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Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 that sounds like some weired shit! but i liked the idea of creating a sort of charity fund that people can donate money to, in an attempt to legitamise and research the phenomena! what do you think about a similar thing being set up to research pssd? i would diffidently set up a direct debit and donate a little each month, would any one else? > > http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14983 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Here's a forum dealing with it if anyone is looking for more info: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=693 Shay Vornan-19 (moderator) wrote: > > http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14983 > <http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14983> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Problems such as high cortisol also reduce neuroplasticity. This means it is harder for neurons to repair themselves, synapses to repair etc. The drug stablon actually lowers cortisol levels. Why don't you check with your doctor about getting rid of the parasites? Surley there is a good medicine that can get rid of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 What kinds of diet changes have you been following? The one i just started is basically only meat, fish, veggies, and whole grains and excludes all sources of sugar, e.g. bread/baked goods, vinegar, alcohol/fermented foods, dairy, fruit/fruit juice. Re: Re: Morgellon's disease I've been doing a a bunch of cleansing and diet changes over the last three months, and have done one parasite cleanse using a homeopathic product called ParaGone. My cortisol tests showed a really strange curve, with my morning level being sky high, and then drifting down to nothing by night. Took me forever to figure out what it meant, but finally found one source via the book The Mood Cure that said that this is an indication that parasites are indeed present. This is because they are most active while you sleep, which means high cortisol upon waking up, when taking the first saliva sample. There seems to be two methods of getting rid of parasites: the antiobotic/drug route, and the herb route. Most people on curezone.com preach the herb route. The three key ingredients are wormwood, black walnut hull, and clove. There are usually more that assist, especially fiber and stuff to help rinse out your colon. Now most people avoid the antiobiotics because they seem to kill everything in their path, including good bacteria, and in the long run lower your immunity. The people at curezone also use "zappers" in conjunction with the herbs. It's a device that sends an electric current into you. From what I have read, people seem seem to benefit from them. Their explanation as to why it actually works seems stupid and too simple, but I read one scientific journal that demonstrated that they do work, and gave a better explanation as to how this could be (had to do with allowing the herbs to penetrate deeper into cells or something). After doing research on parasites and all, it seems that a lot of diseases and illnesses are linked to parasites, but doctors don't even mention them most of the time. They definitely are linked to chronic fatigue syndrome. I'll be ordering a zapper in the coming months and doing another round using a cleaner called "humaworm," because most of the people at curezone seem to have good results with it. Shay brettszabo1 wrote: > > Haven't posted here in a long time, but I thought this Morgellon's > article was interesting. Of course, a lot of parallels between those > sufferers and us as far as not being taken seriously. But then, the > Morgellon's group seems to have gotten their shit together, and I > second the notion that we could take some inspiration from them and > set up some more financial organization, maybe get more people in > academia to take notice. I know that's been mentioned many times here > before, but this article makes it seem more plausible. > > On a different note, I was intrigued by the idea of Morgellon's being > caused by pathogens, e.g. bacteria. I am seeing a nutritionist right > now and they tested me for intestinal bacteria and parasites and I had > three different ones for which I took antibiotics for 2 weeks. Since > then, my fatigue symptoms have lightened somewhat. Now I am supposed > to follow a yeast elimination diet, as yeast is often implicated by > alt medicine as a cause of chronic problems, sometimes very > mysterious, even neurological stuff. > > I'm wondering if anyone has gone the route of bacterial/parasite/ yeast > elimination as a means of treatment? My understanding is these things > don't necessarily directly cause chronic conditions, but can maybe > cause low level autoimmune syndromes; i've also read that they can > interfere with normal hormone metabolism. I don't know if these > pathogens could contribute to or exacerbate pssd, but it would be > interesting to hear more about it. I don't know what the connection > b/t digestive tract ecology and ssri use would be, but I have noticed > that conditions like chronic fatigue, with marked sexual dysfunction, > can be associated with prior birth control use, and a yeast > elimination or detox diet is recommended for such conditions. I could > imagine ssris and birth control inducing similar systemic reactions. > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > http://freeinternet press.com/ story.php? sid=14983 > <http://freeinternet press.com/ story.php? sid=14983> > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 My current diet isn't as much for parasites as it is for health in general, but it probably helps anyways. Getting parasites seems to almost be unavoidable, which is why some people do parasites cleanses at least twice a year. I avoid most of the time: sugar, caffeine, alcohol, noodles, breads, processed food (like frozen meals), carbohydrates (crackers, cookies, chips). Now I eat a lot of juiced vegetables, some fruit, sprouted whole-grain bread, brown rice, meat (like chicken, fish), beans, everything organic as much as possible. Lately I have been experimenting with fatty foods that are usually on the bad list: bacon, cheese, goat milk (no casein or lactose), plain yogurt, chicken and skin, butter, etc. The reason for this is because a few weeks I ate a lot of fatty food in a few days, and noticed that my mood was drastically raised up for a few days. For the last couple of years I ate as little saturated fat as possible, buying into all the hype. So I did some research and found some good evidence in books and online that provide good explanations as to why saturated is needed in moderation, else our moods will drop and problems will occur. Also, it is supposed to be really good for keeping blood sugar levels balanced, and for keeping us from becoming hungry too quickly. In other words: " There was no association between intake of saturated fat and the risk of coronary death. The scientific literature is loaded with this evidence. In fact saturated fats are the preferred energy source for your heart because they burn at such a reliable pace, much steadier and longer than carbs do. Many studies confirm that saturated fats can also protect you from stroke. One mood benefit provided by the creamy fats we've been avoiding all these years is that they support the function of the omega-3s in our brains, reducing the negative effects of the