Re: New here, still narrowing down my diagnosis

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> I am an (almost) 37 year old mother of 3 great kids. I have been

having

> RA type sympotms for almost a year now. I have gone through many

ruled

> out diagnosis, and am really getting tired of not feeling well. I

have

> been on Celebrex (quit working after 3 weeks), Mobic (caused

severe h2O

> retention), Flexeril, and am now on 2 motrin and 1 tylenol three

times

> per day. I am still nursing my youngest and hope to make it for at

> least 2 more months before I have to wean her to take stronger

meds. My

> rhumatologist is still thinking I may have either RA or

Fibromyalgia.

> All of my RA tests came back " normal. " I also tested negative for

Lupus

> and Lyme. I have Hashimoto's Thyroidits wich is also an autoimmune

> disease, but it is under control with Armour.

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> I came here for some advice and support from those who have been

there

> and done that. Has any here been given a positive RA dx even

though

> their bloodwork was " normal " ? What did your doc do as far as

treatment?

> I really don't think I have fibormyalgia because all of my

symptoms are

> in the joints. My only Fibro symptom is sever fatigue (of course

I work

> full time and have 3 young kids [] ).

>

> Looking forward to getting to know you all and learning about your

> treatments!

>

Hi

I am new here too I have both RA and Firbo. I am on alot of meds and

shots nothing works for me. good luck in your health.

Janet

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My blood work was normal but I do have RA. It isnt

that uncommon. And if fatigue is the only symptom that

is Fibro like, keep in mind it is one of the major

symptoms of RA too. I hope they get this figured out

soon so that they can start treating you properly.

Good luck and keep us posted.

sincerely,

--- <cook.nicole@...> wrote:

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> I am an (almost) 37 year old mother of 3 great kids.

> I have been having

> RA type sympotms for almost a year now. I have

> gone through many ruled

> out diagnosis, and am really getting tired of not

> feeling well. I have

> been on Celebrex (quit working after 3 weeks), Mobic

> (caused severe h2O

> retention), Flexeril, and am now on 2 motrin and 1

> tylenol three times

> per day. I am still nursing my youngest and hope to

> make it for at

> least 2 more months before I have to wean her to

> take stronger meds. My

> rhumatologist is still thinking I may have either RA

> or Fibromyalgia.

> All of my RA tests came back " normal. " I also

> tested negative for Lupus

> and Lyme. I have Hashimoto's Thyroidits wich is

> also an autoimmune

> disease, but it is under control with Armour.

>

> I came here for some advice and support from those

> who have been there

> and done that. Has any here been given a positive

> RA dx even though

> their bloodwork was " normal " ? What did your doc do

> as far as treatment?

> I really don't think I have fibormyalgia because all

> of my symptoms are

> in the joints. My only Fibro symptom is sever

> fatigue (of course I work

> full time and have 3 young kids [] ).

>

> Looking forward to getting to know you all and

> learning about your

> treatments!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> removed]

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[Guest guest]

---hi nicole a thought when did you do a detox

toxins can cause havoc in the body and from my research one of the

leading causes of major problems

Elimination

Every thing which your body does, every activity produces waste and

we get rid of that waste through the skin, the lungs, the kidneys

and the intestines. Major problems start to occur when any of these

important channels are stopped from doing their job, we start to

accumulate waste, bacteria start growing at alarming rates which

leads to all sorts of problems as we become toxic.

Imagine not cleaning up the kitchen very often –leaving waste –what

would happen ,your kitchen would become literally alive with all

sorts of creepy bacteria etc the same with our bodies .

The fact that poor elimination's are the most cited cause of disease

within the Edgar cayce research papers totaling over 14000 gives

you some idea just how important this aspect really is. It gives you

an idea of the importance of getting rid of toxins, rid of waste

from our bodies.

Some of the diseases which elimination problems either cause or play

a big and major part include.

