Re: interesting article regarding ssri withdrawal recovery

[Guest guest]

,

I saw on the link you posted that it could take up to 18 months for things to

balance out,

but where do you get your 3-year figure from?

Thanks-

Joe

>

> hello everyone

>

> i have recently been taking lots of herbal supplements after reading

> that many people on this forum are doing so, however i found this

> article today. it is very interesting, gave me some hope, and seems to

> confirm what another member of this forum hypothesised and that is

> that for most people recovery from our problem probably takes at least

> 18 months to 3 years. the main premise of the article is that it

> suggests that we have developed some kind of serotonin imbalance as a

> result of taking ssri's and that it takes a long time for our brains to

> return to normality. of main interest, however, is that the writer

> recommends not taking any supplements, herbal or otherwise, as these

> may actually hinder recovery. the link is:

>

> http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/reaction.htm

>

> regards

>

> frank

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Yes, that definitely makes sense. I was just wondering because that article

didn't say there

was anything past the 3-18 month mark, although as you said they way they stated

it

definitely makes it seem like there is a " second " stage. Would have been nice if

they

expanded on that.

I am curious, as I am at about 20 months myself, and my libido which tends to

cycle from

low to mid-range, is the lowest it has ever been right now. And it is now

coupled with

some erectile dysfunction, which is very concerning to me because since being

off the

meds I haven't really had a problem with erections (although they were much less

frequent).

So, here's my plan. As of yesterday I am not going to masturbate unless I really

feel the

desire to. I was doing it 1-2 times a day, mainly as a way to " prove " to myself

I could still

function. But as we all know, masturbating lowers your libido. And I am going to

start

exercising more, and keeping a watch on what I eat, and making sure to get

enough sleep.

These seem like common-sense things, and are recommended in that article you

linked

to. I have been taking AAKG suppliments, and haven't decided if I will continue

those or

not.

People seem to have very hit-and-miss results with supplements, other

medications, etc.

There is definitely no clear-cut path to getting over this, although the good

news is that

many people seem to just get better on their own after . As is evidenced, I

suspect, by the

fact that many members aren't active on here anymore.

I also think that positive thinking really helps. Particularly for someone like

myself, who

was on cymbalta for a relatively short period of time, 10 months. I hope that

means I don't

have as much damage as someone who was on something with harsher side effects

for

years and years. But I am no doctor.

Joe

> >

> > hello everyone

> >

> > i have recently been taking lots of herbal supplements after reading

> > that many people on this forum are doing so, however i found this

> > article today. it is very interesting, gave me some hope, and seems to

> > confirm what another member of this forum hypothesised and that is

> > that for most people recovery from our problem probably takes at least

> > 18 months to 3 years. the main premise of the article is that it

> > suggests that we have developed some kind of serotonin imbalance as a

> > result of taking ssri's and that it takes a long time for our brains to

> > return to normality. of main interest, however, is that the writer

> > recommends not taking any supplements, herbal or otherwise, as these

> > may actually hinder recovery. the link is:

> >

> > http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/reaction.htm

> >

> > regards

> >

> > frank

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I'm going on 7 years. I have had pssd since I was 16 and haven't

recovered at all.

[Guest guest]

What was the post of posting this? Can you give us any context, your symptoms,

what you've

done to try and improve? What medication you were on?

I don't mean to be rude, but let's try to have a hopeful tone around here and

help each other

out. Not bring everyone down.

>

> I'm going on 7 years. I have had pssd since I was 16 and haven't

> recovered at all.

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I'm going on 7 years. I have had pssd since I was 16 and haven't

> > recovered at all.

> >

>

Sure, I'll elaborate. I have tried fish oil, ginko biloba, l-

tyrosine at 500, and l-arginine at 500, and a multi-vitamin. So far,

nothing. I am suffering from genital anesthesia, and it's been 7

years(good years) this august. I was on wellbutrin a while back and

I'm gonna try it again along with addreall.

My last resort is to go back on zoloft, cause I am also emotionally

blunt since quiting the medication so many years ago.

[Guest guest]

Nice website. No disrespect. But who is Charly Groenendijk? What is

his education or professional experience in this field? And on what

evidence does he support his detailed and firm statements? Just curious.

> --- In SSRIsex , " thouroughly_decent_bloke "

<frankrweston@>

> > http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/reaction.htm

[Guest guest]

hello

did a bit of research and found out that he is a 'prozac survivor'.

he doesn't mention pssd in that article but he obviously had a rough

time coming off the drug and with residual effects lasting a long

time. the fact that he now seems to have dedicated a big part of his

life to helping others is a great testamement to the man. he founded

the website that i found that article on:

www.antidepressantsfacts.com

and has appeared as a guest speaker on a radio show in the states:

www.bigmediausa.com/category.asp?cid=334

his views are obviously taken seriously by some, if only for what he

has been through and the subsequent research that he has done

following this. if you look at his website he has written many

articles about ssri's and he must feel pretty passionately about it

all as the website is so extensive and well maintained.

frank

>

> Nice website. No disrespect. But who is Charly Groenendijk? What is

> his education or professional experience in this field? And on what

> evidence does he support his detailed and firm statements? Just

curious.

>

> > --- In SSRIsex , " thouroughly_decent_bloke "

> <frankrweston@>

>

> > > http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/reaction.htm

>

[Guest guest]

Can I ask how long you took the fish oil and tyrosine for ? And at

what daily dosages ? Thanks.

Instead of going back on the SSRI which caused you PSSD, why not

consider giving 5-HTP a try which is the safe alternative to SSRIs ?

http://www.smart-publications.com/depression/5htp.php

> > >

> > > I'm going on 7 years. I have had pssd since I was 16 and haven't

> > > recovered at all.

> > >

> >

>

> Sure, I'll elaborate. I have tried fish oil, ginko biloba, l-

> tyrosine at 500, and l-arginine at 500, and a multi-vitamin. So

far,

> nothing. I am suffering from genital anesthesia, and it's been 7

> years(good years) this august. I was on wellbutrin a while back and

> I'm gonna try it again along with addreall.

>

>

> My last resort is to go back on zoloft, cause I am also emotionally

> blunt since quiting the medication so many years ago.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks . Can anybody please send an email to Charly Groenendijk

about PSSD? Than he may promote this PSSD support group on his website.

>

> hello

>

> did a bit of research

[Guest guest]

The article referred to is one of the thousands of unsubstantiated

claims about acid-base balance of food intake influencing subtle

health conditions. From everything I know about medicine and human

biology, it is nonsense. Sorry about that.

Regarding recovery from SSRI treatment - it seems there is a natural

population variation in recovery times. Many are fine a few weeks

after stopping. Some have problems for a few months more, in a

minority, these can last years and it remains possible that for a few

unlucky people there will be no recovery (unless we come up with an

effective remedy).

I am still waiting for epidemiological studies to quantify all this.

K.

> >

> > hello everyone

> >

> > i have recently been taking lots of herbal supplements after reading

> > that many people on this forum are doing so, however i found this

> > article today. it is very interesting, gave me some hope, and

seems to

> > confirm what another member of this forum hypothesised and that is

> > that for most people recovery from our problem probably takes at

least

> > 18 months to 3 years. the main premise of the article is that it

> > suggests that we have developed some kind of serotonin imbalance as a

> > result of taking ssri's and that it takes a long time for our

brains to

> > return to normality. of main interest, however, is that the writer

> > recommends not taking any supplements, herbal or otherwise, as these

> > may actually hinder recovery. the link is:

> >

> > http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/reaction.htm

> >

> > regards

> >

> > frank

> >

>