2 cents on eliminating toxins, etc.

[Guest guest]

Phil,

" Onlurker " to the group checking in here...

I was exposed to the kind of treatments and thinking you are espousing as

a teenager, and I was very impressed. It felt very right to me. So I spent

most of my adulthood feeling as if I " should " be able to juice, fast, and

detoxify myself to wellness and on the other hand, distrusting western

medicine entirely. Unfortunately, I battled illness from infancy on and my

family had no medical insurance so I went to clinics and such.

As an adult, living paycheck to paycheck with a family, the detox process,

and the symptoms it brings were not an option for me. So I satisfied

myself with eating as organic and raw as I could, and taking whatever

medicines I needed to keep going.

I'm 51 now and have dermatomyositis.

The last few years, among my friends were a brother and sister who had the

resources to be able to commit themselves to total cleansing. They were

able to modify their lifestyles, travel to consult experts, go to

retreats, rest when they were going through a healing crisis - and only

work when they felt up to it, pay for high colonics, take any natural

supplement that was recommended, grow their own food, etc. Not that many

adults are in that situation where they can do that. They were positively

evangelicall about it.

What was the result: One of them, after 4-5 years, recently passed away

suddenly at the age of 60, after an illness I now realize he was dealing

with all along. He never sought western medical attention and he passed as

he wished.

His younger sister, after two years of joining him in the strictest

regime, has gradually modified her practices to allow more of a social

life with those not living the same way. In her case, the two years of

cleansing HAS helped her health, and she is a perfect example of the right

kind of person to try it. This is important: she was NOT THAT SICK TO

BEGIN WITH. She was in midlife, and she just wanted to feel a bit better.

Neither of them was sorry, both live(d) by what they believe and I respect

their choices. I also see value in these methods. But I feel their

situation is very instructive.

It's important, when preaching (and Phil, that's what I feel long

impersonal emails to a group like this are) detoxification as medicine, to

people, that you include a heads up on the kinds of ups and downs in their

bodies may result from embarking on a detox journey.

I was inspired by my friends and did try to follow suit. I am very

self-disciplined. But found I could not do that and hold down a job, as

right as it might be, because I was starting out from a position of more

severe unwellmess, and indeed, one of my friends did not survive his detox

journey.

So I have gone back to doing what I need to in order to be there for my

family, which in my case is a mixture of holistic and western healing

modalities.

What I wrote here is not in any way meant to disparage Edgar Cayce, who's

life work I deeply respect.

[Guest guest]

Nicely written. For me, the zealous tone of Phil's postings outweigh

his good intentions. His offerings feel unwholesome, lacking in

sensitivity and true knowledge. I plan to skip over them from now on.

Sierra

>

> Phil,

>

> " Onlurker " to the group checking in here...

>

> I was exposed to the kind of treatments and thinking you are

espousing as

> a teenager, and I was very impressed. It felt very right to me. So

I spent

> most of my adulthood feeling as if I " should " be able to juice,

fast, and

> detoxify myself to wellness and on the other hand, distrusting

western

> medicine entirely. Unfortunately, I battled illness from infancy on

and my

> family had no medical insurance so I went to clinics and such.

>

> As an adult, living paycheck to paycheck with a family, the detox

process,

> and the symptoms it brings were not an option for me. So I satisfied

> myself with eating as organic and raw as I could, and taking

whatever

> medicines I needed to keep going.

>

> I'm 51 now and have dermatomyositis.

>

> The last few years, among my friends were a brother and sister who

had the

> resources to be able to commit themselves to total cleansing. They

were

> able to modify their lifestyles, travel to consult experts, go to

> retreats, rest when they were going through a healing crisis - and

only

> work when they felt up to it, pay for high colonics, take any

natural

> supplement that was recommended, grow their own food, etc. Not that

many

> adults are in that situation where they can do that. They were

positively

> evangelicall about it.

>

> What was the result: One of them, after 4-5 years, recently passed

away

> suddenly at the age of 60, after an illness I now realize he was

dealing

> with all along. He never sought western medical attention and he

passed as

> he wished.

>

> His younger sister, after two years of joining him in the strictest

> regime, has gradually modified her practices to allow more of a

social

> life with those not living the same way. In her case, the two years

of

> cleansing HAS helped her health, and she is a perfect example of

the right

> kind of person to try it. This is important: she was NOT THAT SICK

TO

> BEGIN WITH. She was in midlife, and she just wanted to feel a bit

better.

