> > is OK with my gf for so long.... I can't believe 9 days of SP has

> > f***ed up my life possibly forever. I think 6 years of Paxil

> lowered

> > my testosterone as well as messed with other parts of my

endocrine

> > system which made me more susceptible to what happened to me. I

> just

> > want to go back to normal but it's been over 4 months with very

> > little improvement. I lost my erection WITH Viagra last weekend

> > while having sex and it was the most devastating thing I've ever

> > encountered. I tried to hold back tears but couldn't, but my gf

> was

> > understanding about it. Still, this has been the worst 4 months

> of

> > my entire life and it's all my fault since I self-induced it.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You may well be suffering from depression, but I don't see how the

prozac could possibly help you - more likely it will make thinsg

worse. It's also possible that the wellbutrin is making things worse

for you. It helps some people, but not others.

The weight loss in your face is unusual. Loss of fat on the face can

be a consequence of a high DHT to estrogen ratio -- likewise,

a " puffy' face can be caused by low DHT and high estrogen. What are

your DHT level?

You could try slowing down the " premature aging " with resveratrol.

Also, have you tried low-dose daily cialis onstead of viagra?

Vornan

>

> I'm still suffering from sexual/physical/mental side effects from

my

> brief Saw Palmetto experience and I feel like I'm going insane.

I'm

> on Wellbutrin 300 XL and now my psych wants me to go on Prozac. As

> stated before, I was on Paxil for 6 years and the only bad sexual

> side effect was lack of sex drive (other sides were constant

fatigue,

> small weigh gain, etc)... I successfully withdrew from it last year

> but my libido never recovered. I had premature ejaculation after,

> but when I took SP in January it ruined everything because I

> accidentally was taking too high of a dosage. My Paxil WD success

> story has been ruined because of an oversight on my part. I'm

> suffering from genital numbness, zero libido, no morning/random

> erections, muscle wastage, loss of facial fat, premature aging, etc.

>

> I'm very leery about going on Prozac, it seems like it will only

> worsen the situation but the depression and anxiety I'm suffering

> from, which was induced by SP, is unbearable and I cannot function

at

> work and school. Sleep is terrible. I can only pretend everything

> is OK with my gf for so long.... I can't believe 9 days of SP has

> f***ed up my life possibly forever. I think 6 years of Paxil

lowered

> my testosterone as well as messed with other parts of my endocrine

> system which made me more susceptible to what happened to me. I

just

> want to go back to normal but it's been over 4 months with very

> little improvement. I lost my erection WITH Viagra last weekend

> while having sex and it was the most devastating thing I've ever

> encountered. I tried to hold back tears but couldn't, but my gf

was

> understanding about it. Still, this has been the worst 4 months of

> my entire life and it's all my fault since I self-induced it.

>

[Guest guest]

How many months after you quit Paxil did the genital numbness. My

severe genital numbness came a couple of weeks I stopped effexor. Do

your glans feel numbs like they feel like normal skin?

> >

> > I'm still suffering from sexual/physical/mental side effects

from

> my

> > brief Saw Palmetto experience and I feel like I'm going insane.

> I'm

> > on Wellbutrin 300 XL and now my psych wants me to go on Prozac.

As

> > stated before, I was on Paxil for 6 years and the only bad

sexual

> > side effect was lack of sex drive (other sides were constant

> fatigue,

> > small weigh gain, etc)... I successfully withdrew from it last

year

> > but my libido never recovered. I had premature ejaculation

after,

> > but when I took SP in January it ruined everything because I

> > accidentally was taking too high of a dosage. My Paxil WD

success

> > story has been ruined because of an oversight on my part. I'm

> > suffering from genital numbness, zero libido, no morning/random

> > erections, muscle wastage, loss of facial fat, premature aging,

etc.

> >

> > I'm very leery about going on Prozac, it seems like it will only

> > worsen the situation but the depression and anxiety I'm

suffering

> > from, which was induced by SP, is unbearable and I cannot

function

> at

> > work and school. Sleep is terrible. I can only pretend

everything

> > is OK with my gf for so long.... I can't believe 9 days of SP

has

> > f***ed up my life possibly forever. I think 6 years of Paxil

> lowered

> > my testosterone as well as messed with other parts of my

endocrine

> > system which made me more susceptible to what happened to me. I

> just

> > want to go back to normal but it's been over 4 months with very

> > little improvement. I lost my erection WITH Viagra last weekend

> > while having sex and it was the most devastating thing I've ever

> > encountered. I tried to hold back tears but couldn't, but my gf

> was

> > understanding about it. Still, this has been the worst 4 months

of

> > my entire life and it's all my fault since I self-induced it.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Drugs like Paxil and Prozac have a long half life. I believe it is

the 5ht2c receptors which causes lack of sensitivity.

