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Rhodiola Rosea did increase my sex drive by a fraction, but after 2

months R R had completely stopped working. A shame, because R R is

the best antidepressant I have tried. It was good fit, it

stimulated me for the first few days and then it was beautiful. A

tried breaks from it but it still was never the same.

Some people say have a month off every 4 months. Others say have a

week off every three. If I had done the latter I might have never

built up a tollerance. Still, one of my books on R R says it can take

2 months to work and end depression, so it's confusing.

I stopped R R for about two months and now it works again, buy I only

take it 3 days week. I have read that if you suffer from badly from

adrenal exhaustion R R won't work. I'm very ill with adrenal

exhaustion so maybe that's the reason R R became less effective.

Kavy

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> > Here are some of the symptoms that coincided with my sexual and

> > emotional symptoms and I'm wondering if anyone on here has had

any of

> > these.

> > Less vivid dreams and not remembering dreams upon waking.

> > Less sound, deep sleep. Awoken more easily.

> > Red, flaky skin patches on face (dermatitis not acne).

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I bought mine on eBay UK from Refresh Organics, it was the cheapest.

I took 1 capsule at 500mg to start with and it was very stimulating

but that settled down after a few days.

I would get a wonderful taste come into my mouth soon after taking

it - perfumed, like rose and cherry. I would often open a capsule to

taste it, it was pure herb with no additives, and it tasted very

fresh. I think it was of good quality and it was Siberian.

I found that it would have worn off by the evening so I started

taking another at 2pm. They said you can take a second capsule if you

need it. After about 8 weeks I did not feel anything anymore. I

carried on for another couple of months and then gave it up. When I

gave it up I felt worse so it was problably working a bit.

Artic Root by the Swedish Institute is suppose to be the best and

people say it is very strong.

In the Rhodiola Revolution, a book written by Brown and

Praticia Gerbarg, both psychiatrists, they take it permantly without

breaks. It cured Pratricia chronic fatigue syndrome which was caused

by lyme disease. They say take no more than 400mg a day, although

they presribe 600mg for some people. 200m to 300mg is the normal

dose. Mine could have stopped working because of the high dose I was

taking.

It makes the world look lovely especially if it's sunny. It seems to

work right away on me, no getting into my system is needed.

Rhodiola stops your adrenal glands from throwing out loads of nasty

chemicals so it can heal your body. And by lowering cortisol, etc, it

can help you lose weight too- I lost 1/2 a stone.

Kavy

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> > > > Here are some of the symptoms that coincided with my sexual

and

> > > > emotional symptoms and I'm wondering if anyone on here has

had

> > any of

> > > > these.

> > > > Less vivid dreams and not remembering dreams upon waking.

> > > > Less sound, deep sleep. Awoken more easily.

> > > > Red, flaky skin patches on face (dermatitis not acne).

> > > >

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RR only increased my anxiety for a few days and then it was

beautiful. Usually most things increase my anxiety, 5-HTP, St s

wort, all antidepressants, caffiene, and even tranquillers. RR must

be exceptional then, especially as it a stimulant - I'm very uptight.

I didn't notice any more dreams with RR. Don't take it after 12pm -

if you take 500mg twice a day, then don't take the last dose after

2pm.

Dreaming is not good if you have depression, you need a small REM

sleep with a long non dreaming deep restoritive sleep. RR has been

shown to improve sleep by relieving depression but don't take it late

in the day.

Kavy

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> > > > > > Here are some of the symptoms that coincided with my

sexual

> > and

> > > > > > emotional symptoms and I'm wondering if anyone on here has

> > had

> > > > any of

> > > > > > these.

> > > > > > Less vivid dreams and not remembering dreams upon waking.

> > > > > > Less sound, deep sleep. Awoken more easily.

> > > > > > Red, flaky skin patches on face (dermatitis not acne).

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One sign of Vitamin B6 deficiency is no dream recall upon awakening, or less vivid dreams. I don't know if the SSRIs cause vitamin B6 deficiency but it's a possibility. To start recalling your dreams again a starting dose of 50mg or 100mg vitamin B6 is usually taken at bedtime. A person should not take more than 300mg vitamin B6 per day.

Effects of pyridoxine on dreaming: a preliminary study.

Ebben M, Lequerica A, Spielman A.

City College of New York, USA.

The effect of pyridoxine (Vitamin B-6) on dreaming was investigated in a placebo, double-blind study to examine various claims that Vitamin B-6 increases dream vividness or the ability to recall dreams. 12 college students participated in all three treatment conditions, each of which involved ingesting either 100 mg B-6, 250 mg B-6, or a placebo prior to bedtime for a period of five consecutive days. The treatment conditions were completely counterbalanced and a two-day wash-out period occurred between the three five-day treatment blocks. Morning self-reports indicated a significant difference in dream-salience scores (this is a composite score containing measures on vividness, bizarreness, emotionality, and color) between the 250-mg condition and placebo over the first three days of each treatment. The data for dream salience suggests that Vitamin B-6 may act by increasing cortical arousal during periods of rapid eve movement (REM) sleep. An hypothesis is presented involving the role of B-6 in the conversion of tryptophan to serotonin. However, this first study needs to be replicated using the same procedures and also demonstrated in a sleep laboratory before the results can be considered certain.

PMID: 11883552 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

SSRI treatment suppresses dream recall frequency but increases subjective dream intensity in normal subjects.

Pace-Schott EF, Gersh T, Silvestri R, Stickgold R, Salzman C, Hobson JA.

Laboratory of Neurophysiology, Department of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA 02115, USA. edward_scott@...

Clinical lore and a small number of published studies report that the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) intensify dreaming. This study examines the dream effects of paroxetine and fluvoxamine in order to both increase clinical knowledge of these agents and to test an important potential method for probing the relationship between REM sleep neurobiology and dreaming in humans. Fourteen normal, paid volunteers (4 males, 10 females; mean age 27.4 year, range 22--39) free of medical or neuropsychiatric symptoms as well as of psychotropic or sleep affecting drugs completed a 31-day home-based study consisting of: 7 days drug-free baseline; 19 days on either 100 mg fluvoxamine (7 Ss) or 20 mg paroxetine (7 Ss) in divided morning and evening doses; and 5 days acute discontinuation. Upon awakening, subjects wrote dream reports, self-scored specific emotions in their reports and rated seven general dream characteristics using 5-point Likert scales. Dream reports were independently scored for bizarreness, movement and number of visual nouns by three judges. REM sleep-related measures were obtained using the Nightcap ambulatory sleep monitor. Mean dream recall frequency decreased during treatment compared with baseline. Dream report length and judge-rated bizarreness were greater during acute discontinuation compared with both baseline and treatment and this effect was a result of the fluvoxamine-treated subjects. The subjective intensity of dreaming increased during both treatment and acute discontinuation compared with baseline. Propensity to enter REM sleep was decreased during treatment compared with baseline and acute discontinuation and the intensity of REM sleep increased during acute discontinuation compared with baseline and treatment. The decrease in dream frequency during SSRI treatment may reflect serotonergic REM suppression while the augmented report length and bizarreness during acute SSRI discontinuation may reflect cholinergic rebound from serotonergic suppression.

PMID: 11422727 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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