Re: Friday - Tracie Long Defining Shape

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hi donna -

things are going to take a little bit of time... but my

suggestion is to put the dog on a very short leash and attach

that leash to yourself (i assume that you are to be the alpha

boss of this dog).

keep the dog attached to you at all times (when you have to

work or leave the house without the dog, then put the dog in its

gated room or crate). continue with your normal activities...

the dog will have no choice but to follow you and remain at your

side at all times. you will always have complete control and

will always be the one in charge.

dogs do not want to be in charge, they feel secure in knowing

that you are the boss and will take care of everything. but if

noone is taking that role they will feel the need to express fear

and anxiety. the dog does not yet understand that you are a

loving yet firm mistress, and it is your job as a new owner to

teach it this fact of life. i expect that it will learn this

very quickly and you will have eventually trained it to watch you

closely for your every move. it is important to always maintain

the attitude and posture of authority with the dog. your dog

will love you for this.

you can always keep a baggie of cut up wieners in your pocket and

this will further enhance your appeal to your new dog. use the

pieces of wieners to positively reward your dog for recognizing

your alpha status.

also walk walk walk with your dog on a leash. alot of walking.

bring along your dh and your dd to serve as your 'pack' after

you are able to successfully walk with your dog yourself as its

mistress. walking keeps your dogs mind moving forward in a

healthy way and as you well know, physical activity will release

alot of mental stress. walking together will build a deep bond

with you and your dog. dh and dd will eventually be able to

completely control the dog too because you will be demanding this

of it, and it will do whatever you command.

personally i would strive to drain the dog physically. walking,

running, swimming, fetching. do it all day long if you have to,

but get it to a relaxed mental state which is brought on by

physical exertion. then you will have the best time to introduce

the dog to new people like your mom and to let your dh and dd try

to work with the dog.

i hope this helps a bit,

:*carolyn.

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Carolyn that is wonderful, thoughtful advice!  You are a good friend.It also reminds me of why I'm a cat person   =^..^=    they boss ME around lolHugs - Donna I know you must feel conflicted but I would give this puppers a chance and do as Carolyn said, he needs a routine and lotsa love it sounds like.  

Good luck!

 

hi donna -

things are going to take a little bit of time... but my

suggestion is to put the dog on a very short leash and attach

that leash to yourself (i assume that you are to be the alpha

boss of this dog).

keep the dog attached to you at all times (when you have to

work or leave the house without the dog, then put the dog in its

gated room or crate). continue with your normal activities...

the dog will have no choice but to follow you and remain at your

side at all times. you will always have complete control and

will always be the one in charge.

dogs do not want to be in charge, they feel secure in knowing

that you are the boss and will take care of everything. but if

noone is taking that role they will feel the need to express fear

and anxiety. the dog does not yet understand that you are a

loving yet firm mistress, and it is your job as a new owner to

teach it this fact of life. i expect that it will learn this

very quickly and you will have eventually trained it to watch you

closely for your every move. it is important to always maintain

the attitude and posture of authority with the dog. your dog

will love you for this.

you can always keep a baggie of cut up wieners in your pocket and

this will further enhance your appeal to your new dog. use the

pieces of wieners to positively reward your dog for recognizing

your alpha status.

also walk walk walk with your dog on a leash. alot of walking.

bring along your dh and your dd to serve as your 'pack' after

you are able to successfully walk with your dog yourself as its

mistress. walking keeps your dogs mind moving forward in a

healthy way and as you well know, physical activity will release

alot of mental stress. walking together will build a deep bond

with you and your dog. dh and dd will eventually be able to

completely control the dog too because you will be demanding this

of it, and it will do whatever you command.

personally i would strive to drain the dog physically. walking,

running, swimming, fetching. do it all day long if you have to,

but get it to a relaxed mental state which is brought on by

physical exertion. then you will have the best time to introduce

the dog to new people like your mom and to let your dh and dd try

to work with the dog.

i hope this helps a bit,

:*carolyn.

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I did this with one of my Norfolk Terriers several years ago - she had the " wanders " and would not stay around me in the house, etc.; she was fairly young so I didn't trust her very much in the house.  Now this dog will not leave my side - she lays under or by the piano when I practice, she lays on the ottoman when I'm sitting in the chair, she sleeps on the bed right up against me.  When I leave to go to work, she mostly lays by the back door waiting for me to come home.  She doesn't mind me 100% of the time - she is a terrier, after all - but tethering her to me for a week or so completely changed her attitude toward me.