> > >

> > > I'm still suffering from sexual/physical/mental side effects

> from

> > my

> > > brief Saw Palmetto experience and I feel like I'm going

insane.

> > I'm

> > > on Wellbutrin 300 XL and now my psych wants me to go on

Prozac.

> As

> > > stated before, I was on Paxil for 6 years and the only bad

> sexual

> > > side effect was lack of sex drive (other sides were constant

> > fatigue,

> > > small weigh gain, etc)... I successfully withdrew from it last

> year

> > > but my libido never recovered. I had premature ejaculation

> after,

> > > but when I took SP in January it ruined everything because I

> > > accidentally was taking too high of a dosage. My Paxil WD

> success

> > > story has been ruined because of an oversight on my part. I'm

> > > suffering from genital numbness, zero libido, no morning/random

> > > erections, muscle wastage, loss of facial fat, premature aging,

> etc.

> > >

> > > I'm very leery about going on Prozac, it seems like it will

only

> > > worsen the situation but the depression and anxiety I'm

> suffering

> > > from, which was induced by SP, is unbearable and I cannot

> function

> > at

> > > work and school. Sleep is terrible. I can only pretend

> everything

> > > is OK with my gf for so long.... I can't believe 9 days of SP

> has

> > > f***ed up my life possibly forever. I think 6 years of Paxil

> > lowered

> > > my testosterone as well as messed with other parts of my

> endocrine

> > > system which made me more susceptible to what happened to me.

I

> > just

> > > want to go back to normal but it's been over 4 months with very

> > > little improvement. I lost my erection WITH Viagra last

weekend

> > > while having sex and it was the most devastating thing I've

ever

> > > encountered. I tried to hold back tears but couldn't, but my

gf

> > was

> > > understanding about it. Still, this has been the worst 4

months

> of

> > > my entire life and it's all my fault since I self-induced it.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Don't take the Prozac.

Keep hope. I know it is hard to believe, but your depression will lift. Seek

alternative ways to get better....don't take Prozac.

PS....Let you girlfriend see your tears.

--

http://naturalgal.wordpress.com/

A journey away from medication and into healthy eating

to stay sane.

Quoting wantmylifeback85 :

> I'm still suffering from sexual/physical/mental side effects from

> my

> brief Saw Palmetto experience and I feel like I'm going insane.

> I'm

> on Wellbutrin 300 XL and now my psych wants me to go on Prozac. As

>

> stated before, I was on Paxil for 6 years and the only bad sexual

> side effect was lack of sex drive (other sides were constant

> fatigue,

> small weigh gain, etc)... I successfully withdrew from it last year

>

> but my libido never recovered. I had premature ejaculation after,

>

> but when I took SP in January it ruined everything because I

> accidentally was taking too high of a dosage. My Paxil WD success

>

> story has been ruined because of an oversight on my part. I'm

> suffering from genital numbness, zero libido, no morning/random

> erections, muscle wastage, loss of facial fat, premature aging,

> etc.

>

> I'm very leery about going on Prozac, it seems like it will only

> worsen the situation but the depression and anxiety I'm suffering

> from, which was induced by SP, is unbearable and I cannot function

> at

> work and school. Sleep is terrible. I can only pretend everything

>

> is OK with my gf for so long.... I can't believe 9 days of SP has

> f***ed up my life possibly forever. I think 6 years of Paxil

> lowered

> my testosterone as well as messed with other parts of my endocrine

>

> system which made me more susceptible to what happened to me. I

> just

> want to go back to normal but it's been over 4 months with very

> little improvement. I lost my erection WITH Viagra last weekend

> while having sex and it was the most devastating thing I've ever

> encountered. I tried to hold back tears but couldn't, but my gf

> was

> understanding about it. Still, this has been the worst 4 months of

>

> my entire life and it's all my fault since I self-induced it.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks naturalgal. SSRIs are not the answer and my brain chemistry

is already messed up enough as it is after long term Paxil use and

whatever SP did (it inhibits 5AR Type 1 which is found in the brain

which really scares me)... I was fortunate enough to have recovered

from Paxil without little complication (it did indeed work wonders

for my Social Anxiety Disorder as well as some mild depression).

