Quest for info...

[Guest guest]

HI, I am new to the raw dairy thing. I have one milk goat, a nubian. We

were told to pasturize and also not to. Which is better? If you

pasturize what temp and for how long. What type of container do you

use? We have been told so many different things, (some very weird

things) and I'm just trying to get the pros and cons of both ways.

Please email me off list, so as not to tie it up with so many replies.

Thank you,

le

chells@...

[Guest guest]

Hi le,

Well, obviously, since this is a pro-raw dairy group, you are

going to get a one-sided response here. DO NOT PASTEURIZE

that beautiful milk. It ruins it. Basically, anything above a

temperature that your hands can stand starts to denature the

enzymes in the milk, which means--undigestable. The lactase,

the lipase, the protease, all these begin to break up and be

destroyed at higher temps. The heat-sensitive vitamins begin

to be lost as well, like Vit. C. What you are left with is a product

that does not resemble it's original very well and is greatly reduced

in nutritional value.

Another thing that is lost through pasteurization is the immune

system of the milk. Raw milk contains it's own immune system,

consisting primarily of components such as nisin, lactoferrin,

lactoperoxidase and ti02. These are very important components

of milk, as they help keep the pathogens at bay, should they get

into the milk. Grass fed milk has the highest levels of these systems.

Grain fed milk has the lowest. The heat of pasteurization also destroys

the good bacteria in the milk, like acidophillus and lactobacillus.

The amount of good bacteria in milk determines how much

competition there is for the lactose in the milk (bacteria food--a

sugar), and if the good bacteria are killed off by heat, the baddies,

if they get in, can go wild! It's like having weeds in your lawn or not.

If you have a good stand of grass (good bacteria) in your lawn, you

will have a strong lawn that squeezes out the weeds (baddies) from

sheer competition. If your lawn is weak, then the bad weeds can

proliferate.

Make sense? Do not pasteurize that treasure you have. Keep it clean

and drink it raw!

D.

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> HI, I am new to the raw dairy thing. I have one milk goat, a nubian. We

> were told to pasturize and also not to. Which is better? If you

> pasturize what temp and for how long. What type of container do you

> use? We have been told so many different things, (some very weird

> things) and I'm just trying to get the pros and cons of both ways.

> Please email me off list, so as not to tie it up with so many replies.

> Thank you,

> le

> chells@...

>

[Guest guest]

Hi le, summed it up pretty good, but if you want more info look

up www.realmilk.org . I also recommend you read " The Untold Story of Milk "

by Ron Scmidt as it will answer most of your questions.

Ray,

NZ

[Guest guest]

Hi Ray, yep summed it up good. Believe it or not I still have had people off this list tell me to pasturize, which never made since to me, because once it's pasturized it's no longer raw... Anyway, thanks to everyone for the advice and the book recommendations. I'm not pasturizing, to heck with what anyone else says.

Thanks again,

le WA - USA

-------------- Original message -------------- Hi le, summed it up pretty good, but if you want more info look up www.realmilk.org . I also recommend you read "The Untold Story of Milk" by Ron Scmidt as it will answer most of your questions.Ray,NZ