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Hi Anne

I have PA and have had shoulder pain for a few years, all the things

you say you have problems with I do too, had to buy a front fastening

bra, got lots of problems putting on clothes, can`t lie on that

shoulder either, it got really bad recently so instead of normal

shoulder xray which had never shown anything,I was sent for an

ultrasound xray. The results of the scan showed that I have shoulder

impingement, for which I was given a cortizone injection and am

waiting for a shoulder decompression surgery, waiting list about 50

weeks. the Ultrasound technician said that my tendon in my shoulder is

swollen and is having bother getting through the space in my shoulder.

When I asked my doctor about it she agreed that the PA had probably

caused the swelling.

I have got quite a lot of problems with various tendons around my

body, achilles tendons being one of them. As far as I know this is one

of the things PA attacks.

I think that you should try and get this checked out as soon as you

can, It isn`t much fun is it?

Take Care

Audrey

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> I have pain and reduced range of motion in one of my shoulders. I

> cannot put my arm behind my back to do up my bra and I have trouble

> doing my hair. If I try to put my hand behind my back it is very

> painful. Does anyone have similar symptoms and do they think that it

> is caused by PA or something like tendonitis or frozen shoulder? Any

> comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Anne

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Hi Anne,

I'm not have much trouble with my bra,( :-) ) but I can't lift my left

elbow above my shoulder without a lot of pain and can not put it

behind my back. The right shoulder is starting to hurt also. The

left one has been getting worse for the last 2 years. My Rheumy seems

to think is from the my PA.

It is one of the things I am working on when I go to physical therapy

and hydrotherapy. The day I go it hurts and by the next day it is a

little better, but by the next time I go it is hurting again. The

best thing for my shoulder has been when I get into our hot tub, but

then again it seems to help all my joints.

Wish I could tell ya more, but that's all I know.

Good luck with your shoulder.

Dick

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>

> I have pain and reduced range of motion in one of my shoulders. I

> cannot put my arm behind my back to do up my bra and I have trouble

> doing my hair. If I try to put my hand behind my back it is very

> painful. Does anyone have similar symptoms and do they think that it

> is caused by PA or something like tendonitis or frozen shoulder? Any

> comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Anne

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In a message dated 4/23/05 12:44:39 PM GMT Daylight Time,

annearthur@... writes:

I have pain and reduced range of motion in one of my shoulders. I

cannot put my arm behind my back to do up my bra and I have trouble

doing my hair. If I try to put my hand behind my back it is very

painful. Does anyone have similar symptoms and do they think that it

is caused by PA or something like tendonitis or frozen shoulder? Any

comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Anne

Hi Anne,

I am not too bad at the moment but in the past I have had that problem. I

describe it as feeling as if there is a knife stuck in under my right shoulder

blade. (Not that I've ever had a knife stuck in there to know what that feels

like. lol Oh and I had better say that I don't wear a bra either so I'm ok

there. lol) Hopefully if the rest of your joints were to improve, that would

too, at least I hope that is the case for you.

Good luck,

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At 06:15 AM 4/26/2005, you wrote:

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>I have pain and reduced range of motion in one of my shoulders. I

>cannot put my arm behind my back to do up my bra and I have trouble

>doing my hair.

I had similar and was treated for a lengthy period for tendonitis. I had 2

cortisone injections and PT, but the problem recurred. An MRI revealed a

torn rotator cuff. I had surgery Feb 10th and am now rehabbing. I also have

the knife under the shoulder blade pain and it is aggravated when I turn my

head. The orthopedist said this is unrelated to the rotator cuff, most

likely related to my PA. My range of motion has improved greatly and the

pain and stiffness is reduced now to a regular dull ache which may also be

arthritis related. It is not present 100% of the time. I'm happy I had the

surgery. My quality of life has greatly improved. good luck. Mo

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if you have tingling in hands it could be thoracic

outlet syndrome.. ihavt bad Donna

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> In a message dated 4/23/05 12:44:39 PM GMT Daylight

> Time,

> annearthur@... writes:

>

>

> I have pain and reduced range of motion in one of

> my shoulders. I

> cannot put my arm behind my back to do up my bra and

> I have trouble

> doing my hair. If I try to put my hand behind my

> back it is very

> painful. Does anyone have similar symptoms and do

> they think that it

> is caused by PA or something like tendonitis or

> frozen shoulder? Any

> comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Anne

>

>

>

> Hi Anne,

>

> I am not too bad at the moment but in the past I

> have had that problem. I

> describe it as feeling as if there is a knife stuck

> in under my right shoulder

> blade. (Not that I've ever had a knife stuck in

> there to know what that feels

> like. lol Oh and I had better say that I don't wear

> a bra either so I'm ok

> there. lol) Hopefully if the rest of your joints

> were to improve, that would

> too, at least I hope that is the case for you.