>

> Neither of them was sorry, both live(d) by what they believe and I

respect

> their choices. I also see value in these methods. But I feel their

> situation is very instructive.

>

> It's important, when preaching (and Phil, that's what I feel long

> impersonal emails to a group like this are) detoxification as

medicine, to

> people, that you include a heads up on the kinds of ups and downs

in their

> bodies may result from embarking on a detox journey.

>

> I was inspired by my friends and did try to follow suit. I am very

> self-disciplined. But found I could not do that and hold down a

job, as

> right as it might be, because I was starting out from a position of

more

> severe unwellmess, and indeed, one of my friends did not survive

his detox

> journey.

>

> So I have gone back to doing what I need to in order to be there

for my

> family, which in my case is a mixture of holistic and western

healing

> modalities.

>

> What I wrote here is not in any way meant to disparage Edgar Cayce,

who's

> life work I deeply respect.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well said . I agree with youalso Sierra. I think i may skip the

ridiculous emails from now on.

http://www1.myspace.com/julz2kidz

[Guest guest]

I've been skipping them for a while. Even if it weren't for all the

reasons you mentioned, his posts are very repetitive, and I simply

don't have time.

> >

> > Phil,

> >

> > " Onlurker " to the group checking in here...

> >

> > I was exposed to the kind of treatments and thinking you are

> espousing as

> > a teenager, and I was very impressed. It felt very right to me.

So

> I spent

> > most of my adulthood feeling as if I " should " be able to juice,

> fast, and

> > detoxify myself to wellness and on the other hand, distrusting

> western

> > medicine entirely. Unfortunately, I battled illness from infancy

on

> and my

> > family had no medical insurance so I went to clinics and such.

> >

> > As an adult, living paycheck to paycheck with a family, the

detox

> process,

> > and the symptoms it brings were not an option for me. So I

satisfied

> > myself with eating as organic and raw as I could, and taking

> whatever

> > medicines I needed to keep going.

> >

> > I'm 51 now and have dermatomyositis.

> >

> > The last few years, among my friends were a brother and sister

who

> had the

> > resources to be able to commit themselves to total cleansing.

They

> were

> > able to modify their lifestyles, travel to consult experts, go to

> > retreats, rest when they were going through a healing crisis -

and

> only

> > work when they felt up to it, pay for high colonics, take any

> natural

> > supplement that was recommended, grow their own food, etc. Not

that

> many

> > adults are in that situation where they can do that. They were

> positively

> > evangelicall about it.

> >

> > What was the result: One of them, after 4-5 years, recently

passed

> away

> > suddenly at the age of 60, after an illness I now realize he was

> dealing

> > with all along. He never sought western medical attention and he

> passed as

> > he wished.

> >

> > His younger sister, after two years of joining him in the

strictest

> > regime, has gradually modified her practices to allow more of a

> social

> > life with those not living the same way. In her case, the two

years

> of

> > cleansing HAS helped her health, and she is a perfect example of

> the right

> > kind of person to try it. This is important: she was NOT THAT

SICK

> TO

> > BEGIN WITH. She was in midlife, and she just wanted to feel a

bit

> better.

> >

> > Neither of them was sorry, both live(d) by what they believe and

I

> respect

> > their choices. I also see value in these methods. But I feel

their

> > situation is very instructive.

> >

> > It's important, when preaching (and Phil, that's what I feel long

> > impersonal emails to a group like this are) detoxification as

> medicine, to

> > people, that you include a heads up on the kinds of ups and

downs

> in their

> > bodies may result from embarking on a detox journey.

> >

> > I was inspired by my friends and did try to follow suit. I am

very

> > self-disciplined. But found I could not do that and hold down a

> job, as

> > right as it might be, because I was starting out from a position

of

> more

> > severe unwellmess, and indeed, one of my friends did not survive

> his detox

> > journey.

> >

> > So I have gone back to doing what I need to in order to be there

> for my

> > family, which in my case is a mixture of holistic and western

> healing

> > modalities.

> >

> > What I wrote here is not in any way meant to disparage Edgar

Cayce,

> who's

> > life work I deeply respect.

> >

> >

> >

>