What's really depressing is that I should be celebrating as it's been

my one year anniversary since going Paxil free but I messed up my

entire body more than Paxil ever could in 9 days thanks to an OTC

supplement. It's negated what was a hard battle withdrawing from

Paxil last June and to have to go through two trying times involving

one's health within one year has been overwhelming to say the least.

To see one's physical and mental health deteriorate when no one

knows why has been incredibly frustrating. But yes, I'm coming to

the conclusion that ADs aren't helping my problem. I'm seeking

therapy with a new psychologist and wish I sought her sooner comapred

to my previous one... things could've been different I think.

>

> Don't take the Prozac.

>

> Keep hope. I know it is hard to believe, but your depression will

lift. Seek alternative ways to get better....don't take Prozac.

>

>

> PS....Let you girlfriend see your tears.

> --

> http://naturalgal.wordpress.com/

> A journey away from medication and into healthy eating

> to stay sane.

>

>

>

>

> Quoting wantmylifeback85 :

>

> > I'm still suffering from sexual/physical/mental side effects from

> > my

> > brief Saw Palmetto experience and I feel like I'm going insane.

> > I'm

> > on Wellbutrin 300 XL and now my psych wants me to go on Prozac.

As

> >

> > stated before, I was on Paxil for 6 years and the only bad sexual

> > side effect was lack of sex drive (other sides were constant

> > fatigue,

> > small weigh gain, etc)... I successfully withdrew from it last

year

> >

> > but my libido never recovered. I had premature ejaculation after,

> >

> > but when I took SP in January it ruined everything because I

> > accidentally was taking too high of a dosage. My Paxil WD success

> >

> > story has been ruined because of an oversight on my part. I'm

> > suffering from genital numbness, zero libido, no morning/random

> > erections, muscle wastage, loss of facial fat, premature aging,

> > etc.

> >

> > I'm very leery about going on Prozac, it seems like it will only

> > worsen the situation but the depression and anxiety I'm suffering

> > from, which was induced by SP, is unbearable and I cannot function

> > at

> > work and school. Sleep is terrible. I can only pretend

everything

> >

> > is OK with my gf for so long.... I can't believe 9 days of SP has

> > f***ed up my life possibly forever. I think 6 years of Paxil

> > lowered

> > my testosterone as well as messed with other parts of my endocrine

> >

> > system which made me more susceptible to what happened to me. I

> > just

> > want to go back to normal but it's been over 4 months with very

> > little improvement. I lost my erection WITH Viagra last weekend

> > while having sex and it was the most devastating thing I've ever

> > encountered. I tried to hold back tears but couldn't, but my gf

> > was

> > understanding about it. Still, this has been the worst 4 months

of

> >

> > my entire life and it's all my fault since I self-induced it.

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes but I had no problems with genital sensitivity on and off Paxil.

It was when I quit Saw Palmetto that my genitals went numb, not to

mention the penile tissue has changed (which is really, really

depressing).

> > > >

> > > > I'm still suffering from sexual/physical/mental side effects

> > from

> > > my

> > > > brief Saw Palmetto experience and I feel like I'm going

> insane.

> > > I'm

> > > > on Wellbutrin 300 XL and now my psych wants me to go on

> Prozac.

> > As

> > > > stated before, I was on Paxil for 6 years and the only bad

> > sexual

> > > > side effect was lack of sex drive (other sides were constant

> > > fatigue,

> > > > small weigh gain, etc)... I successfully withdrew from it

last

> > year

> > > > but my libido never recovered. I had premature ejaculation

> > after,

> > > > but when I took SP in January it ruined everything because I

> > > > accidentally was taking too high of a dosage. My Paxil WD

> > success

> > > > story has been ruined because of an oversight on my part.

I'm

> > > > suffering from genital numbness, zero libido, no

morning/random

> > > > erections, muscle wastage, loss of facial fat, premature

aging,

> > etc.

> > > >

> > > > I'm very leery about going on Prozac, it seems like it will

> only

> > > > worsen the situation but the depression and anxiety I'm

> > suffering

> > > > from, which was induced by SP, is unbearable and I cannot

> > function

> > > at

> > > > work and school. Sleep is terrible. I can only pretend

> > everything

> > > > is OK with my gf for so long.... I can't believe 9 days of SP

> > has

> > > > f***ed up my life possibly forever. I think 6 years of Paxil

> > > lowered

> > > > my testosterone as well as messed with other parts of my

> > endocrine

> > > > system which made me more susceptible to what happened to

me.