>

> Good luck,

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi all,

My right shoulder really hurts between my scapula and clavicle. Heat

helps some, as does ice. Today I put a WellPatch for pain on which is

just menthol. It seems to have made the pain worse. That seems odd

since menthol is in other patches and creams. My pain meds are Ultram

and Darvocet N. Do rheums give steroid shots in that part of the

shoulder? Several years ago my pcp gave me one there.

thanks,

Debbie L

fibro, OA, DDD

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Debbie,

I don't know about rheumatologist giving shots in the shoulder but

I know orthopedics do. My left shoulder froze on me about 10 years

ago and he gave me a shot of prednisone and I haven't had any

problems since except tenderness from RA. But I have that in most

all my joints. My biggest pain is in my lower back. It doesn't seem

as though they can do much for that except give you pain pills.

I don't think they want to find a cure for RA because they are making

to much money. I would have to go to Dallas to see a rheumy so

I go to a DO that has his office less than a mile away.

Joyce from Texas

[ ] shoulder pain

Hi all,

My right shoulder really hurts between my scapula and clavicle. Heat

helps some, as does ice. Today I put a WellPatch for pain on which is

just menthol. It seems to have made the pain worse. That seems odd

since menthol is in other patches and creams. My pain meds are Ultram

and Darvocet N. Do rheums give steroid shots in that part of the

shoulder? Several years ago my pcp gave me one there.

thanks,

Debbie L

fibro, OA, DDD

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Hi Joyce,

Thanks for your response. My rheum has given me shots in rotator

cuff tendons a few times. Monday I will call him about this. I go to

Austin to see him. If my shoulder pain is anything like your RA

pain, I can very much sympathize with you! This is such a great

group and I stay here because of my fibro and joint problems.

hugs,

Debbie L

--- In , " Joyce McCrary " <j.mccrary@...>

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> Debbie,

>

> I don't know about rheumatologist giving shots in the shoulder but

> I know orthopedics do. My left shoulder froze on me about 10 years

> ago and he gave me a shot of prednisone and I haven't had any

> problems since except tenderness from RA. But I have that in most

> all my joints. My biggest pain is in my lower back. It doesn't

seem

> as though they can do much for that except give you pain pills.

> I don't think they want to find a cure for RA because they are

making

> to much money. I would have to go to Dallas to see a rheumy so

> I go to a DO that has his office less than a mile away.

>

> Joyce from Texas

>

>

> [ ] shoulder pain

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> My right shoulder really hurts between my scapula and clavicle.

Heat

> helps some, as does ice. Today I put a WellPatch for pain on which

is

> just menthol. It seems to have made the pain worse. That seems odd

> since menthol is in other patches and creams. My pain meds are

Ultram

> and Darvocet N. Do rheums give steroid shots in that part of the

> shoulder? Several years ago my pcp gave me one there.

>

> thanks,

>

> Debbie L

> fibro, OA, DDD

>

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I like this group too Debbie. Everyone is like homefolk

aren't they?

Joyce

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>

>

> Hi all,

>

> My right shoulder really hurts between my scapula and clavicle.

Heat

> helps some, as does ice. Today I put a WellPatch for pain on which

is

> just menthol. It seems to have made the pain worse. That seems odd

> since menthol is in other patches and creams. My pain meds are

Ultram

> and Darvocet N. Do rheums give steroid shots in that part of the

> shoulder? Several years ago my pcp gave me one there.

>

> thanks,

>

> Debbie L

> fibro, OA, DDD

>

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Since I also have diabetes, and diabetics are prone to get frozen

shoulders, my rheumy at first said that's what I had. But people

usually don't have both shoulders frozen at once. He sent me to

physical therapy, and I was supposed to do exercises to help it. It

would say things to do with your good arm. I didn't have a good arm!

Moving an arm in any direction was agony.

My hands were all swollen up, too, and I couldn't make a fist. He said

that was " diabetic limited joint mobility syndrome. "

He was a wonderful rheumy, but even wonderful ones can be wrong, too.

I got the referral to him from my endocrinologist, so I think he had

diabetes on his mind because of that.

Sue

On Jul 23, 2009, at 4:57 PM, stanpfister@... wrote:

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> Multiple flares in borth shoulders are the worst, makes me feel like

> a bag of potatoes.

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Hi!