Arthritis

Acne

Anemia

Apoplexy-stroke

Appendicitis

Asthenia

Asthma

Atrophy

Balding-poor circulation

Bladder stricture

Blepharitis

Some cases of blindness

Boils

Brain tumors –poor circulation

Bronchitis

Bursitis

Cancers and tumors

Skin cancer

Canker sores and herpes simplex

Cataracts

Cirrhosis

Colds

Colic-poor assimilation

Colitis

Colon impaction

Complexion problems

Cystitis

Cysts

Some cases of deafness

Dermatitis

Eczema

Edema

Enteritis

Feet swelling

Gall bladder –gall stones

Haliosis-bad breath

Headaches general

Hemorrhoids

Hepatitis

Hernia

Herpes zoster

Unwanted hair

Indigestion

Insomnia

Iritis

Kidney problems

Laryngitis

Leukemia

Lumbago

Lupus

Lymphangitis

Malaria

Measles

Menopause problems

Migraine

Some cases of myopia

Polyps

Nephritis

Neuritis

Oophoritis

Phlebitis

Pneumonia problems

Poison ivy

Prostatitis

Pruritus

Psoriasis

Purpura

Pyorrhea

Rheumatic fever

Sarcoma

Sciatica

Rheumatism

Scolliosis –eliminations were a cause and an effect

Seborrhea

Skin ulcers

Female/ male sterile

Streptococcus infection

Tic douloureux

Tonsillitis

Torticollis

Ulcers

Vaginitis

Varicose veins

Vertigo-some cases

Xeroderma

So if you are suffering from any of these complaints it is highly

likely that you could be helped by increasing your bodies ability to

rid itself of toxins and wastes. It is as simple as that.

Phenomenal results have been obtained from increasing your

elimination's. Peoples lives have literally been turned around,

OK so what can you do to boost those all important elimination's.

just like we wash each day to keep clean , occasionally we need to

have an internal bath too. These are called enemas and colonics,

cayce even said one should have a colonic every few months to stay

in tip top shape. I think it was john Wayne who when he died was

carrying over 40lbs of dead matter inside his insides.

Benefits

A Boosted immune system, Improved functioning of the digestive

system Increased hydration means improved concentration, Increased

energy levels, Improved sense of well being, Restful sleep

The benefits of detoxifying your body are both short and long term.

Immediately after detoxifying you might notice increased mental

awareness, more energy, more comfortable digestion of foods, and

better absorption of nutrients, as well as an overall feeling of

better health. Long-term benefits can be a reduction of chronic

illnesses

A gentle cleansing can benefit the body in many ways including

improved health, mental clarity, restful sleep and recharged

vitality. The emergence of your true inner beauty will become as

clear as your skin, eyes and shining hair.

It is not possible to use an enema as such, in people who have a

colostomy or ileostomy

one of the most vital elements in our bodies.

Most people are shocked to learn that the average person holds

between 5 and 10 pounds of putrefied faecal matter and other foul

material in the body.

The bowel walls become encrusted with un-eliminated faecal matter,

creating a " catch 22 " situation. Not only does this toxic material

hamper the absorption of vital nutrients through the intestinal wall

and provide a breeding ground for unhealthy bacteria, but it also

causes the blood capillaries lining the intestinal wall to begin

absorbing these toxins into the bloodstream, consequently polluting

all of our organs

The UK is said to have the highest incidence of bowel cancer in the

world with about 20,000 new cases per year. One in three people

consulting their doctors have bowel problems, such as

diverticulitis, Colitis, Crohn's Disease, and Candida infections.

A major part of these problems will be due to neglected inner

hygiene.

Infants are a perfect example. Ask any mother for proof—a baby will

eat and immediately eliminate. Their new digestive systems have not

had time to develop the mal-absorption problems caused by improper

diet, environmental toxins and stress.

Faulty digestion and elimination develop in an individual through

the years of improper lifestyle and dietary habits.

According to Dr Bernard Jensen, the famous American naturopath,

after working with more than 350,000 patients over a 50-year span,

not one of them was free from some form of bowel disorder. He

concluded that all sick people have bowel problems and all sick

people are tired and toxin laden. Dr Jensens Guide to Better Bowel

Care.

