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> Hi--

>

> My 4.4 year-old son was diagnosed in late January as PDD-NOS. We

are

> currently GF/CF/SF, and we have seen some improvements in terms of

> behavior and ability to grasp concepts.

>

> We have started seeing a former DAN! doctor (just recently his name

> disappeared from the list...I don't know why yet),

Call him or ARI and ask. I'd be quite curious to know how they

maintain their list.

> and he has recommended

> several supplements. One of those was Super Nu-Thera, but we saw

> tremendous regression (actually, he ended up worse than he had ever

been

> before), so we cut that and went with a B6 powder that I put in

foods.

> The doctor recommended Ambrotose, but that made my son pee himself

> several times throughout the day (we challenged twice and the

reaction

> was always the same). So we cut that. Currently he is on Trans

Factor

> Kids (2x day), flax seed meal (~1 tsp. a day if I can hide it),

> acidophilus wafers (2x day), and B6 (200 mg sprinkled in foods).

>

> At our appointment at the end of last week, the doctor recommended

that

> we add aloe (liquid that can be put in his juice) and carnosine (I

found

> a capsule I can separate and put in food)...he had his first dose of

the

> aloe today, and I'm waiting to see what type of reaction (if any)

that

> elicits before I try the carnosine.

>

> Another recommendation was NDF drops (Nanocolloidal Detox Factor).

The

> only information I can find on this is provided by vested interests

who

> are selling the product and I'm hoping there is some information

here or

> somebody could guide me to other information.

Well, based on MY read of the information provided by the vested

interests, the stuff doesn't work.

> We just had my son's hair

> taken for a heavy metals test...this is a new area to us, and I'm

> honestly not too sure what to expect.

Hopefully it was a Doctor's Data or Great Plains hair test, otherwise

you'll have to repeat it.

See

/files/HOW_TO_hair_test

for how to interpret it.

> Anyway, since the NDF seems to be some type of chelator,

nope.

> but not one I've

> seen mentioned on any of the listserves I frequent, I'm holding off

on

> that until I have some test results (which I will be sure to share

to get

> some educated input as I educate myself).

>

> From what I've told you, does anybody have any recommendations or

ideas

> for what I could be doing either in terms of supplements

vitamin C 3 or 4 times a day, 10,000 IU a day of vitamin A.

>or reading that

> would help me? I would appreciate input. I have been reading

messages

> for a few days, and you seem quite knowledgable about areas that are

> still very gray to me

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> We just had my son's hair taken for a heavy metals test...this is a new

area to us, and I'm honestly not too sure what to expect. 

<BR>

Hopefully it was a Doctor's Data or Great Plains hair test, otherwise <BR>

you'll have to repeat it.<BR>

Yes, it was sent to Doctor's Data.

> Anyway, since the NDF seems to be some type of chelator, <BR>

<BR>

nope.<BR>

Hmmm....that was the reason stated for using the drops. Interesting.

That was why I told him I wouldn't give them until I got a lab report

that suggested metal toxicity was a problem.

Thank you so much for your information and suggestions. And I'm sure I'm

not highlighting the previous texts and my responses correctly, so please

forgive me if this comes through terribly difficult to read. Practice,

practice, practice!

Allyson

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> At our appointment at the end of last week, the doctor recommended

that

> we add aloe (liquid that can be put in his juice) and carnosine (I

found

> a capsule I can separate and put in food)...he had his first dose

of the

> aloe today, and I'm waiting to see what type of reaction (if any)

that

> elicits before I try the carnosine.

>

> TIA--Allyson

I started my son on aloe extract - Salute brand, and was told to get

this brand becuase the amount of MPS was high. It was a couple of

weeks before I noticed changes. He wasn't on any other supps or diet

at that time, just the aloe. His attention was much better, and his

eye contact improved greatly. A friend has had her son it for a few

years, and still sees some regression if she removes it. Otherwise,

he appears mostly recovered. I give mine(7yo, 50lb, PDD/NOS) 2 tsp

once a day.

I'm also giving him CLO, Pro bio gold, vit A, C, E, zinc, milk

thistle, and chelating with ALA (1st round only).

Laurie

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> Hopefully it was a Doctor's Data or Great Plains hair test,

otherwise <BR>

> you'll have to repeat it.<BR>

>

> Yes, it was sent to Doctor's Data.

It also has to be the hair element profile, not the toxic element

profile. If you get the toxic profile back, have the doc call the lab

IMMEDIATELY and run a hair element profile as well - they usually keep

the prepared sample for a while. They will no doubt charge for this

unless the doctor's office does a lot of fast talking.

> > Anyway, since the NDF seems to be some type of chelator, <BR>

> <BR>

> nope.<BR>

>

> Hmmm....that was the reason stated for using the drops.

I am aware that many MD's have some interesting views on chemistry. I

apologize for all chemists that we didn't crack the whip harder over

pre-meds so they knew what they were doing.

Andy. . . .. . .

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> > Hi--

> >

> > My 4.4 year-old son was diagnosed in late January as PDD-NOS. We

> are

> > currently GF/CF/SF, and we have seen some improvements in terms

of

> > behavior and ability to grasp concepts.

> >

> > We have started seeing a former DAN! doctor (just recently his

name

> > disappeared from the list...I don't know why yet),

>

> Call him or ARI and ask. I'd be quite curious to know how they

> maintain their list.