I have 24/7 pain in both of my shoulders - some is because of RA - some is

because of nerve damage (I've dislocated both shldrs a total of 6x, broke one

shldr 1x & have pins in one!!)...I currently take 60mg Cymbalta for nerve pain

and it works wonderful. Yes - it's an anti-depressant but it's also been proven

to help nerve pain. I have been told that it can do wonders for

diabetics....might want to at least ask about it - never hurts!  But when I have

pain associated w/ RA - thermacare heat pads + pain pills are the only 2 things

that help me. Sometimes they hurt so bad that my fingers and hands go slightly

numb. It sure isn't fun - my heart goes out to  you - I definitely understand

though! Best to you!

 

in SC

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> Multiple flares in borth shoulders are the worst, makes me feel like

> a bag of potatoes.

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My girlfriend is having a serious issue with her left leg, it swelling up like a

balloon . This has been going on for months. Her GP cannot figure out what's

going on. My question is, do you think it could be related to diabetes? Thanks!

Stan

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:18:46 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

Subject: Re: [ ] Shoulder pain

Since I also have diabetes, and diabetics are prone to get frozen  

shoulders, my rheumy at first said that's what I had. But people  

usually don't have both shoulders frozen at once. He sent me to  

physical therapy, and I was supposed to do exercises to help it. It  

would say things to do with your good arm. I didn't have a good arm!  

Moving an arm in any direction was agony.

My hands were all swollen up, too, and I couldn't make a fist. He said  

that was " diabetic limited joint mobility syndrome. "

He was a wonderful rheumy, but even wonderful ones can be wrong, too.

I got the referral to him from my endocrinologist, so I think he had  

diabetes on his mind because of that.

Sue

On Jul 23, 2009, at 4:57 PM, stanpfister @comcast.net wrote:

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> Multiple flares in borth shoulders are the worst, makes me feel like  

> a bag of potatoes.

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Stan,

Has she had venous doppler studies done for blood clots?  Or have they mentioned

lymphedema?

Hope this helps,

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Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:56:33 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Shoulder pain

 

My girlfriend is having a serious issue with her left leg, it swelling up like a

balloon . This has been going on for months. Her GP cannot figure out what's

going on. My question is, do you think it could be related to diabetes? Thanks!

Stan

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:18:46 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

Subject: Re: [ ] Shoulder pain

Since I also have diabetes, and diabetics are prone to get frozen  

shoulders, my rheumy at first said that's what I had. But people  

usually don't have both shoulders frozen at once. He sent me to  

physical therapy, and I was supposed to do exercises to help it. It  

would say things to do with your good arm. I didn't have a good arm!  

Moving an arm in any direction was agony.

My hands were all swollen up, too, and I couldn't make a fist. He said  

that was " diabetic limited joint mobility syndrome. "

He was a wonderful rheumy, but even wonderful ones can be wrong, too.

I got the referral to him from my endocrinologist, so I think he had  

diabetes on his mind because of that.

Sue

On Jul 23, 2009, at 4:57 PM, stanpfister @comcast.net wrote:

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> Multiple flares in borth shoulders are the worst, makes me feel like  

> a bag of potatoes.

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Stan, as far as I know, diabetes doesn't cause swelling like that. It

can cause neuropathy in the feet and hands, but that is tingling or

lack of feeling. Is it just the one leg, or both? If both, I do know

that retaining fluid can cause sweilling. I don't know if she's been

diagnosed with diabetes or not, but if not, it wouldn't hurt to ask

for an A1c blood test.

I'm going away for a week, leaving tomorrow, so I hope can help

you.

Sue

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> My girlfriend is having a serious issue with her left leg, it

> swelling up like a balloon . This has been going on for months. Her

> GP cannot figure out what's going on. My question is, do you think

> it could be related to diabetes? Thanks!

>

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Geez, - what were you - a bull rider? 6 dislocations, 1 break and pins!!!

Good grief, woman! I can't even begin to imagine how you stand it! You're a

better woman than I am!.....Doreen :(

Hi!

I have 24/7 pain in both of my shoulders - some is because of RA - some is

because of nerve damage (I've dislocated both shldrs a total of 6x, broke one

shldr 1x & have pins in one!!)...I currently take 60mg Cymbalta for nerve pain

and it works wonderful. Yes - it's an anti-depressant but it's also been proven

to help nerve pain. I have been told that it can do wonders for

diabetics....might want to at least ask about it - never hurts!  But when I have

pain associated w/ RA - thermacare heat pads + pain pills are the only 2 things

that help me. Sometimes they hurt so bad that my fingers and hands go slightly

numb. It sure isn't fun - my heart goes out to  you - I definitely understand

though! Best to you!

 

in SC

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Stan - needs to see a new doctor. This could be related to her diabetes.