 Carol

hi donna -

things are going to take a little bit of time...  but my

suggestion is to put the dog on a very short leash and attach

that leash to yourself (i assume that you are to be the alpha

boss of this dog).

 keep the dog attached to you at all times (when you have to

work or leave the house without the dog, then put the dog in its

gated room or crate).    continue with your normal activities...

the dog will have no choice but to follow you and remain at your

side at all times.   you will always have complete control and

will always be the one in charge.

 dogs do not want to be in charge, they feel secure in knowing

that you are the boss and will take care of everything.   but if

noone is taking that role they will feel the need to express fear

and anxiety.  the dog does not yet understand that you are a

loving yet firm mistress, and it is your job as a new owner to

teach it this fact of life.   i expect that it will learn this

very quickly and you will have eventually trained it to watch you

closely for your every move.   it is important to always maintain

the attitude and posture of authority with the dog.  your dog

will love you for this.

you can always keep a baggie of cut up wieners in your pocket and

this will further enhance your appeal to your new dog.   use the

pieces of wieners to positively reward your dog for recognizing

your alpha status.

also walk walk walk with your dog on a leash.   alot of walking.

  bring along your dh and your dd to serve as your 'pack' after

you are able to successfully walk with your dog yourself as its

mistress.  walking keeps your dogs mind moving forward in a

healthy way and as you well know, physical activity will release

alot of mental stress.   walking together will build a deep bond

with you and your dog.  dh and dd will eventually be able to

completely control the dog too because you will be demanding this

of it, and it will do whatever you command.

personally i would strive to drain the dog physically.   walking,

running, swimming, fetching.   do it all day long if you have to,

but get it to a relaxed mental state which is brought on by

physical exertion.  then you will have the best time to introduce

the dog to new people like your mom and to let your dh and dd try

to work with the dog.

i hope this helps a bit,

:*carolyn.

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It's a good technique for bonding the dog to you, but it doesn't address the

fear problem -- except to the extent that the dog will now look to you for

reassurance. Not an, " Oh, poor doggie.. " type of reassurance, but rather " Have

no fear -- I'm in charge here! "

Not being able to see the dog an the interactions, it's very hard to do

long-distance evaluations.

Donna, do go with your gut feeling once you've gotten enough input from the

trainers. When it comes down to it, it's your decision.

Indyrose

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> > hi donna -

> > things are going to take a little bit of time... but my

> > suggestion is to put the dog on a very short leash and attach

> > that leash to yourself (i assume that you are to be the alpha

> > boss of this dog).

> >

> > keep the dog attached to you at all times (when you have to

> > work or leave the house without the dog, then put the dog in its

> > gated room or crate). continue with your normal activities...

> > the dog will have no choice but to follow you and remain at your

> > side at all times. you will always have complete control and

> > will always be the one in charge.

> >

> > dogs do not want to be in charge, they feel secure in knowing

> > that you are the boss and will take care of everything. but if

> > noone is taking that role they will feel the need to express fear

> > and anxiety. the dog does not yet understand that you are a

> > loving yet firm mistress, and it is your job as a new owner to

> > teach it this fact of life. i expect that it will learn this

> > very quickly and you will have eventually trained it to watch you

> > closely for your every move. it is important to always maintain

> > the attitude and posture of authority with the dog. your dog

> > will love you for this.

> >

> > you can always keep a baggie of cut up wieners in your pocket and

> > this will further enhance your appeal to your new dog. use the

> > pieces of wieners to positively reward your dog for recognizing

> > your alpha status.

> >

> > also walk walk walk with your dog on a leash. alot of walking.

> > bring along your dh and your dd to serve as your 'pack' after

> > you are able to successfully walk with your dog yourself as its

> > mistress. walking keeps your dogs mind moving forward in a

> > healthy way and as you well know, physical activity will release

> > alot of mental stress. walking together will build a deep bond

> > with you and your dog. dh and dd will eventually be able to

> > completely control the dog too because you will be demanding this

> > of it, and it will do whatever you command.

> >

> > personally i would strive to drain the dog physically. walking,

> > running, swimming, fetching. do it all day long if you have to,

> > but get it to a relaxed mental state which is brought on by

> > physical exertion. then you will have the best time to introduce

> > the dog to new people like your mom and to let your dh and dd try

> > to work with the dog.