> I

> > > just

> > > > want to go back to normal but it's been over 4 months with

very

> > > > little improvement. I lost my erection WITH Viagra last

> weekend

> > > > while having sex and it was the most devastating thing I've

> ever

> > > > encountered. I tried to hold back tears but couldn't, but my

> gf

> > > was

> > > > understanding about it. Still, this has been the worst 4

> months

> > of

> > > > my entire life and it's all my fault since I self-induced it.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The genital numbness was caused by SP, NOT Paxil. My entire area

went numb after I stopped Saw Palmetto. Yes, it feels like I'm

touching my arm or anywhere else on my body. My genitals used to be

super-sensitive (to the point where it caused premature ejaculation

post-Paxil), so going from super sensitive to zero sensitivity

utterly sucks. Manual stimulation is a lot harder and is just not

pleasurable. It's a lot harder to get it up by myself due to the

lack of sensitivity.

> > >

> > > I'm still suffering from sexual/physical/mental side effects

> from

> > my

> > > brief Saw Palmetto experience and I feel like I'm going

insane.

> > I'm

> > > on Wellbutrin 300 XL and now my psych wants me to go on

Prozac.

> As

> > > stated before, I was on Paxil for 6 years and the only bad

> sexual

> > > side effect was lack of sex drive (other sides were constant

> > fatigue,

> > > small weigh gain, etc)... I successfully withdrew from it last

> year

> > > but my libido never recovered. I had premature ejaculation

> after,

> > > but when I took SP in January it ruined everything because I

> > > accidentally was taking too high of a dosage. My Paxil WD

> success

> > > story has been ruined because of an oversight on my part. I'm

> > > suffering from genital numbness, zero libido, no morning/random

> > > erections, muscle wastage, loss of facial fat, premature aging,

> etc.

> > >

> > > I'm very leery about going on Prozac, it seems like it will

only

> > > worsen the situation but the depression and anxiety I'm

> suffering

> > > from, which was induced by SP, is unbearable and I cannot

> function

> > at

> > > work and school. Sleep is terrible. I can only pretend

> everything

> > > is OK with my gf for so long.... I can't believe 9 days of SP

> has

> > > f***ed up my life possibly forever. I think 6 years of Paxil

> > lowered

> > > my testosterone as well as messed with other parts of my

> endocrine

> > > system which made me more susceptible to what happened to me.

I

> > just

> > > want to go back to normal but it's been over 4 months with very

> > > little improvement. I lost my erection WITH Viagra last

weekend

> > > while having sex and it was the most devastating thing I've

ever

> > > encountered. I tried to hold back tears but couldn't, but my

gf

> > was

> > > understanding about it. Still, this has been the worst 4

months

> of

> > > my entire life and it's all my fault since I self-induced it.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Vorman -

I'm definitely suffering from depression. I was prior to this SP

episode, but that was about a relationship as well as subtle hair

loss. This depression, after what SP did to me, is a whole other

story - it feels like I'm disconnected from the world and none of my

hobbies/interests really excite me anymore. Plus I'm entirely

depressed about all the lingering sexual/physical/mental sides that

SP brought upon me after I quit. Even when I was depressed before

SP, I still had motivation to go to work, gym, class, be passionate

about music, could learn easy, etc. Now it's like I could care less

and I just feel dumb. Being around my gf really calms me down and

turns me into the normal person I once was, she's my real anti-

depressant... I just beat myself up inside because I feel like I

ruined things because of a simple mistake during the time we were

apart.

You are right about the Wellbutrin - I believe it was making things

worse. I stopped last Friday and noticed how much it was ramping up

my anxiety. I would have huge crying spells and violent outbursts

when alone and this has diminished since stopping Wellbutrin. As of

now I've stopped all meds except for Klonopin as needed (when I have

a crying episode). My psych was prescribing Klonopin at morning and

at night but after seeing how addictive Benzos are and how their

effects are diminished if routintely used, I feel it's best to use it

only when I need to so it's more effective (and believe me it does

help even though I'm not too excited about using it). It's just

depressing that all of this could've been avoided but I can't dwell

on the past. It's just remarkable that I had such an absurd reaction

to SP - I feel like I ruined what was a perfect body for life and

it's the worst feeling in the world.

I've read about Reservatol - there's a product called Sustain Alpha

which is a transdermal spray that boosts Testosterone without

increasing Estrogens which contains Reservatol. I'm considering

trying it out but waiting until August (six month mark after

quitting) before using a supplement. A few people on the

PropeciaHelp forum have used it, some with success while some noticed

no difference.