excess omega-6s [vegetable oils]. They actually lower levels of the most potentially damaging omega-6 fat, arachidonic acid. In your brain and body the saturated fats build protective cell walls. In your skin they keep damaging UV rays from penetrating and keep moisture in. They keep your blood sugar levels rock solid, which keeps your mood solid, too. " If you think about it, disease and mental problems here in the US havegone up by like a million in the last hundred years. People a hundred years ago used to be skinny, yet they ate butter, milk, fatty foods. What they didn't eat was a crapload of carbs and sugar, which make you reach for more. I had to give up eggs for the time being, because I become fatigued a few hours after eating them, so I assume I have a sensitivity to them, else I would be eating two each day. I also think I may have issues with oats, so I gave them up for the time being as well. Shay brettszabo1 wrote: > What kinds of diet changes have you been following? The one i just > started is basically only meat, fish, veggies, and whole grains and > excludes all sources of sugar, e.g. bread/baked goods, vinegar, > alcohol/fermented foods, dairy, fruit/fruit juice. > > Re: Re: Morgellon's disease > > I've been doing a a bunch of cleansing and diet changes over the last > three months, and have done one parasite cleanse using a homeopathic > product called ParaGone. My cortisol tests showed a really strange > curve, with my morning level being sky high, and then drifting down to > nothing by night. Took me forever to figure out what it meant, but > finally found one source via the book The Mood Cure that said that this > is an indication that parasites are indeed present. This is because they > are most active while you sleep, which means high cortisol upon waking > up, when taking the first saliva sample. > > There seems to be two methods of getting rid of parasites: the > antiobotic/drug route, and the herb route. Most people on curezone.com > <http://curezone.com> > preach the herb route. The three key ingredients are wormwood, black > walnut hull, and clove. There are usually more that assist, especially > fiber and stuff to help rinse out your colon. Now most people avoid the > antiobiotics because they seem to kill everything in their path, > including good bacteria, and in the long run lower your immunity. > > The people at curezone also use " zappers " in conjunction with the herbs. > It's a device that sends an electric current into you. From what I have > read, people seem seem to benefit from them. Their explanation as to why > it actually works seems stupid and too simple, but I read one scientific > journal that demonstrated that they do work, and gave a better > explanation as to how this could be (had to do with allowing the herbs > to penetrate deeper into cells or something). > > After doing research on parasites and all, it seems that a lot of > diseases and illnesses are linked to parasites, but doctors don't even > mention them most of the time. They definitely are linked to chronic > fatigue syndrome. > > I'll be ordering a zapper in the coming months and doing another round > using a cleaner called " humaworm, " because most of the people at > curezone seem to have good results with it. > > Shay > > brettszabo1 wrote: > > > > Haven't posted here in a long time, but I thought this Morgellon's > > article was interesting. Of course, a lot of parallels between those > > sufferers and us as far as not being taken seriously. But then, the > > Morgellon's group seems to have gotten their shit together, and I > > second the notion that we could take some inspiration from them and > > set up some more financial organization, maybe get more people in > > academia to take notice. I know that's been mentioned many times here > > before, but this article makes it seem more plausible. > > > > On a different note, I was intrigued by the idea of Morgellon's being > > caused by pathogens, e.g. bacteria. I am seeing a nutritionist right > > now and they tested me for intestinal bacteria and parasites and I had > > three different ones for which I took antibiotics for 2 weeks. Since > > then, my fatigue symptoms have lightened somewhat. Now I am supposed > > to follow a yeast elimination diet, as yeast is often implicated by > > alt medicine as a cause of chronic problems, sometimes very > > mysterious, even neurological stuff. > > > > I'm wondering if anyone has gone the route of bacterial/parasite/ yeast > > elimination as a means of treatment? My understanding is these things > > don't necessarily directly cause chronic conditions, but can maybe > > cause low level autoimmune syndromes; i've also read that they can > > interfere with normal hormone metabolism. I don't know if these > > pathogens could contribute to or exacerbate pssd, but it would be > > interesting to hear more about it. I don't know what the connection > > b/t digestive tract ecology and ssri use would be, but I have noticed > > that conditions like chronic fatigue, with marked sexual dysfunction, > > can be associated with prior birth control use, and a yeast > > elimination or detox diet is recommended for such conditions. I could > > imagine ssris and birth control inducing similar systemic reactions. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > http://freeinternet press.com/ story.php? sid=14983 > <http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14983> > > <http://freeinternet press.com/ story.php? sid=14983 > <http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14983>> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 You need low fat dairy products and a little bit of vegetable fat IMO. > What kinds of diet changes have you been following? The one i just started is basically only meat, fish, veggies, and whole grains and excludes all sources of sugar, e.g. bread/baked goods, vinegar, alcohol/fermented foods, dairy, fruit/fruit juice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 If you aren't eating enough fatty foods that could be a problem. Fatty foods are important for your immune system because they contain lots of zinc. Try eating some beef. > > > > > > > > http://freeinternet press.com/ story.php? sid=14983 > > <http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14983> > > > <http://freeinternet press.com/ story.php? sid=14983 > > <http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14983>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 i think bad or good fats are how your body makes hormones like testosterone > > > > > > > > > > http://freeinternet press.com/ story.php? sid=14983 > > > <http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14983> > > > > <http://freeinternet press.com/ story.php? sid=14983 > > > <http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14983>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ------ > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 I think zinc and magnesium are also important for testosterone production. I think serotonin lowers testosterone production > > > > > > > > > > > > http://freeinternet press.com/ story.php? sid=14983 > > > > <http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14983> > > > > > <http://freeinternet press.com/ story.php? sid=14983 > > > > <http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14983>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > > ------ > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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