> >

> > i hope this helps a bit,

> > :*carolyn.

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

My heart is really heavy with this.

I can understand. I'm sorry its not going well. I can't really add anything else to what Carolyn has said. She gave some awesome advice.

Hang in there!!

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I think it was awesome advice too, IF you can put that kind of time and energy into it. I know I wouldn't be able to and that dog would have to be gone. Admittedly, I'm not a dog person, I like them but enjoy cats more, so I wouldn't even want to put that much energy into a dog anyway, but that takes a huge commitment. I'm surprised the rescue group gave this dog to you, to be honest. Not that you're not a great dog family but that the dog doesn't sound like it is great for a family. I know it is a huge, awful decision to make and my heart is so with you. You're certainly doing everything you can and I very much commend you for that. Go with your gut though, Donna. You seem to have excellent instincts and if it doesn't feel right, especially after a consultation with a trainer or a little more time with the dog, I'd give him back.

Re: Friday - Tracie Long Defining Shape

My heart is really heavy with this.

I can understand. I'm sorry its not going well. I can't really add anything else to what Carolyn has said. She gave some awesome advice.

Hang in there!!

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[Guest guest]

Donna,

I'm sorry you're having issues with your new dog. expressed the same

things I'm thinking. I know others have given excellent advice, too, about

trying to work with the dog for awhile. It just depends on how much you're

willing to put into it. I'm speaking as more of a cat person, too, but I would

be listening to my gut feelings and probably would not have the emotional

strength to put all the time and effort in to train the dog to be trustworthy

and friendly around others. I would see what the trainer says, and then go with

my gut feelings after that.

I wish you the best as you make this tough decision.

Ronda

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> I think it was awesome advice too, IF you can put that kind of time and energy

into it. I know I wouldn't be able to and that dog would have to be gone.

Admittedly, I'm not a dog person, I like them but enjoy cats more, so I wouldn't

even want to put that much energy into a dog anyway, but that takes a huge

commitment. I'm surprised the rescue group gave this dog to you, to be honest.

Not that you're not a great dog family but that the dog doesn't sound like it is

great for a family. I know it is a huge, awful decision to make and my heart is

so with you. You're certainly doing everything you can and I very much commend

you for that. Go with your gut though, Donna. You seem to have excellent

instincts and if it doesn't feel right, especially after a consultation with a

trainer or a little more time with the dog, I'd give him back.

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> In a message dated 6/29/2012 12:37:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

donna112520@... writes:

> My heart is really heavy with this.

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> I can understand. I'm sorry its not going well. I can't really add

anything else to what Carolyn has said. She gave some awesome advice.

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> Hang in there!!

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Thanks! And thanks to everyone else. I do feel the dog has potential to be a good companion - we have the trainer scheduled for next Monday. I will see what she says and hopefully we can work through this and keep her - in spite of all my turmoil last week the big dope is growing on me!Donna

Subject: Re: Friday - Tracie Long Defining ShapeTo: exercisevideos Date: Saturday, June 30, 2012, 6:25 PM

Donna,I'm sorry you're having issues with your new dog. expressed the same things I'm thinking. I know others have given excellent advice, too, about trying to work with the dog for awhile. It just depends on how much you're willing to put into it. I'm speaking as more of a cat person, too, but I would be listening to my gut feelings and probably would not have the emotional strength to put all the time and effort in to train the dog to be trustworthy and friendly around others. I would see what the trainer says, and then go with my gut feelings after that.I wish you the best as you make this tough decision.Ronda>> I think it was awesome advice too,

IF you can put that kind of time and energy into it. I know I wouldn't be able to and that dog would have to be gone. Admittedly, I'm not a dog person, I like them but enjoy cats more, so I wouldn't even want to put that much energy into a dog anyway, but that takes a huge commitment. I'm surprised the rescue group gave this dog to you, to be honest. Not that you're not a great dog family but that the dog doesn't sound like it is great for a family. I know it is a huge, awful decision to make and my heart is so with you. You're certainly doing everything you can and I very much commend you for that. Go with your gut though, Donna. You seem to have excellent instincts and if it doesn't feel right, especially after a consultation with a trainer or a little more time with the dog, I'd give him back.> > > > Re: Friday - Tracie Long Defining Shape> > > > > > > > My heart is really heavy with this.> > I can understand. I'm sorry its not going well. I can't really add anything else to what Carolyn has said. She gave some awesome advice. > > Hang in there!! > > `* ¸*´> ¸.•´ ¸.•*¨)¸.•*¨)> (¸.•´(¸.• (¸.•´¸¸.•¨¯`•.¸¸>