These results are from a few months ago:

DHT 43 (25-75 ng/dL) Blood

DHT 6.6 (0-13 ug) 24Hr Urine

I need to get another bloodtest and see where my levels are at since

I haven't had work done since March.

I haven't heard of low-dose Cialis treatment. What dosage would I

use, how would I ask my doc for it, etc? I don't have any morning

erections which points to low Free T levels. I'll get nocturnals

here and there but spontaneous erections are still nowhere to be

found and the penile tissue changes are still present. I believe

I've lost some size/girth as well and if you're a guy, well, there's

nothing more depressing than that.

I was able to have sex Sunday night successfully without the aid of

Viagra which significantly boosted my self-confidence and lowered my

depression. Even had time to put a condom on without losing it which

was good. Do you know the half-life of Wellbutrin by any chance? It

definitely caused racing thoughts and I still get them in the

mornings.

> >

> > I'm still suffering from sexual/physical/mental side effects from

> my

> > brief Saw Palmetto experience and I feel like I'm going insane.

> I'm

> > on Wellbutrin 300 XL and now my psych wants me to go on Prozac.

As

> > stated before, I was on Paxil for 6 years and the only bad sexual

> > side effect was lack of sex drive (other sides were constant

> fatigue,

> > small weigh gain, etc)... I successfully withdrew from it last

year

> > but my libido never recovered. I had premature ejaculation

after,

> > but when I took SP in January it ruined everything because I

> > accidentally was taking too high of a dosage. My Paxil WD

success

> > story has been ruined because of an oversight on my part. I'm

> > suffering from genital numbness, zero libido, no morning/random

> > erections, muscle wastage, loss of facial fat, premature aging,

etc.

> >

> > I'm very leery about going on Prozac, it seems like it will only

> > worsen the situation but the depression and anxiety I'm suffering

> > from, which was induced by SP, is unbearable and I cannot

function

> at

> > work and school. Sleep is terrible. I can only pretend

everything

> > is OK with my gf for so long.... I can't believe 9 days of SP has

> > f***ed up my life possibly forever. I think 6 years of Paxil

> lowered

> > my testosterone as well as messed with other parts of my

endocrine

> > system which made me more susceptible to what happened to me. I

> just

> > want to go back to normal but it's been over 4 months with very

> > little improvement. I lost my erection WITH Viagra last weekend

> > while having sex and it was the most devastating thing I've ever

> > encountered. I tried to hold back tears but couldn't, but my gf

> was

> > understanding about it. Still, this has been the worst 4 months

of

> > my entire life and it's all my fault since I self-induced it.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The question I was asking was how long after you quit Paxil did the

genital numbness come? For me the genital numbness (severe) occured

2-3 weeks after I quit the effexor.

> > > >

> > > > I'm still suffering from sexual/physical/mental side effects

> > from

> > > my

> > > > brief Saw Palmetto experience and I feel like I'm going

> insane.

> > > I'm

> > > > on Wellbutrin 300 XL and now my psych wants me to go on

> Prozac.

> > As

> > > > stated before, I was on Paxil for 6 years and the only bad

> > sexual

> > > > side effect was lack of sex drive (other sides were constant

> > > fatigue,

> > > > small weigh gain, etc)... I successfully withdrew from it

last

> > year

> > > > but my libido never recovered. I had premature ejaculation

> > after,

> > > > but when I took SP in January it ruined everything because I

> > > > accidentally was taking too high of a dosage. My Paxil WD

> > success

> > > > story has been ruined because of an oversight on my part.

I'm

> > > > suffering from genital numbness, zero libido, no

morning/random

> > > > erections, muscle wastage, loss of facial fat, premature

aging,

> > etc.

> > > >

> > > > I'm very leery about going on Prozac, it seems like it will

> only

> > > > worsen the situation but the depression and anxiety I'm

> > suffering

> > > > from, which was induced by SP, is unbearable and I cannot

> > function

> > > at

> > > > work and school. Sleep is terrible. I can only pretend

> > everything

> > > > is OK with my gf for so long.... I can't believe 9 days of

SP

> > has

> > > > f***ed up my life possibly forever. I think 6 years of

Paxil

> > > lowered

> > > > my testosterone as well as messed with other parts of my

> > endocrine

> > > > system which made me more susceptible to what happened to

me.

