Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 , Definitions: (4) Mycotoxins Fungal secondary metabolites toxic to ANIMALS and/or HUMAN (5) Fungal toxins: Toxic chemicals produced by fungi Vocabulary is our internal references to the real world. We use the same words for the same meaning that we all understand, and that's how we communicate to each other. Common language is more flexible than scientific terms. You can call whatever you reconsidered "toxic chemicals" produced by fungi "fungal toxins", and people will accept it as it sounds. "Mycotoxins" is a scientific term and has its definition agreed by the science community in the related fields. If someone wish to publish a paper in a peer-reviewed scientific journal or speak in a professional manner (like we do here), the definition has to be followed. You can go search for a list of mycotoxins in scientific journals and see how each one of them were discovered and classified as mycotoxins. Anti-microbial chemicals produced by fungi (antibiotics) not toxic to animals or human are not called mycotoxins. Education doesn't have to be in school. People are sharing something here in this forum everyday. Just open your mind and learn. And, thank you, . I learned to define a new term, "fungal toxins" because of you. BTW, the "(non-volatile)" part in my previous post is not a definition, but a common description for mycotoxins, which are generally considered as non-volatile and stay in the fungal matter or the substrate that they grow on. Aerosolization of those materials makes mycotoxins airborne. Wei Tang QLABerikmoldwarrior wrote: AirwaysEnv@... wrote:> , > Not to speak for , but I have the same question he asked. How do you know that your observed effects are caused by mycotoxins and not some other component of microbial contamination. This is not to deny in any way that it might be caused by mycotoxins -- just looking for some strong evidence that it is, in fact, due to exposure to mycotoxins and not certain MVOCs, for example. And then the next question, of course, would be "which (Stachybotrys) mycotoxin(s)?".> Steve Proximity testing to a sample of Stachy.With total disinterest, contradiction and intransigence from doctors and researchers, I don't know which subclass of toxin.If an mVOC produced by a mold has toxic effects, how on Earth could one fail to classify it as a "myco-toxin" regardless of whether it is a secondary metabolite or simply an organic by-product of unintended toxicity?I think this "lay person" would tend to think that a toxic waste product of mold would still be a "mycotoxin" and that a deliberately configured chemical weapon against competing microbes would be a "mycotoxin secondary metabolite", but both toxins are still from mold.Both are still mycotoxins to my uneducated way of thinking. -FAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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