>

> > and he has recommended

> > several supplements. One of those was Super Nu-Thera, but we saw

> > tremendous regression (actually, he ended up worse than he had

ever

> been

> > before), so we cut that and went with a B6 powder that I put in

> foods.

> > The doctor recommended Ambrotose, but that made my son pee

himself

> > several times throughout the day (we challenged twice and the

> reaction

> > was always the same). So we cut that. Currently he is on Trans

> Factor

> > Kids (2x day), flax seed meal (~1 tsp. a day if I can hide it),

> > acidophilus wafers (2x day), and B6 (200 mg sprinkled in foods).

> >

> > At our appointment at the end of last week, the doctor

recommended

> that

> > we add aloe (liquid that can be put in his juice) and carnosine

(I

> found

> > a capsule I can separate and put in food)...he had his first dose

of

> the

> > aloe today, and I'm waiting to see what type of reaction (if any)

> that

> > elicits before I try the carnosine.

> >

> > Another recommendation was NDF drops (Nanocolloidal Detox

Factor).

> The

> > only information I can find on this is provided by vested

interests

> who

> > are selling the product and I'm hoping there is some information

> here or

> > somebody could guide me to other information.

>

> Well, based on MY read of the information provided by the vested

> interests, the stuff doesn't work.

WOULD YOU PLEASE ELABORATE YOUR COMMENT ABOUT NDF?

>

> > We just had my son's hair

> > taken for a heavy metals test...this is a new area to us, and I'm

> > honestly not too sure what to expect.

>

> Hopefully it was a Doctor's Data or Great Plains hair test,

otherwise

> you'll have to repeat it.

>

> See

>

> /files/HOW_TO_hair_test

>

> for how to interpret it.

>

> > Anyway, since the NDF seems to be some type of chelator,

>

> nope.

>

> > but not one I've

> > seen mentioned on any of the listserves I frequent, I'm holding

off

> on

> > that until I have some test results (which I will be sure to

share

> to get

> > some educated input as I educate myself).

> >

> > From what I've told you, does anybody have any recommendations or

> ideas

> > for what I could be doing either in terms of supplements

>

> vitamin C 3 or 4 times a day, 10,000 IU a day of vitamin A.

>

> >or reading that

> > would help me? I would appreciate input. I have been reading

> messages

> > for a few days, and you seem quite knowledgable about areas that

are

> > still very gray to me

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  • 3 years later...

Good morning, group. I have a question? How can I get my SSd

approved when I can no longer see the doctors? I do not qualify for

medical assistance, even with SSD pending. (I have been denied 4

times over 4 years) This whole damm disease has cost me the house we

used to own, a job that I loved and was well paid at, and most of my

friends. You would think that at some point the judges, etc. would

all agree that there is no way I could be faking this for so long.

Why would I want to? I loved my job, I loved being active with my

kids and grandkids. They keep telling me " You're only 38. You're too

young to be disabled. You can still work a 12 hour day without a

problem " . Excuse me, but wouldn't I be the one to know if it is a

problem or not? (Sorry-I said that at the hearing-it didnt help at

all) I have had to stop going to the doctor because the bills have

gotten outragous. My physical therapy was 300 bux per session, 5

sessions per week. Where was I supposed to come up with that kind of

cash? My medical assisstance was revoked when I got denied, so they

stopped paying for anything. Boy was I shocked by those bills. The

15 minute appt with the rheumatologist? 465 bux. Twice a month with

her, too. My own doctor was costing me over 100 a week, and the

psychologist was getting out of hand, too. That was before I bought a

single prescription! So anyway, I stopped going to any of them. Now

I have to go back, whether I can afford it or not. I still have no

insurance, and can't get any. I don't qualify for any of the

low-income programs-my husbands annual income is over by about 15.00.

We can barely keep food on the table right now, and I am about to

add to the bills again by going to doctors. What can I do to get

approved? I can't keep adding to the debt load just to generate more

paperwork that they stupid hearing judge never even looks at. I am

running out of options. I have even tried to go back to work--what a

nightmare that turned out to be. I didn't last 2 weeks. I just can't

keep up with the rest of the world anymore. If I don't do something

soon, I think my head will explode from worrying. And as if all this

isn't bad enough, I think my teenage son has fibro. He will be seeing

a dr for evaluation soon, but will not take any meds. PA law says he

doesnt have too, so he won't. He's been medication dependant his

whole life, so I kind of understand where he is coming from.) If

anyone has any suggestions as to what else I can do to get my SSD

approved, please email me. I am literally at the end of my rope.

Lona

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" Will he ever get off the oils "

Good question Pam. I am not sure what the longest time a child has been using

these supplements. Everyone talks about regression when they stop. Can any long

time users comment?

I read somewhere ages ago that the types of fish oils change as a child

develops. It said something like, but don't quote me, More EFA up to 7 and more

DHA after. But these were for 'normal' kids. Given ours are delayed with

language development it would make sense that they need the EFA's more, even

after age 7.

It also seems that everyone, with a western diet maybe, should be using omega

oils as we seemed to have an imbalance or deficit. So maybe by the time our

children are grown-up it will be something that we all take anyway, bit like

extra vits in our cereals. BTW my husband was saying he read somewhere that

Omega oils in bread was such a waste of time as 50% was lost and you needed so

much of it to make a difference. So, yes, perhaps the only way will be capsules

of the oil.

I'd like to hear from those that have been using it for many years and there

comments.

Regards

UK Mummy to 8 and Rory 6, with verbal dyspraxia, both deaf with CI.

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