> I

> > > just

> > > > want to go back to normal but it's been over 4 months with

very

> > > > little improvement. I lost my erection WITH Viagra last

> weekend

> > > > while having sex and it was the most devastating thing I've

> ever

> > > > encountered. I tried to hold back tears but couldn't, but

my

> gf

> > > was

> > > > understanding about it. Still, this has been the worst 4

> months

> > of

> > > > my entire life and it's all my fault since I self-induced it.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I stopped Paxil a year ago (last June). Had no problems until SP.

The numbness didn't present itself until mid-February, a few days

after I stopped Saw Palmetto.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm still suffering from sexual/physical/mental side

effects

> > > from

> > > > my

> > > > > brief Saw Palmetto experience and I feel like I'm going

> > insane.

> > > > I'm

> > > > > on Wellbutrin 300 XL and now my psych wants me to go on

> > Prozac.

> > > As

> > > > > stated before, I was on Paxil for 6 years and the only bad

> > > sexual

> > > > > side effect was lack of sex drive (other sides were

constant

> > > > fatigue,

> > > > > small weigh gain, etc)... I successfully withdrew from it

> last

> > > year

> > > > > but my libido never recovered. I had premature ejaculation

> > > after,

> > > > > but when I took SP in January it ruined everything because

I

> > > > > accidentally was taking too high of a dosage. My Paxil WD

> > > success

> > > > > story has been ruined because of an oversight on my part.

> I'm

> > > > > suffering from genital numbness, zero libido, no

> morning/random

> > > > > erections, muscle wastage, loss of facial fat, premature

> aging,

> > > etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm very leery about going on Prozac, it seems like it will

> > only

> > > > > worsen the situation but the depression and anxiety I'm

> > > suffering

> > > > > from, which was induced by SP, is unbearable and I cannot

> > > function

> > > > at

> > > > > work and school. Sleep is terrible. I can only pretend

> > > everything

> > > > > is OK with my gf for so long.... I can't believe 9 days of

> SP

> > > has

> > > > > f***ed up my life possibly forever. I think 6 years of

> Paxil

> > > > lowered

> > > > > my testosterone as well as messed with other parts of my

> > > endocrine

> > > > > system which made me more susceptible to what happened to

> me.

> > I

> > > > just

> > > > > want to go back to normal but it's been over 4 months with

> very

> > > > > little improvement. I lost my erection WITH Viagra last

> > weekend

> > > > > while having sex and it was the most devastating thing I've

> > ever

> > > > > encountered. I tried to hold back tears but couldn't, but

> my

> > gf

> > > > was

> > > > > understanding about it. Still, this has been the worst 4

> > months

> > > of

> > > > > my entire life and it's all my fault since I self-induced

it.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm curious if the week I was on Zoloft a few weeks after everything

crashed after stopping SP may have made things worse (or had no

effect). I was only on it for 7 days but did not notice any change

(was on 50mg). I'm also suspicious if my long-term Paxil use may

have attributed to all of this as I had lowish testosterone post-

Paxil before taking Saw Palmetto (was in the 420s), but I didn't have

PSSD symptoms except lowered libido.

Genitals are still numb, no morning/spontaneous erections, tissue

changes are still present, still feel mentally detached, face is

still not as oily as it used to be. I get so mad at myself because I

overcame the hell of Paxil withdrawal and practically made a full

recovery (except libido which never recovered, but no other sexual

issues). Basically it was the perfect storm as:

1) Was off of Paxil for six months (Jan 08) - anxiety/depression were

heightened due having these feelings supressed for over 6 years, semi-

relapse (anxious from hair loss, depressed about breakup of gf)

2) Was prescribed Zoloft after my therapist recommended ADs but I

avoided due to Paxil hell - did not fill script

3) Took SP to decrease anxiety about hair loss since I was doing

something about it (late Jan 08)

4) Stopped SP after 9 days due to testicle pain (early Feb 08)

5) Week later body crashes, everything goes to hell

6) Take Zoloft for a week (late Feb) to curb intense

depression/anxiety - does not help

7) Take Wellbutrin (March - June) but it only makes

depression/anxiety worse - does not help

I'm now SSRI-free and remain to stay that way - I wanted to never

take SSRIs again after Paxil but my SP mistake induced a horrific

depression/anxiety as well as all the sexual/physical side effects.

Wellbutrin amplified the depression/anxiety and made the situation

worse.

Energy levels are somewhat better, sleep is slowly getting better,

face is starting to look more normal/fill out. Had sex last weekend

without Viagra but erections are lacking girth, feels like I've lost

size. Still lose an erection quickly.

I don't know where to go from here but I hate being a prisoner in my

own body after a simple mistake of using an OTC supplement. It's

been 4.5 months since stopping Saw Palmetto.