I have a diabetic friend who has lymphodema (sp?) and she has a horrible time

with her one leg swelling like a balloon. Its extremely painful - not to mention

dangerous if left untreated.....Doreen

My girlfriend is having a serious issue with her left leg, it swelling up like

a balloon. This has been going on for months. Her GP cannot figure out what's

going on. My question is, do you think it could be related to diabetes? Thanks!

Stan

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I'm a clutz....i.e. first time - I had high heels on and slipped on a wet slate

patio during a hard rain - fell backwards, catching myself. That time was a

bilateral dislocation. After that - once you have done it once, the shoulders

pop out much easier.  - Honestly, all of that has happened over a 10 yr span.

Although, I really love the bull riding explanation - I could use that and it

sure would sound more colorful!! hehehehe! I'm still giggling over that!

ltdavis_jrdavis@...

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Subject: [ ] Re: Shoulder pain

Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 7:23 AM

 

Geez, - what were you - a bull rider? 6 dislocations, 1 break and pins!!!

Good grief, woman! I can't even begin to imagine how you stand it! You're a

better woman than I am!.....Doreen :(

Hi!

I have 24/7 pain in both of my shoulders - some is because of RA - some is

because of nerve damage (I've dislocated both shldrs a total of 6x, broke one

shldr 1x & have pins in one!!)...I currently take 60mg Cymbalta for nerve pain

and it works wonderful. Yes - it's an anti-depressant but it's also been proven

to help nerve pain. I have been told that it can do wonders for diabetics...

..might want to at least ask about it - never hurts!  But when I have pain

associated w/ RA - thermacare heat pads + pain pills are the only 2 things that

help me. Sometimes they hurt so bad that my fingers and hands go slightly numb.

It sure isn't fun - my heart goes out to  you - I definitely understand though!

Best to you!

 

in SC

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Thanks.

Stan

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:40:04 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

Subject: Re: [ ] Shoulder pain

Stan, as far as I know, diabetes doesn't cause swelling like that. It  

can cause neuropathy in the feet and hands, but that is tingling or  

lack of feeling. Is it just the one leg, or both? If both, I do know  

that retaining fluid can cause sweilling. I don't know if she's been  

diagnosed with diabetes or not, but if not, it wouldn't hurt to ask  

for an A1c blood test.

I'm going away for a week, leaving tomorrow, so I hope can help  

you.

Sue

On Jul 23, 2009, at 7:56 PM, stanpfister@... wrote:

>

> My girlfriend is having a serious issue with her left leg, it  

> swelling up like a balloon . This has been going on for months. Her  

> GP cannot figure out what's going on. My question is, do you think  

> it could be related to diabetes? Thanks!

>

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She probably thought she could raise a kid on here own!

Stan

Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 4:23:13 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

Subject: [ ] Re: Shoulder pain

Geez, - what were you - a bull rider?  6 dislocations, 1 break and pins!!!

Good grief, woman! I can't even begin to imagine how you stand it! You're a

better woman than I am!.....Doreen :(

 Hi!

 I have 24/7 pain in both of my shoulders - some is because of RA - some is

because of nerve damage (I've dislocated both shldrs a total of 6x, broke one

shldr 1x & have pins in one!!)...I currently take 60mg Cymbalta for nerve pain

and it works wonderful. Yes - it's an anti-depressant but it's also been proven

to help nerve pain. I have been told that it can do wonders for

diabetics....might want to at least ask about it - never hurts!  But when I

have pain associated w/ RA - thermacare heat pads + pain pills are the only 2

things that help me. Sometimes they hurt so bad that my fingers and hands go

slightly numb. It sure isn't fun - my heart goes out to  you - I definitely

understand though! Best to you!

  

  in SC

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Back from the GP, he says it's tendonitis and she will treat it accordingly. It

had already done the labs to eliminate our suggestions.  We'll see if she does

the excersies?

Stan

[ ] Re: Shoulder pain

Stan - needs to see a new doctor. This could be related to her diabetes.

I have a diabetic friend who has lymphodema (sp?) and she has a horrible time

with her one leg swelling like a balloon. Its extremely painful - not to mention

dangerous if left untreated.....Doreen

 

 My girlfriend is having a serious issue with her left leg, it swelling up like

a balloon. This has been going on for months. Her GP cannot figure out what's

going on. My question is, do you think it could be related to diabetes? Thanks!

 

 Stan

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Back from the GP, he says it's tendinitis and she will treat it accordingly. It

had already done the labs to eliminate our suggestions.  We'll see if she does

the exercisers ? I had a friend with tendinitis years ago and I cannot say she

isn't experiencing the same symptoms in her knee.

Stan

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Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:23:12 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

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Stan,

Has she had venous doppler studies done for blood clots?  Or have they

mentioned lymphedema ?

Hope this helps,

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