Medical autopsies have revealed that impacted waste and blockages to

parts of the bowel that usually have a diameter of up to 20cm, have

only a 1cm passage for the waste to pass through. It is not

surprising that the incidence of bowel disease and bowel cancer is

on the increase.

Gearin-Tosh is a fellow of St 's College in the

University of Oxford. He has famously achieved long-term survival

with myeloma, an aggressive cancer with an average survival of one

year.

Living Proof is his remarkable story, diagnosed with cancer when he

was fifty-four, refused the immediate treatment consultants

urged him to undergo and embarked on his own quest to overcome the

illness. His quest led him to embarking in Gerson Therapy, of which

coffee enemas are a daily and integral part of his treatment. Many

years on he maintains a daily regime incorporating them, and has

remained in remission against overwhelming odds.

Gearin-Tosh, the author of Living Proof (ISBN 0-7432-0680-0)

As I prescribe in my book Living Proof, coffee enemas have played a

crucial part in my survival. I recommend them strongly and, contrary

to what you may think, they are not disagreeable. They are soothing

and invigorating. "

phil

In , " " <cook.nicole@...> wrote:

>

>

> I am an (almost) 37 year old mother of 3 great kids. I have been

having

> RA type sympotms for almost a year now. I have gone through many

ruled

> out diagnosis, and am really getting tired of not feeling well. I

have

> been on Celebrex (quit working after 3 weeks), Mobic (caused

severe h2O

> retention), Flexeril, and am now on 2 motrin and 1 tylenol three

times

> per day. I am still nursing my youngest and hope to make it for at

> least 2 more months before I have to wean her to take stronger

meds. My

> rhumatologist is still thinking I may have either RA or

Fibromyalgia.

> All of my RA tests came back " normal. " I also tested negative for

Lupus

> and Lyme. I have Hashimoto's Thyroidits wich is also an autoimmune

> disease, but it is under control with Armour.

>

> I came here for some advice and support from those who have been

there

> and done that. Has any here been given a positive RA dx even

though

> their bloodwork was " normal " ? What did your doc do as far as

treatment?

> I really don't think I have fibormyalgia because all of my

symptoms are

> in the joints. My only Fibro symptom is sever fatigue (of course

I work

> full time and have 3 young kids [] ).

>

> Looking forward to getting to know you all and learning about your

> treatments!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi :

Welcome to the group! You will learn so much from

bieng here, our moderators keep us up on all the

latest information, and the members are very

supportive and caring.

Yes, you can definately have RA and yet be negative

for the RA factor. If it is RA, you need to be

started on DMARDs, or disease modivifying drugs, some

examples are Methotrexate, Arava, or Plaquenil, and

these medications are extremely important in the fight

against the disease process itself. It sounds like

your doctor understands this, and is just waiting for

your baby to be weaned before starting a more

aggressive treatment program. That is exactly what is

needed. If you take only anti-inflammatories and pain

meds, you will simply mask the disease, and could run

the risk of joint deformities and disability. If the

stronger medications are helpful, then RA is likely

the source of your pain and discomfort.

I also have FM, and it is a lot more than just

fatigue, which is also a part of RA. It could be that

you just have RA if it is only your joints causing

your pain. Do you have warmth, redness or swelling of

the joints? That would be more RA. Joint pain and

stiffness are also found in Fibro, but so is massive

muscle pain throughout the entire body, migraines,

IBS, and other associated problems. I sure hope you

do not have both!

I cannot even imagine what it would have been like to

have three little ones (and one still nursing) and

have RA! My kids were 12 and 15 when I was diagnosed

7 years ago, and pretty much able to take care of

themselves. They also took care of me on many

occasions!

Good luck - and take care - I hope that you will find

this group as helpful as I have!

Kathe in CA

Kathe

" To ride a horse is to borrow freedom. "

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