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Hi - Thanks, Carolyn - this is helpful. I think she has already bonded to us and overall she is not aggressive or fearful around us- and I did come to terms w/ everything over the weekend and I do want to try ot work this out w/ her. We have the trainer coming in next Monday - she'll do an assessment and help us figure out a game plan. She is food motivated, so I think that will help. Shenan wasn't, and that made things more difficult. I think initially I wasn't expecting this to be a challenge - and had a hard time wrapping my head around it all. I do find that exercising her a lot is helping - lots and lots of fetch.

She is leaving the rabbit alone - I still wouldn't trust them together unsupervised, but I didn't trust Shenan to be around the rabbit unsupervised, either. So, I think she does want to obey us and I don't think she is an Alpha personality -I have also already taught her to sit and wait for her food to be put down and considering how much this dog loves to eat, I think that is an accomplishment.

Thanks everyone - my initial freak out seems to be passed.

Donna

Subject: Re: Friday - Tracie Long Defining ShapeTo: exercisevideos Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 1:27 PM

hi donna -things are going to take a little bit of time... but my suggestion is to put the dog on a very short leash and attach that leash to yourself (i assume that you are to be the alpha boss of this dog).keep the dog attached to you at all times (when you have to work or leave the house without the dog, then put the dog in its gated room or crate). continue with your normal activities... the dog will have no choice but to follow you and remain at your side at all times. you will always have complete control and will always be the one in charge.dogs do not want to be in charge, they feel secure in knowing that you are the boss and will take care of everything. but if noone is taking that role they will feel the need to express fear and anxiety. the dog does not yet understand that you are a loving yet firm mistress, and it is your job as a new owner to teach it this fact of

life. i expect that it will learn this very quickly and you will have eventually trained it to watch you closely for your every move. it is important to always maintain the attitude and posture of authority with the dog. your dog will love you for this.you can always keep a baggie of cut up wieners in your pocket and this will further enhance your appeal to your new dog. use the pieces of wieners to positively reward your dog for recognizing your alpha status.also walk walk walk with your dog on a leash. alot of walking. bring along your dh and your dd to serve as your 'pack' after you are able to successfully walk with your dog yourself as its mistress. walking keeps your dogs mind moving forward in a healthy way and as you well know, physical activity will release alot of mental stress. walking together will build a deep bond with you and your dog. dh and dd will eventually be able to

completely control the dog too because you will be demanding this of it, and it will do whatever you command.personally i would strive to drain the dog physically. walking, running, swimming, fetching. do it all day long if you have to, but get it to a relaxed mental state which is brought on by physical exertion. then you will have the best time to introduce the dog to new people like your mom and to let your dh and dd try to work with the dog.i hope this helps a bit,:*carolyn.

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She is leaving the rabbit alone - I still wouldn't trust them together unsupervised, but I didn't trust Shenan to be around the rabbit unsupervised, either

The rabbit is new to her just like our birds were to Lily when we got her. She even got up on her hind legs and tried to get one of them and knocked their play gym down and it hit or TV and busted. Now, she totally ignores them, doesn't give them a second thought. It takes time getting use to ANYTHING. And of course who knows how many homes this poor thing has had. She's probably really confused. It sounds like you're doing all the right things for her.

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Thanks, ! I am feeling a lot better about everything.

Donna

Subject: Re: Friday - Tracie Long Defining ShapeTo: exercisevideos Date: Monday, July 2, 2012, 11:38 AM

She is leaving the rabbit alone - I still wouldn't trust them together unsupervised, but I didn't trust Shenan to be around the rabbit unsupervised, either

The rabbit is new to her just like our birds were to Lily when we got her. She even got up on her hind legs and tried to get one of them and knocked their play gym down and it hit or TV and busted. Now, she totally ignores them, doesn't give them a second thought. It takes time getting use to ANYTHING. And of course who knows how many homes this poor thing has had. She's probably really confused. It sounds like you're doing all the right things for her.

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